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gurey25 wrote:
sahal80 wrote:Call it what ever you like but your shaping into our sphere! That is a fact!
How do you see further movement towards somalia?
this is as far as we can move, any further and it will destabalize the SL government and hurt chances of a reelection.
Kulmiye is guaranteed a re election why give this up?
sahal80 wrote:two countries are in favor of cooperation that ends into a unity or a north-south power sharing system in somalia.
true but they are not viable options because somaliland will not accept a subordinate position and certain clans are deathly against a north -south power sharing system because it will relegate them to a lower position of power politically.
Siilanyo can easily sell a north-south power sharing system to his people and you can get a united somalia overnight, but this will never be accepted by the south.
Dam jadid have weakened the southren regions so far so if this pm goes they will appoint an amiin/trusted pm who will serve till the end of the talks. If the both sides agreed on this in an international backed conference, the north will have a non appointed pm forever will be elected or selected in the north.
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sahal80 wrote:Dam jadid have weakened the southren regions so far so if this pm goes they will appoint an amiin/trusted pm who will serve till the end of the talks. If the both sides agreed on this in an international backed conference, the north will have a non appointed pm forever will be elected or selected in the north.
thats too optimistic you cannot go against a large part of your populations wishes, damuljadid may not survive long.
if you pull this miracle off, union is a distinct possibility.
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gurey25 wrote:
sahal80 wrote:Dam jadid have weakened the southren regions so far so if this pm goes they will appoint an amiin/trusted pm who will serve till the end of the talks. If the both sides agreed on this in an international backed conference, the north will have a non appointed pm forever will be elected or selected in the north.
thats too optimistic you cannot go against a large part of your populations wishes, damuljadid may not survive long.
if you pull this miracle off, union is a distinct possibility.
Its a working political equation and both america and uk are backing it

The southreners regardless of their clans will have the president regardless of his clan, democracy is the rule.

This is actually one of the things that the world backs the dam jadid govt, its one of their biggest cards to stay in the power with this new vision...

Yesterday the president has met the IC and besides the financial things they talked about the implementation of the vision 2016

This includes the talks with somaliland.
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but can you resist darood opposition?
can you keep your party together and continue ruling into 2016?

i know its a project pushed by the UK and the US has signed off on it, the qataris and UAE are behind it too.
It is far easier to circumvent Somali land extremists that want zero links to xamar than it is to circumvent darood opposition from within your own government.

its too optimistic.
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gurey25 wrote:but can you resist darood opposition?
can you keep your party together and continue ruling into 2016?

i know its a project pushed by the UK and the US has signed off on it, the qataris and UAE are behind it too.
It is far easier to circumvent Somali land extremists that want zero links to xamar than it is to circumvent darood opposition from within your own government.

its too optimistic.
Yeah the two sides are not the same, your president can even arrest your speaker!

Having said that, there is no much clan rules out of the SFG, depends on who leads it and what's their-the prez and pm- policy

Before there was a oneness of decision but at the moment there is a power struggle inside the govt and this is why somaliland has postponed the talks again till next year.

If the current pm reappears there could be a problem with his new agenda and may change the old arrangements and there won't be a motion for the next 6 months.

Generally the west, arabs, djibouti want this. This is the only way somalia can unite.

Dam jadid themselves are not rushing this, they want to play this card in their last year.
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