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HusseinHassan wrote:
i thought your excuse/reason was due to siyad barre's regime?
many regions in somalia was never developed since 1960. you can't honestly think you can use that as an excuse, do you?

It's not even about the developments because thats just one of the many factors that lead to dissatisfaction and a sense of betrayal. Somaliland and Somalia united in the 60's as two equal countries. They idea was to split everything between Somaliland and Somalia for instance, the parliament, President & PM position etc. However that didn't happen because Somaliland become a province of Somalia. Thats why there a was an attempted coup in 1961. When Siyaad Barre took over people felt that things would change and it did for a while but after the 77 war, the neoptism, the corruption and how he was targeting Isaaq businessmen specifically lead to frustration and dissatisfaction once again hence the establishment of SNM in 1981.

Meyle,

The Milatary and the corruption focked everybody. We didn't have 1 secondary School in the entire Cadaado district. 1/4 a million Saleebaan didn't have secondary education. They focked up anyone that piss them off. They almost exterminated majeerteen. They also threatened to extinct Saleebaan when we tried to form Jamhad. You therefore don't have a reason to b*itch whirn alone. Wixii dhacay way dheceen. The milatary has been toppled. All its leaders are either exiled or died. It seems like you are just using the Burco war as an excusse.

Somalia will not be divided into peaces. Whether you claimed Queen britain gave you shit or not. Hada British maxukumo Somalia. Whether you joined us or not, hada we are stuck together. Beesha dir gets Foreign affairs ministers.

grandpakhalif wrote:

Meyle wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:Well if they dont return Awdal and Sool Sanaag and Cayn it will be war, otherwise it would be a wise choice for them to seperate with their triangle, not one shit will be given in south somalia.

Awdal is majority pro Somaliland, I would say 85% and if you didn't know half of Sanaag belongs to Isaaq and 1/3 of Sool belongs to Isaaq not to mention the pro SL Dhulbahante and Warsangeli in those region.


All in all we have 90-95% of Somaliland on lock.


Worry about Gedo and the 6 region state thats being created.

The only place where Eydoor settles in Sanaag is in Cerigaavo and Maydh, the rest belongs to old Somalia, also Awdal and her people have always been pro-Somalia, especially now that their mastermind Riyaale has stepped down, they are feeling ma torginalized under the Eydoor mafia organized ictiraaf fantasy. Their fate is tied to Somalia and they have proven loyal to Somalia in the past.

What about Xiis, Ceelafweyn, Garadag, Gudmo biyocas, Midisho etc. ?


Awdal is pro Somaliland and Somaliland was even re-created during the Borama conference in 1993. You also have pro SL Dhulbahante and pro SL Warsangeli, so the reality is we control 90-95% of our territory while your government doesn't control shit.


Somalia ie former Somalia Italiana is Raas Caseyr to Raas Kaambooni. Somaliland excluded.

Sheikh Mustafa in action miinadiisa caadi maaaha

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GameChanger wrote:

Meyle wrote:

When Somaliland and Somalia united in the 60's the idea was to create a state (Somali republic) made up by two equal parts, however that never happened because of political greed which lead to economic inequality. No developments in our regions etc. So there's no way we'll fall for the same deception and manipulation (Somalinimo) by uniting with Somalia.

There's a Somali proverb; Mar i dage Alle ha dago, mar labaad i dagase anaa is dagay.

Fool me once...

you have some good points there, but don't you think that having a auto-state would be better. because you are doing the same to 3 other different qabiils in your area. you wanna force yourself on them, and find it unjust that the southerns should force themselves on you?

Prior to independence there was no connection between waqooyi and koonfur. Southerners can't force themselves on us and majority of the clans in Somaliland are pro Somaliland, not to mention that Isaaq is majority in SL, so we'll always have the last word.

Sheikh Mustafa wrote:Meyle,

The Milatary and the corruption focked everybody. We didn't have 1 secondary School in the entire Cadaado district. 1/4 a million Saleebaan didn't have secondary education. They focked up anyone that piss them off. They almost exterminated majeerteen. They also threatened to extinct Saleebaan when we tried to form Jamhad. You therefore don't have a reason to b*itch whirn alone. Wixii dhacay way dheceen. The milatary has been toppled. All its leaders are either exiled or died. It seems like you are just using the Burco war as an excusse.

Somalia will not be divided into peaces. Whether you claimed Queen britain gave you shit or not. Hada British maxukumo Somalia. Whether you joined us or not, hada we are stuck together. Beesha dir gets Foreign affairs ministers.

Meyle wrote:

HusseinHassan wrote:
i thought your excuse/reason was due to siyad barre's regime?
many regions in somalia was never developed since 1960. you can't honestly think you can use that as an excuse, do you?

It's not even about the developments because thats just one of the many factors that lead to dissatisfaction and a sense of betrayal. Somaliland and Somalia united in the 60's as two equal countries. They idea was to split everything between Somaliland and Somalia for instance, the parliament, President & PM position etc. However that didn't happen because Somaliland become a province of Somalia. Thats why there a was an attempted coup in 1961. When Siyaad Barre took over people felt that things would change and it did for a while but after the 77 war, the neoptism, the corruption and how he was targeting Isaaq businessmen specifically lead to frustration and dissatisfaction once again hence the establishment of SNM in 1981.

you realized you can't use the 'development' excuse because many regions both in the south, central and north are underdeveloped since 1960. now, you want to use the siyad barre regime excuse as expected, but you forgot one thing, the kacaan consisted of every somali tribe. your own leaders (rayaale, siilaanyo) were part of it. the entire snm leaders were ex-kacaan officials since 1969 up to the 1980s. not to mention, the kacaan regime ended in 1991, so that excuse can't be used.

your third excuse would be, "we were targeted". but, the majeerteen claim it too. the gadabursi, warsans and dhulos would also claim that they too were targeted by snm rebels in retaliation to government offensives during the 80s. everyone is a victim and everyone is a suspect.

Meyle wrote:Prior to independence there was no connection between waqooyi and koonfur. Southerners can't force themselves on us and majority of the clans in Somaliland are pro Somaliland, not to mention that Isaaq is majority in SL, so we'll always have the last word.

you're a habarjeclo. you having no connections to the south is understandable, but don't try to include dhulos and warsangeli into your fold. these two niggas got connections from bari all the way to jubada hoose.

Even HG is a Victim of the 2006 Ethiopian war because we were targeted as a tribe and our entire Districts bombed. That is why you fled to Ceelasha biyaha. Can we Claim Victims?

Meyle wrote:

GameChanger wrote:

Meyle wrote:

When Somaliland and Somalia united in the 60's the idea was to create a state (Somali republic) made up by two equal parts, however that never happened because of political greed which lead to economic inequality. No developments in our regions etc. So there's no way we'll fall for the same deception and manipulation (Somalinimo) by uniting with Somalia.

There's a Somali proverb; Mar i dage Alle ha dago, mar labaad i dagase anaa is dagay.

Fool me once...

you have some good points there, but don't you think that having a auto-state would be better. because you are doing the same to 3 other different qabiils in your area. you wanna force yourself on them, and find it unjust that the southerns should force themselves on you?

Prior to independence there was no connection between waqooyi and koonfur. Southerners can't force themselves on us and majority of the clans in Somaliland are pro Somaliland, not to mention that Isaaq is majority in SL, so we'll always have the last word.

minority guda iyo dhulos support the separation.

These Eydoors are a bunch of cry babies, in 1991 the Marehan v the whole Mogadishu USC horde, we lost a lot of relatives yet you don't see us whining and claiming seperatism. Real men fight and drink shah together the next day.

Re-read my post. It was political greed and the betrayal that lead to the attempted coup in 1961. That started the aspirations of becoming a seperate state. If the generals that lead that coup were successful, Somaliland would've been a seperate country by 1961 because there's no official documents regarding the unification process however the coup failed.

As my previous post states the neoptism and corruption after 1977-78 war and MSB targetting Isaaq businessmen specifically lead to dissatisfaction and once again the aspirations of becoming a seperate state lead to the establishment of SNM.

Sheikh Mustafa wrote:Even HG is a Victim of the 2006 Ethiopian war because we were targeted as a tribe and our entire Districts bombed. That is why you fled to Ceelasha biyaha. Can we Claim Victims?

Yaa Sheikh you misspoke, it is hard to pretend

HusseinHassan wrote:

Meyle wrote:Prior to independence there was no connection between waqooyi and koonfur. Southerners can't force themselves on us and majority of the clans in Somaliland are pro Somaliland, not to mention that Isaaq is majority in SL, so we'll always have the last word.

you're a habarjeclo. you having no connections to the south is understandable, but don't try to include dhulos and warsangeli into your fold. these two niggas got connections from bari all the way to jubada hoose.

Bari is not south and the first Dhulbahante and Warsangelis arrived in Jubboyinka with the British just like the Isaaq because those regions were part of British east Africa before it was sold off to the Italians.


There was no connection, as in northern clans and southern clans intermarrying, their animal sharing the same grazing land etc.