Somali Historians come in including you James Dahl

[Basra-]

Fattie,

They might haven't mentioned the word Somalis many times or at all, but they mentioned East Africa. Also back then Somalis were known as Berbers so who can deny those Berbers are Somalis too?

Stick to your English novels and time pieces, you have no use to political and military history.

Ximaan@Looool


u know I love it when u get all ad hominem, usually a last resort when defeated in debate or brains.

[XimanJaale]

You must be living in a Victorian dream, and neither did u have upper hand with my debate. All you did was ludicrously guess stuff with your fat brain.

[Basra-]

You must be living in a Victorian dream, and neither did u have upper hand with my debate. All you did was ludicrously guess stuff with your fat brain.

Ximaan dear loooool u r hilarious. Imagine if 'my guessings' scares u, what If I actually did my homework, read the 'sources' and used my analytical power brain>? I think u would have a fit!

[XimanJaale]

Nutty Professor aka fatty,

I will have more than a fit but an orgasm by then your analysis and thinking will lead you to accept my conclusion and findings.

[Basra-]

Nutty Professor aka fatty,

I will have more than a fit but an orgasm by then your analysis and thinking will lead you to accept my conclusion and findings.

Touché

[James Dahl]

Yes the people of Somalia in ancient times were the Berbera, though we know next to nothing about them sadly

[SahanGalbeed]

Have some shame and stop claiming evrything and everybody under the sun .The madness of this tribe knows no limit

[BlackVelvet]

At least, we know, when long founding father "Darood" existed. (since year 704)

As per the Georgian calendar or the Islamic one?

[Basra-]

Jas

I am guessing Georgian calendar, judging from the English man who wrote this 'sources'!

[Grant]

Mapping the Berber Gene:

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/E1b1b1_Y-DNA.htm

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... -DNA.shtml

[BlackVelvet]

Basra which sources? I read that the famous suufi Sheikh Ismail Al Jaberti (father of Darood) died in the 1400s and is buried in Yemen.

Mapping the Berber Gene:

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/E1b1b1_Y-DNA.htm

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... -DNA.shtml

Geeljires travelled far and wide

[Meyle]

Mapping the Berber Gene:

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/E1b1b1_Y-DNA.htm

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... -DNA.shtml

That haplogroup originated in HOA despite what you say to the contrary. I've seen you claim many times on this forum that this haplogroup originated in North Africa which is not true.

[BlackVelvet]

Mapping the Berber Gene:

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/E1b1b1_Y-DNA.htm

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... -DNA.shtml

That haplogroup originated in HOA despite what you say to the contrary. I've seen you claim many times on this forum that this haplogroup originated in North Africa which is not true.

Bahalka aqri kowdi nooh

Time of origin:

+ 20 kya

Place of origin:

Horn of Africa

[Meyle]

The capital and the seat of their kingdom is modern day Berbera

[Grant]

Meyle,

It helps to be able to read:

"Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages.

The highest genetic diversity of haplogroup E1b1b is observed in Northeast Africa, especially in Ethiopia and Somalia, which also have the monopoly of older and rarer branches like M281, V6 or V92. Ethiopians and Somalians belong mostly to the V22 and V32 (downstream of V12) subclades, but possess also a minority of M81, M123 and V42 subclades. Among the main subclades of E1b1b only V13 and V65 are absent from the Horn of Africa, and probably originated in northern Africa (V65) or the southern Levant (V13).

Haplogroup E1b1b may well have been associated with the earliest development of Neolithic lifestyle and the advent of agriculture, which is so far believed to have arisen in the Fertile Crescent, but could have developed earlier in parts of Northeast Africa now covered by the Sahara desert. Agriculture spread from the Near East to Europe, at first mostly ovicaprid and cattle herders. E1b1b men (accompanied by G2a, J and T men) appear to have been associated at least with the diffusion of Neolithic painted pottery from the Levant to the Balkans (Thessalian Neolithic), and with the Cardium Pottery culture (5000-1500 BCE) in the Western Mediterranean. The only concrete evidence for this at the moment is the presence of the E-V13 subclade, commonest in the southern Balkans today, at a 7000-year old Neolithic site in north-east Spain, which was tested by Lacan et al (2011). The African origin of some Neolithic cattle was confirmed by Decker et al (2013), who reported that Iberian and Italian cattle possess introgression from African taurine."