No to Ictiraaf

[original dervish]

If you need recognition...and believe it's unlikely to happen....what is your plan B......keep the status quo or pursue some sort of autonomous status?

[STARKAST]

I'm proud of you guys you've come to the realization that you are indeed Somalis and the world knows this best.

[Warabaha]

I'm proud of you guys you've come to the realization that you are indeed Somalis and the world knows this best.

maJAREERten sub clan of darood is not somali, they are oromo who can speak somali

[ZubeirAwal]

Why do we need these atheistic organizations to cast the spell of our existence when we already determine our existence without their consent? Ictiraaf is hypocritical of a country that bears the La Ilaha Ilallah Muhammadur Rasulalah, I'm not a unionist, but recognition is not the way forward. And bi'idnillah it won't happen.

I'm inclined to agree with you on the non-recognition stance ....at least until we are self sufficient.

btw ...work on getting yourself back home within the next 10 years

That is what I'm working towards bro, my future is in the motherland.

[STARKAST]

Never trust a Reer Miyi HJ with anything professional such as attaining recognition for anything.
Its actually quite a shame you guys have come to this point in declaring your inability to gain recognition (in public) and then mask if with these weak ideals such as self sufficiency.

Ictiraaf is the only way the world will not associate you with Somalis have you forgotten this ? Year by year, you lose more Xamar gains more......

[BigBreak]

Ictiraaf is the only way the world will not associate you with Somalis have you forgotten this ? Year by year, you lose more Xamar gains more......

maybe this can the case for puntland but not since puntland will either have to fully submit under a strong xamar (led by HAG ofcourse) or just secede. there's no other choice believe me!