Hassan sheikh feeling the heat from outside

[Substance]

PO, saaxiib you know im telling the truth, the opposition against the man started when he was in office less than 48 hours, what does that tell you?

I welcome Hassan sheikh when he was appointed and I still support him as the president altough I believe he needs to step aside since there are greater things at stake here. You just support him because of qabil reason and amplying your narrow world unto my positions. It don't work like that. Sxb I'm beyond that and you know it. So let's stop pretending.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Substance,

The exact same thing was said about Sheikh shariif his first year too............



PO,

I understand where you are coming from however HSM just sacked 800 soldiers and officers for neglecting their daily duties. All im saying is patience is a virtue lets not be quick to judge afterall he's only been in office for a year and half.

[sahal80]

Sahal: It was never about person or personality for me but policy and this what Im against. Not Hassan sheikh or his qabiil or anything. If I see national policy thats working I will support it but this is not case of today, and if simpleminded forumers cant understand my position, then its not my problem.
History will judge if dam jadiid will make Somalia a strong state, I have my doubts because of their prior corrupt action, they are no different then those who came before them and enriched themself only in the name of Somalia.

I understand you have changed because of what you may think they are wrongs/bad policies he has committed them but except the hypocrites all the people who really care about the govt don't get happy about this, such threads are made by the puntlanders...

I don't say this to a people like typhon for he was pro-jubbaland all his time.

The lady your talking about has one big problem wich is that she doesn't have one single document or record as a proof, its all about her good credibilty wich has caused some doubts but yet there is no proof!

All the international funds for somalia are on their way and nothing like your thread will happen.

There is a Emirate now and thanks for turkey... I guess soon we will hear a turkish statement againist all this; somalia and turkey are ruled by the same political party, any problems will get sorted out via the international organization-qatar-

Even iran wants to support but its the govt who is avoiding. Too much choices there.

[original dervish]

Sahal.......are you familiar with the kids party game called musical chairs?

Warsheikh....I was against Hassan Sheikh within five minutes of him taking "office".
I could never in all conscience support a "president" whom came to "power" on the back of Qatari bribe money.

Sub/Po....I was never taken in by all the brouhaha that surrounded Hassan Sheikh.
At least now you can see him for what he is.....a discredited, incompetent & corrupt politician.

Ps Sahal sxb....you made my night with...."the money is on it's way"

[sahal80]

OD

Even if you don't believe that there is no problem now and it depends how govt acts quicly to receive all these millions it doesn't reach to the political level

He is invited to the white house

Uk is backing him.

The money we will get it from the arabs-arab conference on somalia...soon-

Sorted it out!.

[Substance]

Sahal:

Its true there is no proof but its written on the wall. There many reports confirming the corrupt nature of Damul jadiid. Even that case about former pm Shirdoon. The regime is corrupt to the core.

I dont know this typhoon character but I was allways pro Jubbaland and still am. Don't confuse not supporting Kenyan agents for being against jubbaland. It's something that predates KDF invasion and will outlive it.

We shall see about those international funds you claim are coming, if they come it will surely come at a price for Hassan sheikh and finnally he might try to do his duties.


OD: It's allways good to give benefit of doubt but Hassan sheikh have been a big dissapoint, in the eyes of the nation.

[GenkinMaru]

OD
the money we will get it from the arabs-arab conference on somalia...soon-
Sorted it out!.

Why not just rely on God and yourself. No more handouts but hard work!!

[original dervish]

The only thing "sorted out", is the gravy train at the expense of millions of Somali's.
PS So are the Arabs are your new best friends?
What happened to the Americans, Chinese, Italians, Egyptians, Djiboutiennes..........?

Substance....there's an old proverb, (perhaps somebody knows the Somali version).
"It's an ill wind that blows nobody good".
The ill wind in this case was the Qatari money that bought him the "presidency".
The rest is self explanatory.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Warsheikh....I was against Hassan Sheikh within five minutes of him taking "office".
I could never in all conscience support a president who is hawiye.

[original dervish]

Very good.

[Hodan94]

OD stop moaning, u belong to sl

even ask galaydh, he was reconsidering his stance on mogadishu.. giving an open message to khatumo.
I saw an interview last night. U should do the same.

[sahal80]

Sahal:

Its true there is no proof but its written on the wall. There many reports confirming the corrupt nature of Damul jadiid. Even that case about former pm Shirdoon. The regime is corrupt to the core.

I dont know this typhoon character but I was allways pro Jubbaland and still am. Don't confuse not supporting Kenyan agents for being against jubbaland. It's something that predates KDF invasion and will outlive it.

We shall see about those international funds you claim are coming, if they come it will surely come at a price for Hassan sheikh and finnally he might try to do his duties.


OD: It's allways good to give benefit of doubt but Hassan sheikh have been a big dissapoint, in the eyes of the nation.

Jubbaland=ahmed madobe, gandhi and their clans project backed by kenya, FACTS!!.

Right now some central groups have suggested to let another war happen after kenya was removed so they can share the revenues but the govt is not interesting in this. I'm out.

[Substance]

This is why I can't take you seriously as fellow analysist or political observer.

[sahal80]

This is why I can't take you seriously as fellow analysist or political observer.

I'm. I can show you a wikki leaks link that dates back 2009 about creating a federal jubbaland region and be a buffer zone can you show me any link from your own circles that dates back before that?

Your circles had no even federal clues back then and were attacking federalism just like many of us do nowadays but after this project has gone through the IGAD thanks to the kenyan and ethiopian ethnic somali officials some of you have JOINED it. That is the difference!. Every body can deny what he want but the FACTS will stay FACTS!.

[Substance]

Without federalism or with it, Jubbaland was intended to be a reality. Your wiki sources are from Kenya, and their planes for this region. Jubbaland as a somali concept is much older then your 2009 wiki leaks. This is basic knowledge but you don't know this because you are not from the region.