Reality of Hiiraan

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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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looolz. :lol:
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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TheblueNwhite wrote:
GeoSeven wrote:Nerdfresh, a troll dedicated to trolling about Hawaadle :lol:

Entertain me.

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lol. This guy is a joke. Ujeejeen iyo Xawaadle are not on good terms, he thinks they are allies. Jijeele is allied with Xawaadle. He doesn't even know his stuff. Jaqjaqle.com.
I think it's Minneapolis Mayor/ Somali Transporter :lol:
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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original dervish wrote:Sahal sxb.....why are you attacking me?
Nerdfresh has a different view on the situation in Hiiraan.....I think he deserves to be heard...this is snet not North Korea.

If your so convinced Hiiraan is mostly Hawadle.....why are you so threatened by Nerdfresh' posts.
PS Why are you denying Hassan Sheikh has a soft spot for his reer abti?
Next you'll be telling us the sea is not really salty....just bitter. :lol:

I have seen how you was jumping up and down in oxy thread about kismayo lol

This is you qabilist OD you care about your clans interests but are here for fitna!

You know me I don't go down to the clan shyt I stay on the politics though I know the detest between your own clan and that in garowe I never mentioned your clan by name.

Every body can talk about the regional administrations and their relations with the center or their place in federalism but no any respected person and progressive somali would go fo a futher clan shyt

This guy is miskiin new to the place and doesn't know your dirty agenda, the closest friend of mine in here is Event who is sacad HG

To stop your excuses I will give you a little info about this region and its people


Gugundhabe are the ogaadeen of hawiye, they are scattered from harar to hiiraan to NFD

Myths say their original home is the ogaden of today, ogaadeens are from waqooyi galbeed and the hawd region

Because they are a scattered clan, hiiraan cis familiar with beesha dhexe hawadle, this is a fact. Look at every town look at baladweyne its in the heart of hawadle but for the others its just their regional capital

This is jajeele evey village or town in this list except baladweyne is in the ethiopian, hiiraan, bakool borders or inside kilinka or inside bakool and other regions

"Jijeele
Deegaanada ugu caansan oo eey beeshu dagtaa waxaa ka mid ah
Baladweyne magaal madaxda gobalka hiiraa
Buurhakaba ,Bay
Diinsoor,Bay
Ceelbardo,Bakool
Mubaarak,Sh/Hoose
farlibaax
Basro,sh.dhexe
Quracjoome
Feerfeer
Mustaxiil
Qalaafe
abeesaale
caagsibiri
Ceel idaad
Deefow
Doonkudle
Quracle
Baar dhuyac
Xaaji nuur
Qajaaqur
Maroodile
burfiiq
haar cadey."

That is his clan forget the rest he keep posting like murule, degodia who don't have one single subclan in hiiraan!.
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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sahal80 wrote:
original dervish wrote:Sahal sxb.....why are you attacking me?
Nerdfresh has a different view on the situation in Hiiraan.....I think he deserves to be heard...this is snet not North Korea.

If your so convinced Hiiraan is mostly Hawadle.....why are you so threatened by Nerdfresh' posts.
PS Why are you denying Hassan Sheikh has a soft spot for his reer abti?
Next you'll be telling us the sea is not really salty....just bitter. :lol:

I have seen how you was jumping up and down in oxy thread about kismayo lol

This is you qabilist OD you care about your clans interests but are here for fitna!

You know me I don't go down to the clan shyt I stay on the politics though I know the detest between your own clan and that in garowe I never mentioned your clan by name.

Every body can talk about the regional administrations and their relations with the center or their place in federalism but no any respected person and progressive somali will not go futher in the clan problems.

This guy is miskiin new to the place and doesn't know your dirty agenda, closest friend of mine in here is Event who is sacad HG

To stop your excuses I will give a little info about this region and its people


Gugundhabe are the ogaadeen of hawiye, they live in from harar to hiiraan to NFD

Myths say their original home is the ogaden of today, ogaadeens are from waqooyi galbeed and the hawd region

Because they are a scattered clan, hiiraan can be said a hawadle land, this is fact. Look at every town look at baladweyne its in the heart of hawadle but for the others its just their regional capital

This is jajeele evey village or town in this list except baladweyne is in the ethiopian, hiiraan, bakool borders or inside kilinka or inside bakool and other regions

"Jijeele
Deegaanada ugu caansan oo eey beeshu dagtaa waxaa ka mid ah
Baladweyne magaal madaxda gobalka hiiraa
Buurhakaba ,Bay
Diinsoor,Bay
Ceelbardo,Bakool
Mubaarak,Sh/Hoose
farlibaax
Basro,sh.dhexe
Quracjoome
Feerfeer
Mustaxiil
Qalaafe
abeesaale
caagsibiri
Ceel idaad
Deefow
Doonkudle
Quracle
Baar dhuyac
Xaaji nuur
Qajaaqur
Maroodile
burfiiq
haar cadey."

That is his clan forget the rest like murule, degodia who don't have one single subclan in hiiraan!..
Thanks akhie sahal, you too are my close friend in this place Snet :up: ,......and as for OD, everyone knows he's an reticent qabilist that only fools the gullible one's!
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Hiiraan demographics 101.


Beledweyn: 75% Gugundhabe ( Jajeele,baadhicade, Galjeceel) 15% xawaadle, 10% udeejen.

Jalalaqsi: Gugundhabe majority

Buqaqable: Gaaljecel

Matabaan: Habar gidir,ceyr

Shaw: Gaaljecel mainly, yabar colofow

Halgan: Gaaljecel

Maxaas: 70% xawaadle, 20 % Gugundhabe, 10% dir

Farlibaax: Jajeele

ceel cadde: shared by xawaadle and gugundhabe

Jawiil: Udejeen.


Its very funny some people here saying xawaadle is majority in Hiiraan. I know the region very well as i was working for UNHCR in beledweyne back in 2009.
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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CALICAATO, you are right 100%

Look who came for the defense of Sahal.

A Leelkase (I'm assuming considering since you were protecting Leelkase yesterday to a guy who insulted Leelkase). Leelkase claim Hawadle as Tanade.
A Mudulood. (Masters of Hawadle)
A Hawadle (same qabiil as Sahal)

Sahal I read the archives. You hate Gaaljecel. You said Gaaljecel should stay in their forest and Hawadle doesn't need to talk to Gaaljecel. So don't act like you care about Hiiraan clans. You hate them. 6th post in that link confirms your hatred

viewtopic.php?f=290&t=308603

Bulobarde and Jalalaqsi is in the heart of Baadicade land. That map u posted in the link confirms it. How are you 80% in the heart of Baadicade land? This is why AMISOM and Hawadle militia can't capture these two cities. Because Xawadle has no real strength here. Gugundhabe is the authority there. How come you cant defeat "tiny" Baadicade? Its secretly a qabiil war. Hawadle militia and AMISOM were only able to capture Hawadle areas of Hiiraan. Majority of Hiiraan is under the so called minorities control under the guise of Shabab. West and South Beletweyne has no real AMISOM and Hawadle militia presence. Its controlled by Shabab at night just like Daynille and Huriwaa. You can capture Beledweyne but can't capture Jalalaqsi and Bulobarde? How does that work? 50,000 people each live in those towns. If you were indeed majority, you would capture it. Hawadle is not in Shabab. Reality is gaaljecel is bigger than u, u r 2nd but u get help from mudulood n AMISOM. If u let nature rimits course, gaaljecel would win the hiraan wars.

Anyone who believes Sahal claims of Hiiraan being 80% Hawadle is delusional. 4 out of 5 Hiiraanians are Hawadle where over 10 qabiils live? How can 50,000 be from 10 clans and Hawadle is 350,000-400,000

wallahi o billahi sahal himself is not from hiiraan. Wallahi billahi his reer don't live in hiiraan. I think hes from galbeed or shabellaha dhexe. He has no knowledge of hiiraan. He is saying jajele is from galbeed and gaaljecel majority in kismayo.

please tel us sahal does ur reer live in hiiraan? Just answer so we can all hear.

and tell us why hawadle militia and AMISOM cant capture jalalaqsi and bulabarde if ur indeed the authority there?
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Sahal......there is freedom of speech on snet.....even though a contrary view offends you .
All your accusations are just a sign of your weakness.

I'm interested in what Nerdfresh has to say......does that make me a qabilist?
ps the people spreading fitna are those whom are burning entire villages in Hiiraan.
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Geo7,

if you guys where the majority you would liberate the region long time ago but you can't since the majroity gugundhabe is supporting XSM.meeshatan caaruur ma joogaan, my reer abti are Gaaljecel and i have worked in the region. Prove me wrong or shut up 8-)
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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You want to talk about reality yet you talk nonsense nonstop.

Those who are allied with Al Shabaab (you know who they are) are mostly from the minority clans in Hiiraan. Xawaadle is the majority clan in Hiiraan. It's was them that HG fought against in 95, it's Xawaadle that always gets the governorship of Hiiraan (post Barre's regime), and always protects the region from the invaders.

If you want to talk about Hiiraan, you can't do it without mentioning Xawaadle. Reality check.
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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CaliCaato wrote:Geo7,

if you guys where the majority you would liberate the region long time ago but you can't since the majroity gugundhabe is supporting XSM.meeshatan caaruur ma joogaan, my reer abti are Gaaljecel and i have worked in the region. Prove me wrong or shut up 8-)
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and contrary to the nonsense folks love peddle around on the forums, Hawadle and Gugundhabe have lived with one another side by side for centuries. Aside from politics, the perceived enmity between the two is exaggerated.

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Calicaato and Nerdfresh, stop embarrassing yourselves, troll about something else ;)
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Don't give me nonsense that you told the white man Matt Bryden. Hawadle is not the majority. You can make the argument that you are the largest (disputed) but certainly not over 50%. There are over 10 clans. Is everyone else just a few thousand each? How is the extreme minority keeping the majority of Hiiraan under Shabab rule?

Why is Jalalaqsi and Bulobarde (2 hrs away from Beledweyne) still under Shabab even when you have AMISOM and Mudulood support at your disposal? Why was Beledweyne only liberated? Why are you struggling against Baadicade Shabab? You don't even need AMISOM or SNA against the weak minorities of Hiiraan, right? All you need is Hawadle militia.

You will never capture Bulobarde and Jalalaqsi, the playground of Gugundhabe just like your Culusoow will never capture eastern Galgaduud, the playground of Murusade. Good luck liberating "majority" boy. This is exactly why Gugundhabe is with Shabab. The arrogance of Hawadle is sickening. You Hawadle parasites should advance to the other two towns. Gugundhabe will drink your blood
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Talk about cuqdad. :lol:
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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He does have a point.
If all the degaans are Hawadle.....why aint they liberated? :?
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Re: Reality of Hiiraan

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Reality check since when did Buloburde become majority Galjecal? :lol: Hiiraan is synonymous with Ilmo Samatalis and nothing you say in Snet will change that. The whole reason the minority clans support Shabab is because they know once Shabab is gone than most of them will be overrun :lol:
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