I doubt they will do something foolish. They will have to learn to compromise others we will ban khatSomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Isaaq have real power i.e the gun, good luck trying to give their lands to lax lax.
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There are laws that federal states have to be 2 or more regions so no the western isaaq clans cannot split. If there is a proposition to create a new federal region and the people agree with it - then the gov has to honour that.
The foundation of federalism is clan, it is a proposal so that clans can manage their own land without heavy interference from the capital gov. If some communities are forced to other clan states and they dissagree then their will be conflict. It is why Jubbaland exists and there is no 6 region state, it is also why the digil - mirifle are campaigning to include lower shabelle to Bay and Bakool.
The foundation of federalism is clan, it is a proposal so that clans can manage their own land without heavy interference from the capital gov. If some communities are forced to other clan states and they dissagree then their will be conflict. It is why Jubbaland exists and there is no 6 region state, it is also why the digil - mirifle are campaigning to include lower shabelle to Bay and Bakool.
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XimanJaale wrote:I doubt they will do something foolish. They will have to learn to compromise others we will ban khatSomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Isaaq have real power i.e the gun, good luck trying to give their lands to lax lax.
Honestly I would say lets just give Lascanood city to the Isaacs, resettle the rest of lax lax's in Bari and Nugaal, which is virtually empty.
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We cannot split a region because of clan. Otherwise some of the 18 regions of Somalia would want to split and join other regions this not acceptable we cannot redraw the borders of the 18 regions of Somalia.Estarix wrote:There are laws that federal states have to be 2 or more regions so no the western isaaq clans cannot split. If there is a proposition to create a new federal region and the people agree with it - then the gov has to honour that.
The foundation of federalism is clan, it is a proposal so that clans can manage their own land without heavy interference from the capital gov. It is why Jubbaland exists and there is no 6 region state, it is also why the digil - mirifle are campaigning to include lower shabelle to Bay and Bakool.
And no the foundation of federalism is not clan. Why are Somalis so retarded? Federalism was implemented to bring power to the regions as Somalis used to complain that central government did not care about the regions but only the capital city.
Digil and Mirifle want lower Shabelle because of the coast not because of land grabbing etc. Besides Somalis have need to learn what federalism means.
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That makes sense. But i cant see the two states agreeing to that.
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You need to take it easy with hate against my cousins. It is not cool sxb, I thought u were a patriotic gentleman?SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Honestly I would say lets just give Lascanood city to the Isaacs, resettle the rest of lax lax's in Bari and Nugaal, which is virtually empty.
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They will have to agree if they are looking for the benefit of the country. I'm planning to propose this idea to someone in the government later this week. InshaAllah will see their response.Estarix wrote:That makes sense. But i cant see the two states agreeing to that.
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XimanJaale wrote:You need to take it easy with hate against my cousins. It is not cool sxb, I thought u were a patriotic gentleman?SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Honestly I would say lets just give Lascanood city to the Isaacs, resettle the rest of lax lax's in Bari and Nugaal, which is virtually empty.
Fine I would respect the lax lax's on your behalf but you have to admit that SNM already controls Lascanood for the past seven years.
Lasqooreey itself is now heavily settled by SNM, give it 10-15 years Lascanood will become a SNM city.
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Thank you brotherSomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Fine I would respect the lax lax on your behave but you have to admit that SNM already controls Lascanood for the past seven years.
Lasqooreey itself is now heavily settled by SNM, give it 10-15 years Lascanood will become a SNM city.
Regards to SNM and their aggression against Dhullos and Warsans it is nothing to do with clan hatred. Dhullos, Warsans and Isaaqs are neighbours and have historic relations, the tension between them is regards to Somalilands plea for recognition and therefore it is important for them to control the lands of former British Somaliland. So if anything you as a patriotic person need to support the Lax Lax than the secessionist SNM. As the Lax Lax want the blue flag
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Of-course "XimanJaale I will respect your wishes since the prime minister of Somalia is Sade and since you are a patriotic Somali brother.XimanJaale wrote:Thank you brotherSomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:
Fine I would respect the lax lax on your behave but you have to admit that SNM already controls Lascanood for the past seven years.
Lasqooreey itself is now heavily settled by SNM, give it 10-15 years Lascanood will become a SNM city.![]()
Regards to SNM and their aggression against Dhullos and Warsans it is nothing to do with clan hatred. Dhullos, Warsans and Isaaqs are neighbours and have historic relations, the tension between them is regards to Somalilands plea for recognition and therefore it is important for them to control the lands of former British Somaliland. So if anything you as a patriotic person need to support the Lax Lax than the secessionist SNM. As the Lax Lax want the blue flag
Honestly i prefer the SNM over the lax lax even though the SNM are not patriotic nonetheless they are a noble people. You could drink coffee with them, laugh with them, eat in their house and you would never sense hatred or tribalism from them. Majority of them have good hearts.
Ugaas XimanJaale I don't like your cousins the lax lax, though the Mj could be cool at times however I find the mini lax lax's to be the most disgusting people I could know. Their hatred for my clan is shocking and uncalled for but this is the behavior expected from bitter langaabs. And I would go as to advise any Xalaal Somali to be wary and cautious of these people.
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MarsinQorahay wrote:xiinow ina sankadhoodhi can't wait to see this ilkayar buttrape your hutu ass.
A qaxooti Ethiopian talking abt rape
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I don't get along with these people, I see them below me. They remind me of alcoholics/druggies with their red/dark teeth and their love for anything gaalo. These people should always be controlled, you can never trust them. In 1961 a year after independence they tried a coup, these people are also very trivial and get offended easily, they are also very emotional. Look at Somaliland today, instead of discussing about development they are busy discussing a doctor that has come to their land for work. They have misplaced prioritise. Also I always dislike people that chew khat, and this tribe 90% of their men chew and 50% of their women chew. So no I will not socialise with them or drink coffee with them, unless if they are not the stereotypical Isaaq and more educated/sophisticated Isaaqs then that is fine.SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote: Of-course "XimanJaale I will respect your wishes since the prime minister of Somalia is Sade and since you are a patriotic Somali brother.
Honestly i prefer the SNM over the lax lax even though the SNM are not patriotic nonetheless they are a noble people. You could drink coffee with them, laugh with them, eat in their house and you would never sense hatred or tribalism from them. Majority of them have good hearts.
Ugaas XimanJaale I don't like your cousins the lax lax, though the Mj could be cool at times however I find the mini lax lax's to be the most disgusting people I could know. Their hatred for my clan is shocking and uncalled for but this is the behavior expected from bitter langaabs.
Believe me Isaaqs are not Noble at all, maybe a few of them. I will choose other Northerners than a Isaaq. Wallahi I swear to god not many of them have good hearts, they are the most tribalistic people ever! Go visit Hargeisa and their land they 24/7 talk about qabil bullshit and their constant hate against anything wanlaweyne.
Not so long ago did their leaders say a boy born in Addis is closer to a boy born in Mogadishu! Don't let ur hate against Lax Lax blind you with what the Isaaqs really are.
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Faqash boli qarankii waayey will say anything about those that curtailed his free loading ways.
Faqash boli qarankii waayey will say anything about those that curtailed his free loading ways.
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XimanJaale wrote:I don't get along with these people, I see them below me. They remind me of alcoholics/druggies with their red/dark teeth and their love for anything gaalo. These people should always be controlled, you can never trust them. In 1961 a year after independence they tried a coup, these people are also very trivial and get offended easily, they are also very emotional. Look at Somaliland today, instead of discussing about development they are busy discussing a doctor that has come to their land for work. They have misplaced prioritise. Also I always dislike people that chew khat, and this tribe 90% of their men chew and 50% of their women chew. So no I will not socialise with them or drink coffee with them, unless if they are not the stereotypical Isaaq and more educated/sophisticated Isaaqs then that is fine.SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote: Of-course "XimanJaale I will respect your wishes since the prime minister of Somalia is Sade and since you are a patriotic Somali brother.
Honestly i prefer the SNM over the lax lax even though the SNM are not patriotic nonetheless they are a noble people. You could drink coffee with them, laugh with them, eat in their house and you would never sense hatred or tribalism from them. Majority of them have good hearts.
Ugaas XimanJaale I don't like your cousins the lax lax, though the Mj could be cool at times however I find the mini lax lax's to be the most disgusting people I could know. Their hatred for my clan is shocking and uncalled for but this is the behavior expected from bitter langaabs.
Believe me Isaaqs are not Noble at all, maybe a few of them. I will choose other Northerners than a Isaaq. Wallahi I swear to god not many of them have good hearts, they are the most tribalistic people ever! Go visit Hargeisa and their land they 24/7 talk about qabil bullshit and their constant hate against anything wanlaweyne.
Not so long ago did their leaders say a boy born in Addis is closer to a boy born in Mogadishu! Don't let ur hate against Lax Lax blind you with what the Isaaqs really are.
Honestly I see the Isaac as harmless and eccentric. In the past I could never figure out as to why the Isaacs were always constly fighting and killing the Ogadens.
Naivly I used to say people should help the Ogadens rather than cause them more confilct and problems, but walahi now i understand the reasons behind the actions of the isaacs,
The qaxooti's are the most disgusting people, now they are forcefully trying to claim my lands in the Jubba's whilst they have surrendered thier own lands in Ogadenia.
And when they are burned and killed they will call it genocide, just like what SNM done to them after they tried to settle by force in SNM lands.
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