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This government was doomed to fail the min the diverted and hijacked the agenda set by Puntlanders and even sidelined Punlanders who were serious in bringing federal government to Southerners. I am not hoping evil for Moqdisho residents, but I hope you all chose competent leaders who know how to share power
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XimanJaale wrote:
skywalker25 wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:Gabre,

It is true that Ethiopia controls certain parts mainly Somaliland and Puntland. It also has it's influence on the government of Somalia. But Ethiopia will forever control us until we unite as people and quit attacking every government that pops up. How do u expect the Somali government to function when Somalis are running along to Ethiopia for advice, or when certain Somalis feel sidelined they complain to Ethiopia instead of their own government. :down:
The word Lax does not do this man justice. He is by far the most retarded user on this forum.

I mean who would find time to keep up with what other people are doing if your region is the least developed in all Somalia, besides a looney... :sland: :up:
The difference between you and I is that you care about your own region whilst I care about all regions in Somalia. Like they say gacmo wadajir ayay wax uu qabtan. No clan can reach the moon, the only time a Somali can reach the moon is when they are united.

I'm just being honest, Somalia in all corners are bitches for Ethiopia, whether you like it or not. I'm not saying this to insult Reer Somaliland but rather telling them the truth so they can wake up. And that goes for all Somalis not just Somaliland.
And my advice to you is; instead of running around like a headless chicken or a parasite trying to leech of other peoples hard work in Mogdisho go build your own region. Real talk.

Its like me having no roof over my head but more concerned about helping someone else building their house. You need to build your region just like Puntland and every other region is trying to but you want to be the begger of mogadisho. Someone should have told you Boli Qaran is over, you have to work hard in todays world.
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chilinbadboy wrote:When the mareexan were fighting each other a decade ago, a sub-clan of the mareexaan asked,the Ethiopians to help them.
It was actually Al-Itihad VS SNF. Besides like said before this phenomena is not new and began since late 70's and early 80's. But I'm talking about Somalis today. That we need to unite in order to get rid off Ethiopia's influence.

Divide and conquer, ever heard about that? That is what happening in Somalia in the last 20+ years.
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skywalker25 wrote:
And my advice to you is; instead of running around like a headless chicken or a parasite trying to leech of other peoples hard work in Mogdisho go build your own region. Real talk.

Its like me having no roof over my head but more concerned about helping someone else building their house. You need to build your region just like Puntland and every other region is trying to but you want to be the begger of mogadisho. Someone should have told you Boli Qaran is over, you have to work hard in todays world.
Who said I'am not helping out my own tribal region? Go Gedo section you will see plenty development related work that occurs in Gedo. Matter of fact Gedo and Banaadir region are the most peaceful and most developing region in Southern Somalia, and one of regions in South Somalia that host large number of IDP's.

Also boli qaran or not, Mogadishu was only 4 district before Siad Barre took over and there were over 12 district when he left. If Marehan infact did took advanatge of their power, Gedo would had been one of the most developed region back before 1991, but it wasn't. Now quit replaying me the fairytale stories your parents told you.

But unlike the self-fish and degrading dreams of your likes, my aim is to develop all of Somalia and to unite the country so that they can built their own things instead of relying on western handouts. So that tahriib doesn't happen, so that Somalia becomes a beacon to the rest of Africa and Muslim world. I have a massive ambitions, whilst the likes of you have pathetic ambition.
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BlackRain wrote:This government was doomed to fail the min the diverted and hijacked the agenda set by Puntlanders and even sidelined Punlanders who were serious in bringing federal government to Southerners. I am not hoping evil for Moqdisho residents, but I hope you all chose competent leaders who know how to share power

Blackrain, if Puntland was a federalist genius, it would have found a solution to demilitarized Mudug and Gaalkacyo. The creation of a one subclan administration composed of two regions in a corner of the country can't exactly be modeled throughout.
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BlackRain wrote:This government was doomed to fail the min the diverted and hijacked the agenda set by Puntlanders and even sidelined Punlanders who were serious in bringing federal government to Southerners. I am not hoping evil for Moqdisho residents, but I hope you all chose competent leaders who know how to share power
If the PM was Majerteen, your tune will change. Somalis and their clan mentality is why any government would not progress.
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G7- And what does that has do with federalism ? The model itself wasn't perfect, but all it needed was little adjustment and additions to make it more comprehensive to all regions. The model is still used by regions in Jubbaland, Bay and Bakool, but it has been beset by roadblocks perpetuated by greedy centralists who wants the power all by themselves. Sh.Hassan could have pushed this federalism and everybody would have been happy
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XimanJaale wrote:
BlackRain wrote:This government was doomed to fail the min the diverted and hijacked the agenda set by Puntlanders and even sidelined Punlanders who were serious in bringing federal government to Southerners. I am not hoping evil for Moqdisho residents, but I hope you all chose competent leaders who know how to share power
If the PM was Majerteen, your tune will change. Somalis and their clan mentality is why any government would not progress.
Wallahi it doesn't matter even if he's my own dad. If we are going to build a nation , the government has to bee an all-inclusive. Federal grants has to be decided equally. Everything has to be shared. Go ask your masters in Moqdisho If they have done anything in the two years they have been in power
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After months of flooding the forum with meaningless articles, at last you've found the Gospel of Truth. :lol: . I am happy for you Monsieur SAhal, now focus on Ukraine. :up:
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The SFG is a joke. :pacspit:
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Wallahi it doesn't matter even if he's my own dad. If we are going to build a nation , the government has to bee an all-inclusive. Federal grants has to be decided equally. Everything has to be shared. Go ask your masters in Moqdisho If they have done anything in the two years they have been in power
Xasan Sheekh and his government has been in power 1 and few months. And they have done lots jobs since then. But afcourse you wouldn't be aware because u only focus on the negative things.

The government is already all-inclusive both the parliament, cabinet, diplomats and other roles.

The federal grant cannot be even discussed now as Somalia didn't even reach the stage where it has developed the federal regions, federal laws etc. So I don't why you even mentioning this.

Somalia is busy fighting Al-Shabaab and bringing the South peaceful, whilst doing so, they are also trying to solve the federal issue though they are international and local spoilers that are sabotaging things.
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BlackRain wrote:G7- And what does that has do with federalism ? The model itself wasn't perfect, but all it needed was little adjustment and additions to make it more comprehensive to all regions. The model is still implied by regions in Jubbaland, Bay and Bakool, but it has been beset by roadblocks perpetuated by greedy centralists who wants the power all by themselves. Sh.Hassan could have pushed this federalism and everybody would have been happy
Yes, the model is far from perfect and perfecting it is near impossible. The reason I mention Mudug is to make a case in point. More than likely, in a federalist Somalia, it would be split into two. If the rules are altered in regards to that region, why not other regions with similar concerns? For a country trying to stabilize itself, this whole irrational idea of federalism...is a Pandora Box.
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Warsheekh wrote:The SFG is a joke. :pacspit:
Keep complaining like a bitch and being treated like shit in foreign countries. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither did this government pop out from the sky. The country suffered over 23 years of lawlessness, what were you expecting? Go support your government that is the least you can do.

Somali mucaardinmo kama daalan miyaa? :down:
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Hassan should hire as his propagandist. Wallahi I am not exaggerating, but I only know like there people who support this president ( one Abgaal, Ogaden and Dhulbahante). The vast majority people I know consider him as the worst president ever, and of course a good junk of those people are form the Hawiye clan
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GeoSeven wrote:
BlackRain wrote:G7- And what does that has do with federalism ? The model itself wasn't perfect, but all it needed was little adjustment and additions to make it more comprehensive to all regions. The model is still implied by regions in Jubbaland, Bay and Bakool, but it has been beset by roadblocks perpetuated by greedy centralists who wants the power all by themselves. Sh.Hassan could have pushed this federalism and everybody would have been happy
Yes, the model is far from perfect and perfecting it is near impossible. The reason I mention Mudug is to make a case in point. More than likely, in a federalist Somalia, it would be split into two. If the rules are altered in regards to that region, why not other regions with similar concerns? For a country trying to stabilize itself, this whole irrational idea of federalism...is a Pandora Box.
Actually federalism is feasible in Somalia. But unfortunately it will be difficult to implement it, as Somalis are turning federalism into tribalism. Hence why it is so difficult for the government to even solve this issue, due to the many Somalis popping out tribal states in every bloody town and villages. If federalism doesn't work then, I think we should go back with out 18 regions and make each of these regions a federal state.
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