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Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:21 pm
by Ismail87
Yes, I would be offended. We've inherited it from the previous generations.
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:24 pm
by Lillaahiya
^ Doesn't it suck that external factors can impact your dignity? Weliba you've allowed it to?
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:27 pm
by NoThatAbdi
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat"
If I knew someone was qablistic and sensitive, it would make sense to attack the women of his qabil. Qablistic people usually hold their women in a higher pedestal. Finally there's a theory that men marry(like) their mothers, so if they only have eyes for women of his qabil, someone like his mom.
I guess my post won't make sense to anyone but I used to be the Achille's of cyber wars
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:27 pm
by Estarix
Somalis do not have a individualistic society but a collective one. Somalis help and judge one another based on one's clan.
I would personally not feel badly offended because i dont generalize, there is a good and bad apple in every people.
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:35 pm
by Lillaahiya
You guys are focusing on the examples instead of the question. Do you agree that women and their status impacts your level of pride/dignity/manhood/etc? Are you guys aware that this external factor (women) can adversely effect your pride? And that this is completely arbitrary and has nothing to do w/ your intrinsic qualities as a man?
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:57 pm
by Ismail87
Lillaahiya, it doesn't affect my pride though. You are only losing the war of words until you come up with something similar or more devastating. It is part of being Somali, you are all guilty of someone else's fuck up.

Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:05 pm
by grandpakhalif
Lillaahiya wrote:You guys are focusing on the examples instead of the question. Do you agree that women and their status impacts your level of pride/dignity/manhood/etc? Are you guys aware that this external factor (women) can adversely effect your pride? And that this is completely arbitrary and has nothing to do w/ your intrinsic qualities as a man?
Yes I admit if someone insulted a female clan member of mine, I would feel ways, it's just something inbuilt in me that I can't explain. Maybe it goes back to the days when we were nomads.

Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:18 pm
by LeJusticier
grandpakhalif wrote:Lillaahiya wrote:You guys are focusing on the examples instead of the question. Do you agree that women and their status impacts your level of pride/dignity/manhood/etc? Are you guys aware that this external factor (women) can adversely effect your pride? And that this is completely arbitrary and has nothing to do w/ your intrinsic qualities as a man?
Yes I admit if someone insulted a female clan member of mine, I would feel ways, it's just something inbuilt in me that I can't explain. Maybe it goes back to the days when we were nomads.

Nah, its fish& chips mindset.
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:26 pm
by AbdiJohnson
Somalis are very strange.
A Somali girl who had sex is 100x more shameless than a Somali guy who murdered someone and is in jail for life
I am,
Abdi "Who thinks like this?" Johnson
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:44 am
by SecretAgent

reminds of this farax i noe who insults xalimos from clan x,y,z for marrying non somali then one day his sister married a non somali dude was so happy and supportive even gave money to them!

Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:46 am
by original dervish
Lill
It doesn't bother me in the slightest....and why should it?
Such behavior can best be described as "cultural hangups", like fgm being practiced in the west.
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:17 am
by Lillaahiya
^ But you do engage in it

So you will use women as a weapon against someone's 'manhood' but it doesn't bother you when you're on the receiving end?
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:38 am
by metamorphosis
Your best bet to offend men would be to go after what they desire the most and it just so happens to be that there is nothing more dearer to men than women.
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:49 am
by BlackRain
Only if she's a family member or wife, now that's my pride and butter LOL. But if somebody is insulting a women from my qabiil , wallahi I could carless
Re: Male Pride & Insulting Women
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:38 am
by Hyperactive
LeJusticier wrote:Ciyaalka fish&chips kaftankoodu, caydooda, fadhi ku dirirkoodu etc midna ma aha kii wadankii aan ku aqaanay. Koodu waa nooc minal qurbe.
wa runta, akhlaq humo weye in raga womenfolks la aflagadeyo. ragu wey is dilan weyna hesheeyan. balse islamnimo iyo akhlaq ba ma aha in la aflagadeyo, nin ad is dirirten haweenkiisa.
lily, to answer your last question, nope you can insult men or women of my tribe and I careless. about my family qofki 3aayo, hadee af 3aytamey ninkeeso ko yaala. reality wont effect me, qofku noeesa ombo ko tusi and you just avoid contact with fools.