hargeysa should remotely involve in the somali politics

[Hodan94]

Seems like the somalilanders are not smart at diplomacy and lobbying rather would like to watch the things happening!

One of the main FAKE arguments of the mps who met againist the somali president was "putting the unity of somalia in danger"

Because of what was reached so far, the talks have facilitated for somaliland many things like getting an special arrangement in the new deal

Diplomatically, now, somalilands territory is seen as one due to the govt agreeing being a "separtate entity". This means no outside danger as the west and the bording states are againist this unitl the issue was sorted out between mogadishu and hargeysa

Now, all these gains can change of the regime/the legitimacy changes and was replaced by an anti Somaliland secession elites(a weaker and regionally led mogadishu politicians)

Why hargeysa is not contacting and using these mps whom 39 of them hail from hargeysa?


As the national security minister a week ago was alluding that he has the support of his clan and lacks the same support in other two clans, this seems to be the case of the regime as whole. Besides their connections they have sharif hassan and need to secure mps of an important sector!.

I'm not supporting the govt here, just againist some agenda wich targets our interests!.

Bro Sahal, again this is where many of us draw the line (like you and me), I'll take these weaker and regional led Mogadishu politicians that are anti- secessionists Somaliland any time over this Weak Somaliland appeaser P/Hassan!!!!

These weaker regional politicians in mogadishu know that the only way forward is a real reconciliation between Darood and Hawiye's and fight against seccesionist Somalilanders!

This Weak p/Hassan has without a doubt put Somalia's unity in danger all to appease a minority habeshi loving Somaliland.

I'll choose a weaker (Kenya and Ethiopia influenced) politicians take will keep the Somalia unity intact in power over this p/Hassan DJ pro-somaliland anytime!,....wallahi Daroods, Hawiye and any Somali nationalist need to do something about this Somaliland project before it gets out of hand!

ladies and gentleman this person has just exposed his clans intentions.
talk about 'somaliweyne'

which is why sl army is at its stand by mode.....it seems this 91 grudge is not over yet.

with this calaanka tawheedka we will win.

but too bad this event will never happen, it seems the reason why hsm is being impeached at the moment is that the country is run by foreigners.

[Warabaha]

@Hodan

The isaaq elders will not stop isaaq this time

[sahal80]

Guys when will you learn the other opinion/al ray al akhar? You don't need to comment on Event and how many times?

Event I respect your opinion but like they said faqid el shi la yo3ti, there is no unity to give others!

There cannot be unity without central state, the real reason of this motion is to get rid of the centralists!!

This political attitude can be found from north of hiiraan to south of xamar!

What focking state and unity your talking about then? Atleast unite and have control on the south!!

Bigbreak and hodan

I was suggesting that for your own interests.

In sudan all the opposations and the traditional parties were unionists but this was not the case of the ruling islamists, al turabi use to threaten egypt with creating the south sudan state if it did not stop supporting the opposation and giving a wrong reports to the west againist khartoum, this separatist attitude come from the regime itself. What the south sudanes did was suddenly becoming cooperative, they stopped the war from one side despite the northern opposation because they knew that once they reach the power they will not recognize them as they have the westren support!

All Tte Islamists needed was to imposse the sharia only on the muslim north so there can be excuses!

It was a done deal!

Now I'm afraid you may not get every thing for free, good luck to you though!!.

[Even123]

Sxb sahal, this Present dawlad needs to wake up and wise up if they want their centralist plan to succeed, they urgently need to do something about Kenya's meddling in Kismayo and Gedo, this fuckin dawlad is weak!

We need some other pro centralist party to take over, maybe alaa'u sheihk!?

[sahal80]

Sxb sahal, this Present dawlad needs to wake up and wise up if they want their centralist plan to succeed, they urgently need to do something about Kenya's meddling in Kismayo and Gedo, this fuckin dawlad is weak!

We need some other pro centralist party to take over, maybe alaa'u sheihk!?

The weakness is from the somali people and the greedy politicians not the govt!

These bordering states are receiving them in their state houses wich is far from from the diplomatic costums!

I'm not with the govts recent weakness wich is a result of the donor positions but the coming is worse if any sudden change happens

We will have an interim rubbish president and pm who will sell every thing and will make a rubbish constitution, sell the sea, the land and every thing, new military contracts including the sea with the african countries etc.

[skywalker25]

For years we've been accused by southerners that we intervere in their business but the truth is we have no interest in getting involved in their affairs.

The truth is we dont see the difference between president X or president Y. To us they are all the same and we don't expect one to serve our interest better than the other. To assume that we would somehow get involved now when all this time we have stayed independent is ludicrous. The policy we have for Somali is the same for Ethopia or Djabouti. Thats how a real respectable government behaves but a kangaroo government made of warlords and warlord fans with the aim of extorting money from donors would not understand.

[abdikarim86]

For years we've been accused by southerners that we intervere in their business but the truth is we have no interest in getting involved in their affairs.

The truth is we dont see the difference between president X or president Y. To us they are all the same and we don't expect one to serve our interest better than the other. To assume that we would somehow get involved now when all this time we have stayed independent is ludicrous. The policy we have for Somali is the same for Ethopia or Djabouti. Thats how a real respectable government behaves but a kangaroo government made of warlords and warlord fans with the aim of extorting money from donors would not understand.

Could not agree more.

Sahal must understand that we do not differentiate between
the groups of Somalia. We do not care if one serves our interest or does not.

To our people you are one and the same.
You are all to be kept at arms length when it comes to politics.

[gurey25]

Sahal you are right in a way you make perfect sense if Somaliland was puntland or jubaland and had to insure that its interests are taken care of in xamar.
You dont understand however that SL is a different entity altogether, your point of view makes sense laakin the fact is this is not how its seen by the average somalilander or our political leadership.

We do not see any value at all in somalia, we do not even see any threat at all
we look down at you and do not want anything to do with you.

It doesnt matter if by our inaction a strong anti somaliland government is formed in xamar,
or if a pro-somaliland government is formed ,
we do not care if the earth opens up and swallows you.

frankly we dont care.

[BigBreak]

thats not nice gurey25 most somalilanders dont have beef with somalians except dooro jebertis but that also doesnt mean we want unity

independence or war, its that simple

[gurey25]

beef?
who said anything about beef?
i said we dont really care, if something good happens or something bad happens.
we dont wish ill on them or wish good on them we dont wish at all.

they dont understand how little we care.

[lander24]

Walahi Gurey is right, hopefully this is a reality check for this sick individual. Little does he know that we haven't had literally anything to do with somalia italiano For the last 23 years at all. We're just wayyy too different politically.

[Warabaha]

Sahal you are right in a way you make perfect sense if Somaliland was puntland or jubaland and had to insure that its interests are taken care of in xamar.
You dont understand however that SL is a different entity altogether, your point of view makes sense laakin the fact is this is not how its seen by the average somalilander or our political leadership.

We do not see any value at all in somalia, we do not even see any threat at all
we look down at you and do not want anything to do with you.

It doesnt matter if by our inaction a strong anti somaliland government is formed in xamar,
or if a pro-somaliland government is formed ,
we do not care if the earth opens up and swallows you.

frankly we dont care.

nothing more to add

[AbdiWahab252]

Lol @ Gurey abti Sahal is more concerned about placating others at the expense of the base of what was solid support from Hawiye. He does not realize that the road to a strong govt is with a united Hawiye base not Issaq or Darood who treat the FG ss a Hawiye entity

[Warabaha]

Lol @ Gurey abti Sahal is more concerned about placating others at the expense of the base of what was solid support from Hawiye. He does not realize that the road to a strong govt is with a united Hawiye base not Issaq or Darood who treat the FG ss a Hawiye entity

Isaaq dont give a fock for the tfg or any other government in somalia

[STARKAST]

What did i say, those who support Somaliland by default support the destruction of Somalia because in their intoxicated (khat) mind it'll achieve them recognition by the white man their former pimp.