If A Region Had Oil

BigBreak · Post by **BigBreak** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:37 pm

all natural resources should of a country should be jointly held by the central govt and sub-national authorities in a balanced or unbalanced manner depending on circumstances. this question should not answered however until the main question is answered and that is:
Q. Can Somalia (formerly Italian Somalia colony) be one country?

thegoodshepherd · Post by **thegoodshepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:38 pm

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
thegoodshepherd wrote:If Puntland is found to have oil, I say we share not a drop of it (except with Jubaland). This is Somalia; it is a dog eat dog country. You do not feed a dog who is your enemy, and who will bite your hand tommorow. Puntland should stay in the federal system and work with Mogadishu but send not a drop of oil there. I am a geopolitical realist.
Look at this dhaboyaco asswipe. I bet you'd be happy to share those resources with Ethiopia or Kenya. The resources in Somalia belong to the people and state of Somalia, not to shitty tribal fiefdoms. That resources shouldn't be extracted until Somalis have the capability and the technology to do it themselves. The future profits should be used to subsidize education and community infrastructure projects.

LQ you and I both know that when oil is found in Puntland, that is when the fun in Somalia will start. Yes I'm a dhabayco

But we are known for being smart. You also know that Somalis don't share. Tell me do you think Dhulbahante and Warsangeli are willing to share Nugaal block with Isaaq and Gudubirsi?

I think not. Why should Puntland share Dharoor block with Reer Koonfur? Come on, this is not about qabil but reality.

Warabaha · Post by **Warabaha** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:39 pm

Hydrogen, do you want it to head to Mogadishu so your leaders can party.

why are you against everyone for themselves notion

original dervish · Post by **original dervish** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:41 pm

Oh.....let me rephrase that for you.
"Looks like every lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender man for themselves" :Shrug:

PS Don't worry about money going to other Somali's....think about the billions going to Kampala,Nairobi, Addis etc. :snoop:

thegoodshepherd · Post by **thegoodshepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:43 pm

original dervish wrote:Oh.....let me rephrase that for you.
"Looks like every lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender man for themselves"
PS Don't worry about money going to other Somali's....think about the billions going to Kampala,Nairobi, Addis etc.

OD why would we send Harti oil to Uganda and Ethiopia?? They have nothing to do with us. They are not in our land nor are they protecting our people.
Why are you so pessimistic caadi iska dhiig ninyahow

hydrogen · Post by **hydrogen** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:52 pm

Warabaha wrote:Hydrogen, do you want it to head to Mogadishu so your leaders can party.

why are you against everyone for themselves notion

I'm not against anything. If he was for 'every man for himself' then he wouldn't mention Mogadishu at all because his clan's traditional land is administered from Hargeisa.

Puntland has nothing but water, Khaatumo doesn't even exist and even if it did—it would possess little of any worth (including human capital). The answer: claim to want to be independent from Mogadishu. 15 years time, they will be decrying Mogadishu for not attending to their lack of pretty much everything.

I wish it were the case of 'every man for himself' because every Darood would die out eventually.

Warabaha · Post by **Warabaha** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:55 pm

Kkkkkkk

good response, i agree. Unfortunately you are correct

GIJaamac · Post by **GIJaamac** » Fri May 30, 2014 1:56 pm

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
thegoodshepherd wrote:If Puntland is found to have oil, I say we share not a drop of it (except with Jubaland). This is Somalia; it is a dog eat dog country. You do not feed a dog who is your enemy, and who will bite your hand tommorow. Puntland should stay in the federal system and work with Mogadishu but send not a drop of oil there. I am a geopolitical realist.
Look at this dhaboyaco asswipe. I bet you'd be happy to share those resources with Ethiopia or Kenya. The resources in Somalia belong to the people and state of Somalia, not to shitty tribal fiefdoms.That resources shouldn't be extracted until Somalis have the capability and the technology to do it themselves. The future profits should be used to subsidize education and community infrastructure projects.

dirty waqooyi

Since when did you speak for Somalia ? You are from SL, not Somalia. Dude you can wait another 50 years to educate your people in SL how to dig oil, aday kuu taalla. But we in Somalia can't wait for that long. You can't run a country with empty pledges and little foreign aid. My advice to you is, pray really hard to Allah that commercial oil deposits are found in Somaliland. Haddii kale you'll remain in your shithole state for a very very long time.

original dervish wrote:There is no way in hell you could send oil revenue to Mog (not with those crooks in Villa Somalia).
Looks like it's every man for himself.

You are from SL, Hargeisa is your capital. you have nothing to do with Xamar. Ka dhamaaw magaalada aabahaa wasee.

thegoodshepherd · Post by **thegoodshepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:08 pm

hydrogen wrote:
Warabaha wrote:Hydrogen, do you want it to head to Mogadishu so your leaders can party.

why are you against everyone for themselves notion
I'm not against anything. If he was for 'every man for himself' then he wouldn't mention Mogadishu at all because his clan's traditional land is administered from Hargeisa.

Puntland has nothing but water, Khaatumo doesn't even exist and even if it did—it would possess little of any worth (including human capital). The answer: claim to want to be independent from Mogadishu. 15 years time, they will be decrying Mogadishu for not attending to their lack of pretty much everything.

I wish it were the case of 'every man for himself' because every Darood would die out eventually.

Hydro walahi we don't want anything from Mogadishu, just pass us our share of the international aid. Never does Puntland get its share of International aid, just give us our part of the aid and keep everything else. We don't need anything else from Mogadishu just the money from the International community.

PS. Darood can't die out because it controls the Juba valley, the most fertile and best land of all of Somalia, people always forget this.

Warabaha · Post by **Warabaha** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:14 pm

You get 30 million from muqdisho be grateful. The Mogadishu government gives you all that and they don't have to give you a penny.

original dervish · Post by **original dervish** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:19 pm

Thick.... doesn't begin to describe you.

hydrogen · Post by **hydrogen** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:31 pm

thegoodshepherd wrote:
hydrogen wrote:
Warabaha wrote:Hydrogen, do you want it to head to Mogadishu so your leaders can party.

why are you against everyone for themselves notion
I'm not against anything. If he was for 'every man for himself' then he wouldn't mention Mogadishu at all because his clan's traditional land is administered from Hargeisa.

Puntland has nothing but water, Khaatumo doesn't even exist and even if it did—it would possess little of any worth (including human capital). The answer: claim to want to be independent from Mogadishu. 15 years time, they will be decrying Mogadishu for not attending to their lack of pretty much everything.

I wish it were the case of 'every man for himself' because every Darood would die out eventually.

Hydro walahi we don't want anything from Mogadishu, just pass us our share of the international aid. Never does Puntland get its share of International aid, just give us our part of the aid and keep everything else. We don't need anything else from Mogadishu just the money from the International community.

PS. Darood can't die out because it controls the Juba valley, the most fertile and best land of all of Somalia, people always forget this.

Why do you want money from the international 'community'? Why can't Puntland sustain itself?

thegoodshepherd · Post by **thegoodshepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:36 pm

Warabaha wrote:You get 30 million from muqdisho be grateful. The Mogadishu government gives you all that and they don't have to give you a penny.

What do you mean "30 million"? Germany Turkey and Norway promised to give Puntland 40 million in development aid. Do you know what the Federal gov did? They said no the money must go through us and cannot be paid directly to P/L. What happened? they took a 10 million cut

"they don't have to give you a penny" what do you mean? Are we not a part of this "Somalia" to which donations are being made? We of course deserve our share of development aid. It is not their money to give

It is money that was earmarked for Somalia and they have to give us our share of it

hydrogen wrote:Why do you want money from the international 'community'? Why can't Puntland sustain itself?

Mogadishu should just front us our fair share. Weather P/L is sustainable or not is not a topic of discussion. I actually question the sustainability of the federal gov

The people of Puntland deserve their fair share of that money and they should get it. Period. its none of Mogadishu's business what we do with it.

Warabaha · Post by **Warabaha** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:41 pm

How much does galmudug get

thegoodshepherd · Post by **thegoodshepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:46 pm

Warabaha wrote:How much does galmudug get

Since the money is distributed by gobols, they get half of the money earmarked for Mudug. Galmudug has actully been seeing a lot of development lately which has improved the security situation considerably

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