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LOOOOL kowa puntladerska soo fakfakana you should stop first your falling villages lol

biimaal waaba menace i don't understand why they constantly wanna be in this situation; the gobol is too dang large to occupy them and the indigenous Saleebaan and Cayr. You can't expect an indigenous people to relocate elsewhere, just doesn't settle well with them. They need to reject outside influence that only want mayhem for them and the rest.

^Sheegato alert ileen dir aa aheed

waraa sahal threadka haa uga ciyariin

sahal80 wrote:LOOOOL kowa puntladerska soo fakfakana you should stop first your falling villages lol

Why in the HELL should Puntland not be included?? If people from Baydhabo, which is under attack by alkabab, are included. We have an organized militia and can contribute. Sahal I believe you have a BIG Cuqdad against P/L. P/L is part and parcel of Somalia and we should be included in any force.

EVERONE SAHAL IS A QABILIST, NOTICE HOW HE DID'NT INCLUDE ANY FORCES FROM JUBAS GEDO OR PUNTLAND??

Facts about lower shabelle

Lower shabelles red indians are the silcis gorgaarte, very small clan who ruled afgooye but was dethroned by their followers(geladi)

Biimaal are post-silcis/ajuran natives just like mudulood and murursade, are found between number 50 and the coastal area like shalambood, marka, scattered up to janaale

In my opinion the majority of lower shabelle is populated with digil

Native murursade from south of balidoogle at tisxIile to the west of afgooye up to danyniile, hawlwadaag and wardhiigley

Abgaal sisters scattered all the way from jilib, biyooleey, up to lafoole

There are murursade in mareerey they had problems with HG who trried to settle among them, they refused with the help of al shabaab

Digil strongly are found in the interior, north west aka walawan/daafeed, south west along the bay and bakool borders like awdheegle, qoryooleey, sablaale, barawe

Hg are nowadays found in big numbers

Before it was gaaljecel and hawadle in the southwest and north west after digil but now HG are found in qoryooley, sablaale(since the 70s) barawe (new comers) biimaal are stronger in janaale but in the middle of HG.

Gen nuur cadoow a well known and one of the somalias fist army officers (from my subclan) had a lot of aseendooyin in golwan.

Lower shabelle is bigger than one clan.

Now you should understand where HGs real secret power comes from: the majority of digil in lower shabelled are the garre clan, this clan is aligned with the HG and hawiye rather than with rahanwan. 90 percent of them see themselves as hawiye. This is the reason why xamar nominates them as the governor all the time!

Why they hate raxanwan? Because rahanwan backs their rivals aka jiido

Jiido and garre fight all the time, garre are stronger in lower shabelle for being backed by hawiye while jiido is stronger in diinsoor for being backed by rahanwan.

What are HG and biimaal fighting on?

On the farms!

Garre is welcoming HG, there's a war between garre and gaaljecel in between walawan and balidoogle(gaaljecel are strong in between buurhakabo, hiiraan anbd baledoogle, own a lot of villages like leego) in this war HG backs garre!

Politically, gaaljecel, hawadle and jeedo are one side

In the mid-90s, garre and biimaale were siding with HG againist hawadle!

If garre was againist HG, they would have disappeared!

Now HG is backing garre againist their last ally biimaal!!!

Notice how garre hates biimaal and rahanwan!

http://so.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garre

Biyomaal built Merka after their migration down south after the awdal-aksum wars

did anyone here ever hear about biyomaal conquering merka and killing and wiping out people for it? in the 1500s or whenever they first came to the south

NO

because they built it, hawiye just migrated and out of somalinimo we let them settle

can you sahal80 name one town biyomaal stole from ANYONE? before this war mess?


also dir built Benaadir as well = Bandaar Dir = port of dir, also Banaanka Dir, Dir's lands

remember the name biyomaal means those who work with water, that could be a sea man,, a fisher man, it is a general term who occupation deals with large bodies of water, HENCE THEY BUILT A PORT , that is an OCCUPATION dealing with WATER, use your f-king brains snetters, I am telling you the truth, do not be fooled by lies

How can you claim their right? They built Merka that is why they are fighting for it,
Hawiye just want to take it, im not sure if they built any ports tbh, i don't care

Biyomaal has built Merka therefore they will protect Merka, any Hawiye who wants to keep lying, you have been refuted

Garre lost their dignity when they left bale or whatever, fleeing the oromos, they turn on their kin who protected them
they will get whats coming to them inshallah\

Biyomaal fought the italians in order to free Somalia and the south, their thanks is the people they freed trying to kill them and take what they have built.

then Hawiye garre and whom ever else turn on them, disgusting

JuliusCaesar wrote:Biyomaal built Merka after their migration down south after the awdal-aksum wars

did anyone here ever hear about biyomaal conquering merka and killing and wiping out people for it? in the 1500s or whenever they first came to the south

NO

because they built it, hawiye just migrated and out of somalinimo we let them settle

can you sahal80 name one town biyomaal stole from ANYONE? before this war mess?


also dir built Benaadir as well = Bandaar Dir = port of dir, also Banaanka Dir, Dir's lands

remember the name biyomaal means those who work with water, that could be a sea man,, a fisher man, it is a general term who occupation deals with large bodies of water, HENCE THEY BUILT A PORT , that is an OCCUPATION dealing with WATER, use your f-king brains snetters, I am telling you the truth, do not be fooled by lies

How can you claim their right? They built Merka that is why they are fighting for it,
Hawiye just want to take it, im not sure if they built any ports tbh, i don't care

Biyomaal has built Merka therefore they will protect Merka, any Hawiye who wants to keep lying, you have been refuted

Garre lost their dignity when they left bale or whatever, fleeing the oromos, they turn on their kin who protected them
they will get whats coming to them inshallah\

Biyomaal fought the italians in order to free Somalia and the south, their thanks is the people they freed trying to kill them and take what they have built.

then Hawiye garre and whom ever else turn on them, disgusting

Firstly, garre of lower shabelle are different than these in ethiopia and kenya, garre in lower shabelle claim hawiye/samalle also speak af digil/central banadiri dialect not that related oromo af-garre

Secondly, yes biimaal were the warriors who captured marka like mudulood captured afgoye along side with the galadi natives also murursade who was cooperating with galadi all the way to mareeray

But what you don't know is that a group who was leading biimaal and know the land were the ones who replaced the silcis in marko, this group(ceel amiir) is believed to be the wadalaan who got replaced by the galadi state, from here the biimaal have lost all the territories they have gained before just like the rest of the clans, there was a powerful state from afgooye to baardheere. Biimaal were resisting though and indeed they killed the sultan.

On the other hand mudulood and murursade were in peace with galadi.

name one city biyomaal captured before this war business, they are fighters yes but they are honourable

they freed you from the italians and you want to stab them in the back , steal their land and spread lies lol

they built merka with their bare hands

your lies convince me of nothing btw

tell me of the ports hawiye built, without you trying to shegaat merka,

go on i wonder does ajuraan count?

JuliusCaesar wrote:name one city biyomaal captured before this war business, they are fighters yes but they are honourable

they freed you from the italians and you want to stab them in the back , steal their land and spread lies lol

they built merka with their bare hands

your lies convince me of nothing btw

tell me of the ports hawiye built, without you trying to shegaat merka,

go on i wonder does ajuraan count?

lol my djiboutian friend marko was built by todobada koofi! There were no biimaal in marka before the 90s!

As native nomads, biimaal were were bringing the milk to the town but the sultan of biimaal had a resprect in marka. That is it.

Biimaalka laga yaabo inay marko leeyihiin madama ay ku hareerasanaayeen dhinbaca xamar iyo dhinaca koonfur laakiin waxaa jira qolo sheekhal cadcad ah oo dega xeebta hoosteeda is direct ah sida jilib yareey, magalaadana waa labo sheekhaal(gandarshe iyo gameedle) iyo qabiladhoho duruqba waxaa ka dhashey shimali ahmed shimali iyo banadiri kale. Biimaalka waxee udhaxeeyaan bada iyo wabiga laakiin xeebta hade degeen inkastoo ay difaaci jireen ka mujahidiin.

Shalaambood ee biimaalka ka bilaadwaan, waxaa xamar ka xiga shekhal gandarshe hadana gadaalna sheekhal gandarshe oo ilaa goobwen meela dhoho dhanka xeebta oo tuni kabilaabato

Dhinaca wabiga numbar 50, ilaa janaale koonfur.

That was interesting Sahal, thanks for the rundown. If anybody would know about the region, it's you I suppose since you're from the area.

GeoSeven wrote:That was interesting Sahal, thanks for the rundown. If anybody would know about the region, it's you I suppose since you're from the area.

you welcome mate. Thanks.