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Khalid-

Don't be like Hawdian who makes no sense and keeps harking about when Hawiye turns against him. Everyone who is rer Somalia in this topic from Murax to Sahal to the Majerten young man to I concurred Abdiwali is the Marehan least liked by Hawiye and he seems secure in his position. That's because he learned from Farmaajo and Saacid and realized UNPOS and Ethiopia are the Somali government and he is their man in the govt now.

Rer Ugaas Shermarke and my rer Siyaad are full brothers within Diini (along with Warsame). Traditionally rer Siyaad and rer Ugaas Shermaarke are chief allies and together the bah-Xawaadle brothers are the primary rer Diini in Gedo. With regards to me being rer Siyaad, the farthest sub-clannish undertone is rer Ugaas Shermaarke. That can't even be used as a joke.

The rest of your babble makes no sense to me.

Murax-

Say the PM was being strategic and making "hard choices" sometimes seen at the expense of his clan in setting a beneficial foundation---and Ahmed Madoobe and the Kenyans are good partners? The admin exists for a year now, where is the parliament that was formed? Where is anything tangible with respect to state building that was implemented in Kismaayo? I mean seriously. ..ok Ahmed Madoobe and Fartaag were named and that is it?

Ahmed Madoobe is simply wasting time eating Kismaayo's port money until he has to run away. He neither has the capacity nor the interest to take so-called Jubba maamul to the next time.

Yet Abdiwali has chosen to get in bed with him. I just find that so naive and detrimental.

The Republic,

Everyone knows only the Hawiye can remove him. Under what condition and argument can Marehan remove the Darod PM? He is not there as a Marehan agent but rather as an official that represents the collective Darood voice and only the President can sack him. The President can lobby various MPs to dismiss him and can always create difficult working conditions for him (MPs, Ministers against him etc).

Few Marehan MPs motion will not go anywhere but rather create internal division amongst Marehan themselves.

Marehan politicians are Hawiye first (their employers), Darood second and Marehan third.

If Hassan is happy with Abdiweli he is not going anywhere any time soon.

As much as I cringe When I say this there is no such thing as a Presidential or Prime Minister 'policy' anywhere in Somalia. What You have rather are mere implementations of Ethiopia, and other regional power's vision. Kenya has entered the fray and are literally attached at the hip with Ethiopia. What recourse does any Somali Head have right now to thwart that? The answer is none. In any event the state of Marehan politically has been dropping lower, and lower due to unsophisticated, rudimentery siyaasad. Our only hope is to 1 day have a secure base to use to pursue and advocate for our interests (Jubbaland). If it takes 2 years of a simpleton like Madoobe being nothing more really than a mayor of Kismayo so what? Think 10,20, 30 years down the road. When Baardheere, Jilib, Jammame are all liberated and the first official President takes the helm, thats what Marehan should be gunning for. Again a small price to pay.



Contrast a local powerbase vs what 95% of what Marehan want: Run to Xamar, put everything You have in there, preach all this 'wadani' rhetoric when in reality it is all fake. Have Your clan routinely disrespected and abused When Marehan PM after PM is outmaneuvered and abused by some simpletons like Sharif or Culusow. Bottom line is its about time Marehan learn where they're from, even if You are completely opposed to the Jubba thing why launch a opposition group based in Xamar? Why not go to B Xaawo or Luuq or Garbaharey? It Has been 20 years of these silly tactics that Has Marehan in Xamar jokingly mocked as 'New Hirab' by the locals there. You have a whole generation from their 60's down who are completely removed from Where they're from, and kudos to Abdiweli for trying to get these fools to think REGIONALLY.

Voltage ina ku gu tufaan rabay..but wan is qabtay.

Anyway..Ramadaan Kariim.

Hawdian-

You are like a broken record now.

Murax-

Clearly this is a private discussion.

Murax,


You've hit vital points, but keep in mind that time is of the essence. The more years go by without owning or co-owning a strong, secure and relatively advanced regional authority, the harder it will be to compete against those who do. The regional authorities of Hargeisa and Garowe have been slowly but surely stengthening year after year for 23 and 16 years respectively. Going through the growing pains and all the necesary stages of peace and development, managing to barely graduate to the next level each occassion. These testing times and hard work are still on the horizon for upcoming regional authorities in the south, it's nature. Even Galmudug experienced the same, but their project has been saved by the intervention of strongman Qeybdid, much like Abdullahi Yusuf and Egal to their respective regions (read: clans). And still to this day, bickering and clan tension keep flaring up in both regions: Somaliland and Puntland.


Marehan should be embracing Prime Minister Abdiweli sheikh Ahmed's vision of a more Juba-centric Marehan, see its position in Mogadishu to what it's worth: Zero. And actively seek to continue a sincere effort to co-own a regional authority in the Juba regions with its multi-clan and multi-ethnic inhabitants. This is the outcome of today's reality, I'm sure had the Marehan embarked on building an autonomous state during Barre Hirale's reign of Kismayo, today's Jubaland would be just as much dominated by Marehan, as Puntland effectively is by Majerten. Alas Hirale never made a sincere effort in this regard, time has flown by and now has to sit idly by while another clan, the Ogaden, have championed the Jubaland initiative and its authority nationally and internationally recognized to boot.


There are still opportunities and it's not too late for Marehan to recover from its failed politicking in the past 2 decades. But in all honesty, no one can blame Marehan either, unlike the Dhulbahante, Marehan has been smack middle in the depths of the civil war. Not exactly the most fertile ground to see any seed grow into something worthwhile. What have the Dhulbahante achieved, sandwiched by two relatively peaceful clans and with all the time and space in the world to choose their political course as a united clan, and still failing to do so anno 2014. The Rahanweyn are likewise as hopeless. See these groups as the true failures Marehan should be wary of becoming if it keeps its delusions of thinking Mogadishu will deliver to them.