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XimanJaale wrote:
Murax wrote:Autonomous Puntland
Autonomous Jubbaland
Autonomous Southwest State


Thats what I want
Good for you.


I want a peaceful, united Somalia where people can vote for their president, MP's, councillors, mayor's, governors. I want a strong Somalia that no foreign enemy can infiltrate and rule over us and adopting autonomous regions will never establish such goals.

Never heard of any country in the world where every single region is autonomous. I think you should learn what 'autonomous' means.
An autonomous administrative division is an administrative division of a country that has a degree of autonomy, or freedom from an external authority. Typically it is either geographically distinct from the rest of the country or populated by a national minority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... e_division


I want whats practical You want a fairytale. Whether it was AY, Shariif, Xassan Sh, We've had nothing but clannist, incompetent presidents. No more of that crap. I really think a Federal/Autonomous model is the only hope.
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There is no such things autonomous model. Autonomous model is for people that are marginalised in a country or people that hoping for separatism, for example the Kurdish region in Iraq or the Kashmir region of Pakistan.

Now since your other option is 'Federalism' then you and other Somalis need to know the role of a federal state member and government. Since Somalis failed to understand the roles it will never become fruitful for example Puntland complaining about the governments oil deal with foreign companies. So the only option and healthy system would be a decentralised government.

Also quit going on about past leaders. What were you expecting from a country that has been in turmoil for 23 years? Angelic leaders?

You need to differentiate leaders from governance systems.
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XimanJaale wrote:There is no such things autonomous model. Autonomous model is for people that are marginalised in a country or people that hoping for separatism, for example the Kurdish region in Iraq or the Kashmir region of Pakistan.

Now since your other option is 'Federalism' then you and other Somalis need to know the role of a federal state member and government. Since Somalis failed to understand the roles it will never become fruitful for example Puntland complaining about the governments oil deal with foreign companies. So the only option and healthy system would be a decentralised government.

Also quit going on about past leaders. What were you expecting from a country that has been in turmoil for 23 years? Angelic leaders?

You need to differentiate leaders from governance systems.

What 'Governance system' is in place in Somalia today? Kudos to Puntland and to the oil companies that deal with them directly. No naked person can clothe another. When the so called President cannot walk 1 km without escorts from Ugandan Forces, He has no place to dictate to others who have real Government institutions who actually Govern.
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What 'Governance system' is in place in Somalia today? Kudos to Puntland and to the oil companies that deal with them directly. No naked person can clothe another. When the so called President cannot walk 1 km without escorts from Ugandan Forces, He has no place to dictate to others who have real Government institutions who actually Govern.
Today Somalia is under the Federal system including the 4.5 system hence why things are not progressing much.

Nothing kudos about Puntland dealing with oil companies directly? Are you mad? Are you instigating for oil war? You need to f-king know the role of federal states and government.

Puntland is not a government it is just a administration, they have no capacity to be called a government. What is next? Puntland to appoint ambassadors to the rest of the world to represent Puntland? You have zero mentality.
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Murax wrote:
What 'Governance system' is in place in Somalia today? Kudos to Puntland and to the oil companies that deal with them directly. No naked person can clothe another. When the so called President cannot walk 1 km without escorts from Ugandan Forces, He has no place to dictate to others who have real Government institutions who actually Govern.
Today Somalia is under the Federal system including the 4.5 system hence why things are not progressing much.

Nothing kudos about Puntland dealing with oil companies directly? Are you mad? Are you instigating for oil war? You need to f-king know the role of federal states and government.

Puntland is not a government it is just a administration, they have no capacity to be called a government. What is next? Puntland to appoint ambassadors to the rest of the world to represent Puntland? You have zero mentality.


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Childish remarks debate like a man or remain silent. :|
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XimanJaale wrote:Childish remarks debate like a man or remain silent. :|

Speaking for everybody here We only care about Gedo, and our future as far as a fair and viable Jubbaland Where Marehan are at the forefront. Your weak Culusow propaganda is tiresome.
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The government of Somalia did NOT begin with Culusoow and it will NOT end with Culusoow. Gedo is part of Somalia care about it if you want, but a stable and peaceful Somalia is the goal of all sane Somalis.

Jubbaland and all these tribal states are nothing but obstacles for Somalia's pursue for development and respect. Only a narrow-minded and anti-intellect will focus on qabil so much. Somalia from all corners is a shithole and remain a shithole if Somalis continue with such mentality. All balkanised and ruled by neighbouring countries. No dignity whatsoever, they so occupied with ruling over other clans when they do not see that foreigners are ruling every inch of Somalia whilst the seas is being patrolled by international navies and their children are being fed by WFP.

Haye lets see how this so-called Jubbaland or other tribal states will bring back the dignity of Somalia.
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XimanJaale wrote:The government of Somalia did NOT begin with Culusoow and it will NOT end with Culusoow. Gedo is part of Somalia care about it if you want, but a stable and peaceful Somalia is the goal of all sane Somalis.

Jubbaland and all these tribal states are nothing but obstacles for Somalia's pursue for development and respect. Only a narrow-minded and anti-intellect will focus on qabil so much. Somalia from all corners is a shithole and remain a shithole if Somalis continue with such mentality. All balkanised and ruled by neighbouring countries. No dignity whatsoever, they so occupied with ruling over other clans when they do not see that foreigners are ruling every inch of Somalia whilst the seas is being patrolled by international navies and their children are being fed by WFP.

Haye lets see how this so-called Jubbaland or other tribal states will bring back the dignity of Somalia.

The Government of Somalia ended with the great MSB AUN.
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No it didn't and it will never end until Judgement day. A country without the existence of a government is a country lived by sub-humans that cannot unite and govern themselves. Hence the lawlessness and tribal states popping out. You and people with your vision are sub-humans. Most of Somalis are sub-humans, very sad.
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Murax wrote:
XimanJaale wrote:The government of Somalia did NOT begin with Culusoow and it will NOT end with Culusoow. Gedo is part of Somalia care about it if you want, but a stable and peaceful Somalia is the goal of all sane Somalis.

Jubbaland and all these tribal states are nothing but obstacles for Somalia's pursue for development and respect. Only a narrow-minded and anti-intellect will focus on qabil so much. Somalia from all corners is a shithole and remain a shithole if Somalis continue with such mentality. All balkanised and ruled by neighbouring countries. No dignity whatsoever, they so occupied with ruling over other clans when they do not see that foreigners are ruling every inch of Somalia whilst the seas is being patrolled by international navies and their children are being fed by WFP.

Haye lets see how this so-called Jubbaland or other tribal states will bring back the dignity of Somalia.

The Government of Somalia ended with the great MSB AUN.

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Khalid aka Hodan,

Kindly fuck off. It's people like you that pray for the downfall of Somalia every single day. You are a cuqdad filled sub-human and you not aware that you are your own enemy. Hating on Konfuur will not make Somaliland successful. Every inch of Somalia from Saylac to Ras Kamboni will remain a shithole until all Somalis cure themselves from the qabil disease.
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What is there to have cuqdad about Somalia ceased to exist post 1991 people envy something worth being envious about , its time u start living in the real world whats in Somalia is something that resembles a government on paper put together by international community even the constitution was drafted by European law makers the salary is paid by Norwegians the governmental buildings is being protected by AU troops pug nosed apes there is a UN chief called Nickolas kay who reports to the general assembly about Somalia fragile situation. There are no offices ministries there are no institutions there is no army there is all in all no rule of law there is a gang that calls it self damul jadiid who enrich themselves with contracts to their closest kin and relatives , Yusur abrar should ring a bell. No sovereignty no territorial control and IGAD a regional body has more influence, than the so called government. thats why Somalis value IGAD opinion more than the Mogadishu government regarding regional entities jubbaland bay and bakool state.
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