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Marques wrote:

Methylamine wrote:There's way too many hotels in Hargeisa that are all empty for the majority of the year. Half of those buildings could have been used as apartment complexes which generate stable income unlike these hotels, and would help sustain the ridiculous population growth of the city

They're anticipating a tourism boom in the country and want to call dibs on the £££...probably wasting their time though, unless oil is discovered or something of the like, the economy will move at a snails pace..

Even if oil is discovered it will take long time for exploration to commence. Since Somalia (all corners) is suffering from political deadlock.

Marques wrote:

Methylamine wrote:There's way too many hotels in Hargeisa that are all empty for the majority of the year. Half of those buildings could have been used as apartment complexes which generate stable income unlike these hotels, and would help sustain the ridiculous population growth of the city

They're anticipating a tourism boom in the country and want to call dibs on the £££...probably wasting their time though, unless oil is discovered or something of the like, the economy will move at a snails pace..

Unless they somehow transform and renovate them to world-class standards, most of these hotels will continue to cater to the summertime qurbajoog niche even if they discover oil.

The problem with Somali businessmen is that they lack creativity...most just copy what another businessman did. In Hargeisa, most of these hotels were built after Ambassador Hotel opened, those owners were thinking they would be just as successful as the owner of Ambassador. I recall some time ago, a building company opened a gas station/supermarket/restaurant in a certain part of the city and became very popular and successful. Later on some people made their own gas stations beside the first one. Today if you drive through that stretch of New Hargeisa you'll see at least 7 gas stations/supermarkets all beside each other lol.

The one in Djibouti is owned by Arabs. It cost millions of dollars.

Bubba Hotel hmm...is that the one near City Center? We used to own a shop there. It wasn't a hotel before.

Methylamine,

Yeah there are several hotels and petrol stations in New Hargeisa including Shiraaqle, Hamdi, Kaah and few others.

Hawdian wrote:The one in Djibouti is owned by Arabs. It cost millions of dollars.

Bubba Hotel hmm...is that the one near City Center? We used to own a shop there. It wasn't a hotel before.

Are you sure that is owned by a Arab? Because Kempinski is a German chain hotel.

Its Jewish chain hotels but I remember reading somewhere it was invested by Emirate Arabs. So maybe a franchise? There is one in Abu Dhabi too. The design is European with Arab influences. The original owner is Yahuut.

Hawdian wrote:Its Jewish chain hotels but I remember reading somewhere it was invested by Emirate Arabs. So maybe a franchise? There is one in Abu Dhabi too. The design is European with Arab influences. The original owner is Yahuut.

I was reading their wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kempinski

Either way its a beautiful hotel.

Foreign investment is not bad. Or franchising foreign companies.

Hawdian wrote:
Methylamine,

Yeah there are several hotels and petrol stations in New Hargeisa including Shiraaqle, Hamdi, Kaah and few others.

Yeah those plus Gaafane, Dar As Salam and a few others. It would have been wiser of them to open them in different areas where there is a high traffic of vehicles and fewer competitors

Gaafane, Total and few others line up the other side (Boqoljire iyo Shacabka). I miss that place. Damn!! Gaafane is the biggest one right now and there is big money in petrol sxb.

Hargeisa goes in three main directions so they line up these main roads....to Berbera (new Hargeisa), to Ethiopia (Boqoljire) and to the airport (Calamadaha).

We need to open the other two sides they are no main roads especially to 150.

Gaafane is definitely the most modern looking one, but Kaah offers the most in my opinion. You can fill up and clean your car, do your groceries, have dinner and entertain the kids all in one sitting at Kaah.

Petrol is definitely booming but the government needs to regulate that ish. I don't understand how they get away with charging $1/liter a fuel...Americans pay less than reer Hargeisa

Hawdian, my dad was in Hargeisa last month, they're paving a lot of the roads in the suburbs/outskirts of the city. The road to 150ka is paved

Methylamine wrote:

Marques wrote:

Methylamine wrote:There's way too many hotels in Hargeisa that are all empty for the majority of the year. Half of those buildings could have been used as apartment complexes which generate stable income unlike these hotels, and would help sustain the ridiculous population growth of the city

They're anticipating a tourism boom in the country and want to call dibs on the £££...probably wasting their time though, unless oil is discovered or something of the like, the economy will move at a snails pace..

Unless they somehow transform and renovate them to world-class standards, most of these hotels will continue to cater to the summertime qurbajoog niche even if they discover oil.

The problem with Somali businessmen is that they lack creativity...most just copy what another businessman did. In Hargeisa, most of these hotels were built after Ambassador Hotel opened, those owners were thinking they would be just as successful as the owner of Ambassador. I recall some time ago, a building company opened a gas station/supermarket/restaurant in a certain part of the city and became very popular and successful. Later on some people made their own gas stations beside the first one. Today if you drive through that stretch of New Hargeisa you'll see at least 7 gas stations/supermarkets all beside each other lol.

JigJiga yar/shacabka? Or Calaamada? Or New Hargeisa ?

Kaah offers a lot but his offer heads are also high. Some things are unnecessary. In the long term the simple guy is the one that is going to last in this highly competitive industry.

Kaah will eventually replace some of their businesses with the lucrative one...not enough space to expand.

People in SL charge whatever they want because there are no regulations. Here in OZ we have a gov institution called Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). They can fine anyone who is over prizing or involved in price fixing. I know in the US they have such institutions but in SL hell no.

ACCC is very powerful institution, they can literally close your business.

SL needs regulations in every damn industry. The most exploited one is probably education, motorists, telecoms,

Methylamine..have you noticed that 5 liters can last a long time in Hargeisa..that's one gallon and a quarter..that shit would only take me from my apartment to the entrance of my freeway. I can trust one gallon on my car..


Btw, Kaah got burned recently..that place was my chilling spot...use to disappear in their tropical garden to have a latte and a free wi-fi in the evening

Hawdian wrote:Kaah offers a lot but his offer heads are also high. Some things are unnecessary. In the long term the simple guy is the one that is going to last in this highly competitive industry.

Kaah will eventually replace some of their businesses with the lucrative one...not enough space to expand.

People in SL charge whatever they want because there are no regulations. Here in OZ we have a gov institution called Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). They can fine anyone who is over prizing or involved in price fixing. I know in the US they have such institutions but in SL hell no.

ACCC is very powerful institution, they can literally close your business.

SL needs regulations in every damn industry. The most exploited one is probably education, motorists, telecoms,

Here in the states it's called the FTC..that's if we are talking abt consumer protection

Hawdian wrote:Kaah offers a lot but his offer heads are also high. Some things are unnecessary. In the long term the simple guy is the one that is going to last in this highly competitive industry.

Kaah will eventually replace some of their businesses with the lucrative one...not enough space to expand.

People in SL charge whatever they want because there are no regulations. Here in OZ we have a gov institution called Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). They can fine anyone who is over prizing or involved in price fixing. I know in the US they have such institutions but in SL hell no.

ACCC is very powerful institution, they can literally close your business.

SL needs regulations in every damn industry. The most exploited one is probably education, motorists, telecoms,

This. I could go on for days about how the education "system" (if you can even consider an existing one) is a joke, or how you can't call between different mobile carriers.

Mrkutiiriye wrote:Methylamine..have you noticed that 5 liters can last a long time in Hargeisa..that's one gallon and a quarter..that shit would only take me from my apartment to the entrance of my freeway. I can trust one gallon on my car..


Btw, Kaah got burned recently..that place was my chilling spot...use to disappear in their tropical garden to have a latte and a free wi-fi in the evening

You have to also consider that there isn't a huge distance between places in Hargeisa compared to here in North America. From one relative's house in Guryosamo to another in Shacabka, I would clock 4km on the odometer, though it would take me minimum 20 minutes to get there on a good day.

Kaah was on fire, but it was only the supermarket that was hit hard...the restaurant and park were unaffected. But yeah $200K in damages is no joke.