A THREAT TO THE EXISTENCE OF SOMALIS IN THE HORN OF AFRICA?

[Kukri]

I believe there is something.
Not because of the article alone but also an interview Fozia Xaaji Aden gave recently.
She mentioned the fact that the population of our two neighbours been something like 150 millions,
the resources in our land and sea. the numbers of bantus in Somalia working and living there (although they ain't great number)
how its just the start and Somalis should wake up and get their affairs in order.

soon there will be Somali kids named...wandhasan jaamac and Mugaabi mohamad.

I haven't read the whole article but skimming through that interview came to mind.


Using Jabuuti as an excuse made me laugh.
Somaliland recognition will be the end of Jabuuti.
Cos Eretrea will come and claim it...Yea right

[Chinaman]

I believe there is something.
Not because of the article alone but also an interview Fozia Xaaji Aden gave recently.
She mentioned the fact that the population of our two neighbours been something like 150 millions,
the resources in our land and sea. the numbers of bantus in Somalia working and living there (although they ain't great number)
how its just the start and Somalis should wake up and get their affairs in order.

soon there will be Somali kids named...wandhasan jaamac and Mugaabi mohamad.

Population of Bantus in Somalia is likely above 2 million mate.

You hear 15%-20%. That might not sound a lot but think about this,

Take out the Northern self governing areas some of which like Somaliland likely would never join Somalia proper
ever again & you're left with a potentially
35-40% Bantu population for the proper south.

Now that is insane and much more of a real bloody threat than any neighbouring Oromo group lol
Thats as much as the Afars in Djibouti afaik.

Its a joke how no one takes this seriously.

[Kukri]

When i say bantu am not talking about somali bantus but those that went there after the fall of the last regime.

What agenda would a politician like Fozia Xaaji Aaden has to make up such claims?
She is in government, and she saw and knows things that made her speak the way she did.

Even if the writer of the article has a hidden angle whats Fozia's reason.
I bought what she was saying and will give her the benefit of the doubt.
She is a mother, waa Soomali, waa Muslim
waana Isaq which is a bonus as far as what to believe is concerned.

So, i have no problem seeing the Article as FAQASH PROPAGANDA.
But Fozia,...I BELIEVE!

[thegoodshepherd]

Population of Bantus in Somalia is likely above 2 million mate.
You hear 15%-20%. That might not sound a lot but think about this,
Take out the Northern self governing areas some of which like Somaliland likely would never join Somalia proper
ever again & you're left with a potentially
35-40% Bantu population for the proper south.
Now that is insane and much more of a real bloody threat than any neighbouring Oromo group lol
Thats as much as the Afars in Djibouti afaik.
Its a joke how no one takes this seriously.

The bantus in Somalia are weak, even if they all unite they will never be able to even take on a small somali sub-clan
You worry too much about them, they have no power, none at all.

[Kukri]

The somali bantu are not weak and are somali.

We talking bantuga shisheeye.

[Chinaman]

The bantus in Somalia are weak, even if they all unite they will never be able to even take on a small somali sub-clan
You worry too much about them, they have no power, none at all.

Yep we should all just accept a potential 60% majority Jareer population in Southern Somalia as a possibility if current riverine area's growths continue. Might as well change the name Somalia to something while we're at it, cause it wouldn't be representative of the population.

How do you people ever accept the potential to be a minority in our own land without any worry? makes no sense to me.

I don't care what they are or the're political significance, its more about the preservation of the Somali people for me.

Hopefully if my model for the break up of Somalia in the future happens we would still be good. If not, then we're effed. I hope it does.

[Chinaman]

The somali bantu are not weak and are somali.

We talking bantuga shisheeye.

Are the Afars in Djibouti Somali? I mean they are after all awfully a lot more closer to ethnic Somalis than former Tanzanians brought to our shores by Arabs. Kulaha Somali, da fuck you think Somali is? Some open shit anyone can join. Next thing you know, the'll be a qoloo called reer Chinese. Somali is an ethnic group, that's the bloody reason your French colonised ass is Somali despite being from a country called Djibouti. Clearly it isn't connected to just being a citizen of Somalia.

[Kukri]

Are the Afar in Djibuti Somali? I mean they are after all awfully a lot more closer to ethnic Somalis than former Tanzanians brought to our shores by Arabs. Kulaha Somali, da fuck you think Somali is? Some open shit anyone can join. Next thing you know, the'll be reer Chinese. Somali is an ethnic group, that's the bloody reason your French colonised ass is Somali despite being from a country called Djibouti. Clearly it isn't connected to just being a citizen of Somalia.

I don't need you to tell me the difference between the nationality iyo ethnicity but who are you to deny Somali bantu their rights?
They might not be Ethnic Somalis but they have as much right as the next farax in that land.

What do suggest?
Get rid-off all Somali Bantus from the land.

sxb ciil bah ku haya but its misplaced.
Somali bantu are not responsible for the sewer Somalia has turned into.

[theyuusuf143]

The author thinks ethiopia is some kind of super power , actually somaliland is planning to take hawd as soon as ethiopia gets into civil war which will defenitley happen very soon. ogadens and isse will do the same. infact somalis are more threat to ethiopian sovereignty. even if ethiopia remains like the way its today we somalis have nothing to loose we are even more stronger and united under ethiopian flag and may take large parts of of addis ababa it self.

at the other hand somalia will end very soon, somalia is failed state not functioning any more. the author mentioned that jabuuti may claim awdal and sool may turn against somaliland, well its happening now in sool, but, unlike somalia somaliland is capable of cracking down on its rebels and we will keep doing so. in awdal as long as samaroon dominates the region jabuuti is not threat to somaliland sovereignty.

[Chinaman]

I don't need you to tell me the difference between the nationality iyo ethnicity but who are you to deny Somali bantu their rights?
They might not be Ethnic Somalis but they have as much right as the next farax in that land.

What do suggest?
Get rid-off all Somali Bantus from the land.

I don't know, I'm not a horrible person so I'm torn. Perhaps they should be introduced to contraception and other forms of birth control so that they slow down breeding so much. Why do you think its always these communities that you see in bad conditions in Somalia in camps and stuff?
Each family has over 10 kids and they have an unsustainable growth rate. They were very small in pre-civil war Somalia, today they are everywhere in droves.

I'm sorry but basically you can't be in a camp begging for food with 9 kids and then be popping out even more bloody kids whilst the other 9 are barely surviving & are only doing so because of human generosity. How retarded is that? smh There's other communities in Somalia like that as well like Raxanweyns but the Bantu are the biggest folks like that.

[Kukri]

I don't know, I'm not a horrible person so I'm torn. Perhaps they should be introduced to contraception and other forms of birth control so that they slow down breeding so much. Why do you think its always these communities that you see in bad conditions in Somalia in camps and stuff?
Each family has over 10 kids and they have an unsustainable growth rate. They were very small in pre-civil war Somalia, today they are everywhere in droves.

I'm sorry but basically you can't be in a camp begging for food with 9 kids and then be popping out even more bloody kids whilst the other 9 are barely surviving & are only doing so because of human generosity. How retarded is that? smh There's other communities in Somalia like that as well like Raxanweyns but the Bantu are the biggest folks like that.

kinda like the Nazi eugenic plans to create a "master race" of Fit faraxs?

On who's authority exactly will you be introducing this plan?
Diin iyo dhaqan midna inoo ma fasaxayo what you propagating
So where does this God-complex of yours come from?

[Chinaman]

kinda like the Nazi eugenic plans to create a "master race" of Fit faraxs?

On who's authority exactly will you be introducing this plan?
Diin iyo dhaqan midna inoo ma fasaxayo what you propagating
So where does this God-complex of yours come from?

Huh? Not at all mate, you misunderstood me. All I'm suggesting is that communities who can't take care of themselves whilst at the same time are popping babies like crazy should be introduced to birth control and birth planning as a way to manage things like that because at the end of the day, this is unsustainable. Otherwise aid should be stopped to irresponsible people like that.

You're a cunt to me if you're continuing to have babies whilst the rest of your children are barely surviving on the generosity of others (through means like begging & food aid). Others shouldn't be bearing the responsibility of your stupidity like that.

Anyway another proposal is for Somalia to be split which I believe is going to happen. If we have Somaliland and maybe possibly Puntland and also Djibouti & Eastern Ethiopia we'll be fine. Southern Somalia will be mixed albeit majority Somali as well.

[whitehartlane]

You guys missed the entire point of the article. The author's proposal is not a thought based on a potential military threat from ethiopia and kenya. Its the thought of having 400 million Ethiopians and kenyans next door. It may never come down to a war.


1) somalia has abundance in various resources. With exceptional location of the land geographically.
2) in todays world there are more somalis living outside somalia than inside somalia proper.
3) we are already fragmented into several mini countries inside one delusional country.
4) we are constantly at war with each other over petty affairs.
5)The south litterally has the foundation for potential take over based on numbers by the bantu.
6) in the northern part specifically the two larest and most productive cities in bosaso and hargeysa we have oromo's roaming the streets as if they are in addis.

Djibouti and potentially Somaliland and Puntland are already clan enclaves influenced and dictated by foreigners.

Galmudug, Jubaland, BayBakoolShabeele state and potentially Hiiraanland are all in the process of following the above mentioned somali lands.

Mogadishu administration doesnt exist besides on paper. Its an administration solely created so certain foreign parties can achieve whether achievements that couldn't be achieved otherwise.

We honestly need to reassess our situation, we have been misled, lied to by non other than those clan leaders we hold dear.

I say change the flag, change the constitution, change the capital. Start with a brand new start as if its the 1960's all over again.

Walahi being isaaq majeerteen habar gidir abgaal mareexaan ogaden does not benefit our future. And our natural tribal hate for one and another should not blind us.


Upon reading this article one has to ask him/herself is their a potential threat to our land in the near future, are bickerings over petty stuff worth the future threat?

[abdikarim86]

Shitty Faqash propaganda

[Based]

Ethiopia will have 1.6 billion by the year 2100—that is in 86 years. And that is only on one side of the Somali border.

Judging from other population growth estimates I've looked at, I think the author's estimates are based on an assumption of increasing birth rates which doesn't seem likely. Nevertheless, most estimates range from half to nearly a billion Ethiopians with Somalis barely reaching 50 million. We're obviously losing the demographic war, but I guess our epically laangaab (and soon to be extinct) descendants can comfort themselves with knowing their ancestors were mythological Arabian warriors who definitely did not talk or act like that vile clan next door, eat carrion, farm, smith, or whatever else our culture apparently thinks is ignoble