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Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:22 pm
by thegoodshepherd
waraabe251 wrote:in somalia
We were talking about qabil and this guy had the audacity to say some Hutu sub-clan was larger than Ogaden.
Ogaden which is the same size as Hawiye, and four times the size of idoor.
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:35 pm
by flyWOODY
this is y I hate arguing with darods garisa county is 500,000 people n not everyone there is ogaden. all nfd is less than 2 million. Darod r not the only ones who live in nfd. im not arguing with u no more u r so childish if u think ogaden is everyone in nfd n galbeed theres no point in debating with u its a waste od my time
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:37 pm
by waraabe251
flyWOODY wrote:this is y I hate arguing with darods garisa county is 500,000 people n not everyone there is ogaden. all nfd is less than 2 million. Darod r not the only ones who live in nfd. im not arguing with u no more u r so childish if u think ogaden is everyone in nfd n galbeed theres no point in debating with u its a waste od my time
dont waste your time sxb, see how he changed the subject when you said that abgal is larger then cagdheer in somalia
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:44 pm
by thegoodshepherd
flyWOODY wrote:this is y I hate arguing with darods garisa county is 500,000 people n not everyone there is ogaden. all nfd is less than 2 million. Darod r not the only ones who live in nfd. im not arguing with u no more u r so childish if u think ogaden is everyone in nfd n galbeed theres no point in debating with u its a waste od my time
Total BS, Garissa county is 700,000 people and it is Pure Ogaden. Forget about Garissa, but wajir county which also has a population of 700,000 is 30% Ogaden which is 200,000.
Ogaden in Garissa=700,000+Ogaden in Wajir=200,000 for a
total OG popultation of 900,000 in NFD ALONE
Ogaden in NFD ALONE are larger than the biggest hawiye subclan.
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:49 pm
by Khalid Ali
NFD is not only Ogaden it also has garre degodia warday and other clans
Besides we were talking about 4.5 80% of Ogaden territories are in Ethiopia , so their demographics will not help you in Somalia
I believe in Somalia
Hawiye is number one including xawaadle and gaaljecel
Second digil and Mirifle
3rd is Darood
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:59 pm
by thegoodshepherd
Khalid Ali wrote:NFD is not only Ogaden it also has garre degodia warday and other clans
Besides we were talking about 4.5 80% of Ogaden territories are in Ethiopia , so their demographics will not help you in Somalia
I believe in Somalia
Hawiye is number one including xawaadle and gaaljecel
Second digil and Mirifle
3rd is Darood
If you know anything about NFD then you would know that all of Garissa county and half of Wajir county are pure Ogaden and are not shared at all.
All other clans live in North wajir and mandera.
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:11 am
by SecretAgent
Khalid Ali wrote:NFD is not only Ogaden it also has garre degodia warday and other clans
Besides we were talking about 4.5 80% of Ogaden territories are in Ethiopia , so their demographics will not help you in Somalia
I believe in Somalia
Hawiye is number one including xawaadle and gaaljecel
Second digil and Mirifle
3rd is Darood
Mjs and isaaq same size habar awals and cumar maxamuds biggest amongst them issa maxamud and habar jeclo the small sub clans ciidagle vs cali salebaans about same size this makes darods 1st or 2nd largest
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:16 am
by SecretAgent
thegoodshepherd wrote:flyWOODY wrote:this is y I hate arguing with darods garisa county is 500,000 people n not everyone there is ogaden. all nfd is less than 2 million. Darod r not the only ones who live in nfd. im not arguing with u no more u r so childish if u think ogaden is everyone in nfd n galbeed theres no point in debating with u its a waste od my time
Total BS, Garissa county is 700,000 people and it is Pure Ogaden. Forget about Garissa, but wajir county which also has a population of 700,000 is 30% Ogaden which is 200,000.
Ogaden in Garissa=700,000+Ogaden in Wajir=200,000 for a
total OG popultation of 900,000 in NFD ALONE
Ogaden in NFD ALONE are larger than the biggest hawiye subclan.
Dude your wrong abgaal is 2.5 million HG is 900,000 plus duduble dont forget karanle 250,000
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:39 am
by FarhanYare
xaliye123 wrote:Xaaraan weeye 4,5.
Waxay ahayd in lagu Qaybsado sida xalaasha ah ee 2,5 Dir iyo Daarood inta soo hadhana loo qaybiyo 0,5 ka.
Qofka saa yiiri on another thread mataqanahee:
Hawiye sxb waa gobta somaliyeed
Ar umadaan inda adkaa.. waa gob kulaha hadana waa asaga aan waxba uu ogaleen 0.5 ku daray
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:23 am
by xaliye123
FarhanYare wrote:xaliye123 wrote:Xaaraan weeye 4,5.
Waxay ahayd in lagu Qaybsado sida xalaasha ah ee 2,5 Dir iyo Daarood inta soo hadhana loo qaybiyo 0,5 ka.
Qofka saa yiiri on another thread mataqanahee:
Hawiye sxb waa gobta somaliyeed
Ar umadaan inda adkaa.. waa gob kulaha hadana waa asaga aan waxba uu ogaleen 0.5 ku daray
Sxb qof walba oo somaliya wuu ogyahay 4,5 inay xaraan tahay, e xaad iigu fiirsanhee eebow.
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:28 am
by waraabe251
SecretAgent wrote:Khalid Ali wrote:NFD is not only Ogaden it also has garre degodia warday and other clans
Besides we were talking about 4.5 80% of Ogaden territories are in Ethiopia , so their demographics will not help you in Somalia
I believe in Somalia
Hawiye is number one including xawaadle and gaaljecel
Second digil and Mirifle
3rd is Darood
Mjs and isaaq same size habar awals and cumar maxamuds biggest amongst them issa maxamud and habar jeclo the small sub clans ciidagle vs cali salebaans about same size this makes darods 1st or 2nd largest
Sacad muse only in SL is 700,000 and all of puntland is 600,000
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:30 am
by SecretAgent
4.5 is bad for issaqs cus it gives them 28 mps instead of 61 also its bad for darods it makes them langaab 4.5 is good for hawiye and eleys before 4.5 eleys only had 1 or 2 mps and zero ministers jus deputy they were given now they are a powerhouse in the south
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:39 am
by SecretAgent
waraabe251 wrote:SecretAgent wrote:Khalid Ali wrote:NFD is not only Ogaden it also has garre degodia warday and other clans
Besides we were talking about 4.5 80% of Ogaden territories are in Ethiopia , so their demographics will not help you in Somalia
I believe in Somalia
Hawiye is number one including xawaadle and gaaljecel
Second digil and Mirifle
3rd is Darood
Mjs and isaaq same size habar awals and cumar maxamuds biggest amongst them issa maxamud and habar jeclo the small sub clans ciidagle vs cali salebaans about same size this makes darods 1st or 2nd largest
Sacad muse only in SL is 700,000 and all of puntland is 600,000
no census count by sland govt yet but no doubt HA are most landhere along ogs,mjs
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:02 am
by Amirsade
The systems of government itself is haram, 4.5 was design for this already weak government to fail.
Re: 4.5 is an incredibly messed up concept
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:56 pm
by FarhanYare
xaliye123 wrote:FarhanYare wrote:xaliye123 wrote:Xaaraan weeye 4,5.
Waxay ahayd in lagu Qaybsado sida xalaasha ah ee 2,5 Dir iyo Daarood inta soo hadhana loo qaybiyo 0,5 ka.
Qofka saa yiiri on another thread mataqanahee:
Hawiye sxb waa gobta somaliyeed
Ar umadaan inda adkaa.. waa gob kulaha hadana waa asaga aan waxba uu ogaleen 0.5 ku daray
Sxb qof walba oo somaliya wuu ogyahay 4,5 inay xaraan tahay, e xaad iigu fiirsanhee eebow.
war inee fair tahay aniga kuma weydiin soowta adiga leh 2.5 for darood, 2 for dir and the rest 0.5 bal isku noqo halmar