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Re: Stockholm- it's not a coincidence!

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Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:
Have you seen king Zlatan in person? Them girls bro I heard wa xurul Cayn ma runba? Talk to me breh.
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I'm planning to visit London in December and I'm hoping to stop by Stockholm too. Marx, hope you're in town when I visit inshaAllah.
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SummerRain, Soo dhowow.
I travel alot. If I am not in town, I will certainly provide you with directions on places to visit.

BTW; the somali areas in Stockholms are not that good when compared to other parts. I wrote this awhile back. From a global context, however, these areas are posh .
Hi folks!

Sweden is regularly mentioned for being a country that has succeeded in creating a welfare state for its citizens. Although it is a large country with low population density and harsh wintery conditions, It is not an exaggeration to say that it is the envy of many nations; very peaceful country with an industrial base that is global and a social democratic legacy which condemned human rights abuses, apartheid and condoned egalitarian equity of resources and representation.

Its capital, Stockholm, is very stunning and surrounded by water. In fact, Stockholm is located on several islands. Public transport works and it is a multicultural town because of the influx of immigrants. The immigrant population has seen its fair share of dynamics; in the sixties thousands of immigrants were recruited from Yugoslavia, Turkey, Italy and Greece to work in the booming manufacturing industries. In the late 70s thousands of refugees came from Vietnam and Iran arrived. Later on somalis claiming to come from Western Somalia came and in the nineties there was an influx of refugees from Somalia proper.

Although the level of tolerance on the parts of the Swedes has been on the decline (a trend in the whole of liberal Europe) in recent decades, Sweden remains one of the countries in the west where somalis are welcome.

Statistics on the population of Somalis in Sweden is scanty but it is estimated that there are more than 60 000 Somalis. The somalis who came to Sweden came in different periods; in the late 80s it was people wanting to work; in the 1990s it was the middle class who had the means and minds to come. In the 2000 Sweden became home to traumatised somalis who witnessed the atrocious effects of the civil war (mainly somalis who show the symptoms of buufis).

In this peaceful country an event took place in the 1970s which provided a conceptual tool for students of psychology and psychiatrist . the Stockholm Syndrome. The background of this symptom is a bank robbery in the heart of Stockholm where an infamous bank robber took bank clerks as hostages. After a few days of captivity the hostages bonded with their captives.


Ever since the term was coined by the Swedish psychiatrist Dr. Bejerot, it has become the Frau für alle (german for the wife of everyone) i.e. a concept that is used to describe a phenomenon in which the supposed victim bonds with the victimizer. You could see this in several internet forums where tribalism is permeated and diffused by Somalis from regions who were diverse

How does the Stockholm syndrome manifest itself in Somalis?

From a Somali context, the Stockholm syndrome concept could be used to describe a myriad of phenomena that have characterised us; for instance, the culture of warlordism, the culture of corruption and other institutional ills that has become embedded in our thought system.

For instance, in the good old days Somalis in general and the people from Banaadir, in particular were known for their workmanship and tolerance. Loitering on the streets, playing daba-ka-eri and dumnad etc was done when you made the shillings through hardwork! The saying “nimaan shaqeeysinin shaah ma cabo” was a testimony of this conventional wisdom.which embodied our societal institutional mode. Terms such as “dhoore” “lamagoodle” “reer koraad” etc were devised to identify those amongst us who enticed a discourse scheme inept on earning easy money instead of sweating to make money. Terms such daba-dhilifs, af minshaars, shaxaad and mashaqeeyste did not come out of vacuum but to characterise the lazy parasites who fed on the sweat of the hardworking.

Your correspondent loves Sweden; not only because of the maasha allah blondes but because of its contemporary history of tolerance towards others and its role in welcoming Somalis at a time when our people are described using negative adjectives.


Stockholm- the capital of Scandinavia as it is branded- is where most Somalis live even though cities such as Gothenburg, Malmo, Orebro and Vasteras have substantial number of Somalis.'

In Stockholm, Somalis usually live in a suburb in the northern part. The triangle of Tensta, Rinkeby and Kista is where you may find Somalis at every corner. The Tensta and Rinkeby areas contain housing estates from the late 60s and seventies; the so called Million programme areas which was a construction scheme devised and implemented by the then social democratic government to ensure decent living for the working class. Kista is rather different. It contains housing complexes, relative high-rise office buildings which houses the successful Swedish ICT cluster. In fact, an anthropologist friend of your correspondent wrote a working paper a few years ago on the paradox and contrast of Kista; at the subway station in the morning and afternoon rush hours . Leaving Kista in the morning are the working class immigrants while the white middle class that work in the ICT sector ascends from trains. In the afternoon, the picture is reversed; immigrants coming to Kista and indigenous Swedes leaving it. The major point of interaction is the shopping galleria which also contains several restaurants that serve global dishes.

You have to visit Tensta and Rinkeby to notice the Stockholm syndrome at work. The latter in particular is a manifestation of the Stockholm syndrome of “passivity” . Outside the tube/subway station a natural sight is the dozens and dozens of Somali men smoking. In a kind of synchronised loud voices and gesticulations you might be fooled into thinking that this is a scene from Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice or Verdi’s Aida, La Traviata, Otello, Rigoletto and Falstaff combined.

You will meet a few men who are waiting for today’s delivery of Qaad (quud awliyo); a few men who talk fadhi ku dirir politics of reer jaahil and reer jinni; a few that are victims of buufis whose applications did not go through because their fingerprints were discovered in the data base of Dublin convention. You might also see a few that look pious- ger dhuubs who look like Afghani/Pakistani (yes, I know Alpha you think I am anti-wadaads!).

Where is Cambaro? Qaali Luula? Maano maceey? Where is my xusul baruur, my nimcatul fushuuq? Nada! You can’t find them! I ask around; women cannot fare out I am told because of “xishood”.

I meet a few men at the scene and exchange a few words. Why are you people gathered here? What are you celebrating? Are you organizing some demonstration? The answers I get bewilders me; almost simultaneously “waxba laguma haayo meeshaan” “caruurta unban ku korsanaa!” Maxaa dhacay shaqo malaha miyaa your correspondent asks? A few said meesha waa shaqo la’aan but there was a unanimous verdict; shaqo maxaan ku falaa! Meeshaan haddii la shaqeeyo iyo haddii kale waa isku mid. Ceyrtaasi ayaan iska qaadanaa oo aan caruurta ku korsanaa!

Holly marqaan! If someone would have said that in Somalia a few decades ago, they could be lynched, called names and their brethren confined to a life on the margins. A man saying I don’t want to work is the epitome of nacasnimo! The problem is in the structure of the welfare state which ensures equity. There are generous benefit handouts to families with children which surpasses the income of the hardworking middle class. Economists call this incentive. Human beings they argue respond to incentives.

I have seen Piaza di Garibaldi in Naples (Naabooli as somalis will say), various meeting places in London (Streatham, Southall, Woodgreen, and East London), Weston and Lawrence/Finch (or even Dixon), I have seen malls in Minneapolis and Ohio in the USA but I have yet to see a place like Rinkeby in Stockholm.
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Re: Stockholm- it's not a coincidence!

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garoweboy wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:
Have you seen king Zlatan in person? Them girls bro I heard wa xurul Cayn ma runba? Talk to me breh.
Yes once from a distance though. LOL they are iight compared to girls from other european countries. Aniga waaka so daalay tho. Nothing beats xaliimos trust me fam. 8-)
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Warsheekh wrote:
garoweboy wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:
Have you seen king Zlatan in person? Them girls bro I heard wa xurul Cayn ma runba? Talk to me breh.
Yes once from a distance though. LOL they are iight compared to girls from other european countries. Aniga waaka so daalay tho. Nothing beats xaliimos trust me fam. 8-)
Lol I feel you bro wa runta cadaans got nothing on our Xaliimos. :ahh:
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Marx
Thanks! I have plenty of family in the area but I'll let you know iA.
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Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:

Helsingborg är bättre, jag hatar stora städer.
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salool wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:

Helsingborg är bättre, jag hatar stora städer.
stockholm är riktigt nice. Ska flytta dit snart. Det är alltid liv där finns alltid något att göra. Det enda negativa är att folket är stressade hela tiden. Har hört att helsingborg är en bra stad aldrig varit där tidigare dock.
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Warsheekh wrote:
salool wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:my capital :blessed:

Helsingborg är bättre, jag hatar stora städer.
stockholm är riktigt nice. Ska flytta dit snart. Det är alltid liv där finns alltid något att göra. Det enda negativa är att folket är stressade hela tiden. Har hört att helsingborg är en bra stad aldrig varit där tidigare dock.
Jag trodde du trivdes bland bönderna, hur kan du svika småland?

Att hitta en lägenhet i Stockholm är helt omöjligt.Har aldrig bott där men varit där några gånger.Göteborg, stockholm och Malmö, vill jag bara stanna några dagar men aldrig bo.Mindre städer må vara tråkiga men där trivs jag bäst.

Men hursomhelst lycka till.
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lol verkligen inte att jag trivs i småstäder jag hamnade här för bara en anledning. Hitta lägenhet och så är inget problem för mig har ordnat allting. Alla är väl olika vissa trivs i småstäder och vissa i storstäder. :)
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Jag har bott Stockholm sen 1993. och förre Stockholm jag har bott ett år i Kiruna och ett år i Skellefteå. Jag har aldrig varit Göteborg. Malmö jag har varit bara engång. , Sababta Det var när mitt bil blev Stulen och after några dagar polisen hittat mitt bilen parkerat nånstans i Malmö- Jag åkte ditt för att hämta bilen , och nästan alla städer i norrland har har varit.Jag har bott Sverige mer än jag har bott Somalia.. Om ni undrar . Jag komm Sverige en kall höst dag 30 Oktober 1990 jag och min Stora bror.. :up:
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Warsheekh wrote:lol verkligen inte att jag trivs i småstäder jag hamnade här för bara en anledning. Hitta lägenhet och så är inget problem för mig har ordnat allting. Alla är väl olika vissa trivs i småstäder och vissa i storstäder. :)
Tro mig, du kommer att sakna de nyanlända som gjorde livet surt för alla..hoppas hela högen flyttar till Stockholm.Jag har fått nog av det här folket och det värsta är, de har tagit över alla små städer.

Ja, ja..det är bara att undvika dom.

En lägenhet redan?..har du nästlat dig in hos en garoob eller :lol:
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Jag har bott Stockholm sen 1993. och förre Stockholm jag har bott ett år i Kiruna och ett år i Skellefteå. Jag har aldrig varit Göteborg. Malmö jag har varit bara engång. , Sababta Det var när mitt bil blev Stulen och after några dagar polisen hittat mitt bilen parkerat nånstans i Malmö- Jag åkte ditt för att hämta bilen , och nästan alla städer i norrland har har varit.Jag har bott Sverige mer än jag har bott Somalia.. Om ni undrar . Jag komm Sverige en kall höst dag 30 Oktober 1990 jag och min Stora bror.. :up:
lol. saaxiib du måste bort från västerort.Din svenska bör vara bättre om du har bott här i 24 år. :lol:


jag skojar bara
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salool wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:lol verkligen inte att jag trivs i småstäder jag hamnade här för bara en anledning. Hitta lägenhet och så är inget problem för mig har ordnat allting. Alla är väl olika vissa trivs i småstäder och vissa i storstäder. :)
Tro mig, du kommer att sakna de nyanlända som gjorde livet surt för alla..hoppas hela högen flyttar till Stockholm.Jag har fått nog av det här folket och det värsta är, de har tagit över alla små städer.

Ja, ja..det är bara att undvika dom.

En lägenhet redan?..har du nästlat dig in hos en garoob eller :lol:
Jag har börjat acceptera dem hahah iaf några av dem.
En lägenhet redan?..har du nästlat dig in hos en garoob eller :lol:
:deadrose: varför just en garoob och inte en vanlig tjej? :MJ:
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I went to Gothenburg and Stockholm two years ago during the winter, it was boring, everyone stayed indoors cause of the cold, the people outside looked depressed and suicidal nobody interacted, met a nice Swedish girl in brunnsparken though, speaking english came handy
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