Has anyone ever been to Bosaso?

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what's even sadder is that they got more resources than both those countries

[STARKAST]

Nairobi is run by foreigners, Whites, Indians etc, even Somalis have a big stake there. Also all these foreigners are the enterprise and capitalist class. Xamar used to have this before the chimpout.
Somalia doesn't' have FDI. FDI built those towers. Your heart is in the right place, but we need to start with the basic. For example in Hargeisa, there is an absence of any reliable water supply. This affects 90% of the population, skylines will only benefit 10% of the population.

Diaspora building houses or hotels doesn't create wealth sxb. Exportation does. Somalis is the only country that exports live animals and doesn't have a Meat packing industry (here lies the profit). Problem 1.
What wealth do skylines bring ?
Also this saying ? How are Somalis a 'smarter' people ? Also is Somalia really richer than Kenya ?

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Nairobi is run by foreigners, Whites, Indians etc, even Somalis have a big stake there. Also all these foreigners are the enterprise and capitalist class. Xamar used to have this before the chimpout.
Somalia doesn't' have FDI. FDI built those towers. Your heart is in the right place, but we need to start with the basic. For example in Hargeisa, there is an absence of any reliable water supply. This affects 90% of the population, skylines will only benefit 10% of the population.

Diaspora building houses or hotels doesn't create wealth sxb. Exportation does. Somalis is the only country that exports live animals and doesn't have a Meat packing industry (here lies the profit). Problem 1.
What wealth do skylines bring ?
Also this saying ? How are Somalis a 'smarter' people ? Also is Somalia really richer than Kenya ?

you're right 100% Basics should be first. That's part of my job brother you cant build New York in one day.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Those flashy building are run by foreigners and expats. Mostly indian and western businesses. The average tanzanian and kenyan is out shining shoes for a living.

FDI is not what Somalia needs. Somalia needs a government comprised of homo sapiens instead of chimps who are only interested in short term gains at the expense of the country and the people. Somalis aren't smarter than a wet newspaper and Somalia is only wealthy in potential.

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Somalia needs a government comprised of homo sapiens instead of chimps

seriously though that's where people like me step in. These inbreds will eventually die out some point in the future but while they are still around we need to get hold of the smaller cities and places they dont give a shit about

[anzeloti]

Luanda during the civil war 1975-2002




Luanda 2014








So there is still a hope for Zoomalis

[STARKAST]

Yes basic services, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services which will in turn give your precious skylines. Yes one step at a time.

Firstly are you from Somalia or a clan state ? Don't flip flop every week, its confusing. Every country needs FDI, FDI, not in the IMF, world bank sense, but in the mutual beneficial sense.
The Xabasha renaissance dam was funded mostly funded by Xabasha bonds,taxpayers and Chinese loans. Foreign investment greatly increases local productivity growth. China the largest recipient of foreign direct investment, even though they do not hold IP rights to what they produce they still are booming, but this is basic.
Aid/remittances is a type of FDI, and Somalia is fuelled by it solely !
Luanda is example of unsustainable FDI. It is a the typical example of (Chinese) economic imperialism. Also remember its boomed in the same way Dubai has: oil, also whats worse here is that even the citizens are poor !
Nonetheless at least its at peace, but Luanda is exploitation !

Somalia won't develop due to its Culture, behaviour and institutions. Also lack of good governance.
Kenya and Tanzania have democratic and development-minded governments what does the xamar president have ?

Anyways, Xamar being a primate city isn't all that great. its better that other regional cities such as Bossaso, Hargeisa, Kismaayo, Jigiga, Djibouti develop too at their own paces !

[anzeloti]

Somalia won't develop due to its Culture, behaviour

Waa runtaa



Geeljire mentality,Nomad behavior (not caring about innovation) and above all TRIBALISM !

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they still live in 300 AD and they refuse to change an adapt to the fast changing world. No wonder they are suffering so much.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

FDI comes later. But at infant level the economy requires high levels of protectionism, government incentives financial and non-financial, high levels of tariffs on foreign goods and red-tape to protect the country and it's small businesses from exploitatio of foreign corporations. Right no Somalia doesn't have the money or big businesses to attract foreign corporations and money. They are only interested in our natural resources. But as Somalia grows and it starts to become tempting to invest, that's when these succkes and their followers come. They see another ln where they can get cheap labor and avoid taxes meanwhile sucking every dollar and cent out of the country. It's a racket, it's what they do. And Major organisations like the WB, the UN and IMF provide the muscle. They bully poor countries into opening their doors to these vampires.
China is no different now. They offer shoddy infrastructure projects in exchange for natural resources. Do you think China's boom years of the 80s and 90s involved FDI? No, it was a highly protectionist economy that relied on export growth. It has only recently opened it's doors to foreign companies, and after it layed the ground-work and legal safety-nets. Even now it's still very suspicious of foreign "investment".

Somalia is strategically placed in one of th most important trade corridors on earth. Somalia's natural resources dwarf it's neighbours', or so we're led to believe. And it has a growing new market on it's doorstep; Africa. A competent nation would turn Somalia into one of the wealthiest nations on earth. But we have the likes of qoslaaye and geriatric Siilanyo and the tribalists in Bari and the savage southerners etc. etc. etc.

[thegoodshepherd]

Bosaso will has already started to build up instead of sprawling. There is literally not much land left before you reach the mountains.
Bosaso will in 15 years time be very built up by Somali standards due to the land restrictions. The city will remain its current size but have to build up.
This actually very good for living standards because you can then provide roads, water, electricity to a smaller area than if it were sprawling.

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Bosaso will has already started to build up instead of sprawling. There is literally not much land left before you reach the mountains.
Bosaso will in 15 years time be very built up by Somali standards due to the land restrictions. The city will remain its current size but have to build up.
This actually very good for living standards because you can then provide roads, water, electricity to a smaller area than if it were sprawling.

I was given an idea to start with an empty board or a less crowded place like Berbera. this is a better option because Bosaso is already a very big city

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LiquidHYDROGEN you seem to hit the nail on the head most of the time , especially in topics like these . are you an Economist?

[anzeloti]

Somalia is strategically placed in one of th most important trade corridors on earth. Somalia's natural resources dwarf it's neighbours', or so we're led to believe. And it has a growing new market on it's doorstep; Africa. A competent nation would turn Somalia into one of the wealthiest nations on earth. But we have the likes of qoslaaye and geriatric Siilanyo and the tribalists in Bari and the savage southerners etc. etc. etc.

[STARKAST]

Yeah i agree with protectionism, IMF, world bank argue protectionism is akin to cancer, but the USA still subside their dairy farmers heavily, yet Africa etc are dictated in regards to their economy. IMF/worldbank are cancer.
They are only interested in our natural resources - Eritrea even attracts FDI - Italy built a clothing factory here and also (gedem) cement factory export to Qatar for world cup games. I think a strong leader can balance protectionism and FDI ! Somalia has none sadly.
Infrastructure projects in exchange for natural resources - Somalia should sell their resources for large projects, we haven't got the man power and technical know how to build a dam, xabasha one was built by Chinese. Even some British war ships are built in Italy A balance is needed in getting a fair deal, not in the way Nigera has in regards to their oil !
When Somalia transforms its Culture, behaviour then such mutual deals can be made, i guess we still are at a primordial state. however day by day somalia is getting left behind. World isn't out to get Africans, its the disunity that destroys us ! Ubi concordia, ibi victoria.

Tribalists in Bari ? Last time i checked isse muse hold a strangle hold on the most advanced port in Somalia ? Also 1 month ago we was tipped for 92-95 tribal war part 2, something unique in Somalia Silanyo isn't just old but thats for another story. nice try.

Bossaso land value will just increase and increase due to lack of space, this will mean only high quality development will take place here which is good
No point discussing economics when the whole Somali arena is dominated by tribalism and backwardness, we should tackle this. cooperation creates wealth.There are 2 currencies in Waqooyi, the definition of handicapness. Another elephant in the room.