Why should Mudug be divided into two? Federal camps so gala

[Osob101]

Buzz off XimaanXaare. Just because You want it to be a failure doesn't mean it is.

Just because you want it to work does not mean it will either. Puntland has already rejected it and so has Ximan Iyo Xeeb

[Murax]

I'm sure the consitution can be amended in this case, as the Central Regions HAVE to be Federated and there is simply no other way to do it. Puntland has spent 20 years building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob there not gonna just hand it over nor should they. At the same time HG a very important group in Somalia needs their own Federal Base, so that's Why its also important for them to have this State. Maybe this would make them happy with a VP position in the 3 region Southwest state.



Osob,

Puntland just wants assurances their districts have nothing to do with this State. As for Ximaan/Xeeb they are a 1 town administration, they won't be able to stop this.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

I'm sure the consitution can be amended in this case, as the Central Regions HAVE to be Federated and there is simply no other way to do it. Puntland has spent 20 years building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob there not gonna just hand it over nor should they. At the same time HG a very important group in Somalia needs their own Federal Base, so that's Why its also important for them to have this State. Maybe this would make them happy with a VP position in the 3 region Southwest state.



Osob,

Puntland just wants assurances their districts have nothing to do with this State. As for Ximaan/Xeeb they are a 1 town administration, they won't be able to stop this.

So the consitition can be amended just to suit Daroods but the rest of us hve to abide by it.

The Somali government has no choice but to follow the consitution and merge Mudug with Galgaduud otherwise Federalism is a faliure.

Already the UN has approved this deal. And it has become law.

Galkayo will be the federal capital of Central Somalia.

[Osob101]

I'm sure the consitution can be amended in this case, as the Central Regions HAVE to be Federated and there is simply no other way to do it. Puntland has spent 20 years building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob there not gonna just hand it over nor should they. At the same time HG a very important group in Somalia needs their own Federal Base, so that's Why its also important for them to have this State. Maybe this would make them happy with a VP position in the 3 region Southwest state.



Osob,

Puntland just wants assurances their districts have nothing to do with this State. As for Ximaan/Xeeb they are a 1 town administration, they won't be able to stop this.

So now you say the constitution must be amended, well it will be amended for Hiiraan, Khatumo, Awdal, etc etc and for every other creation than. The three Southwest state is just like this new scam, a creation with no power to enforce. Ximan and Xeeb might be a town to you but they control quite substantial land in both regions so don't take them very lightly. As for HG Abdiqeybdid does notrepresent them.

[thegoodshepherd]

Just because you want it to work does not mean it will either. Puntland has already rejected it and so has Ximan Iyo Xeeb

patently false. Puntland is in total suppourt of this deal. Galmudug, ahlusade wal cayr, and XX also agree that they must form a federal state. The disagreemenr is over who gets to rule said state

BTW, why are you against federalism??

[Osob101]

Just because you want it to work does not mean it will either. Puntland has already rejected it and so has Ximan Iyo Xeeb

patently false. Puntland is in total suppourt of this deal. Galmudug, ahlusade wal cayr, and XX also agree that they must form a federal state. The disagreemenr is over who gets to rule said state

You must be really slow to believe that Puntland would agree to give up their part of Mudug

[thegoodshepherd]

Give up our half??
no just south mudug and galgadud.
Puntland suppourts this because it will breed stability and further total federalization

[Osob101]

Give up our half??
no just south mudug and galgadud.
Puntland suppourts this because it will breed stability and further total federalization

The deal is for all Mudug you are indeed really slow

[thegoodshepherd]

I maybe slow, but even I know the end result of federalization: the marginalization of Xamar politically.
This is probably why you are opposed to it.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

The deal is for all of Mudug, I don't know why the Mj's are acting immune.

The UN just endorsed this deal, all of Mudug + all of Galgaduud to form central state.

[Murax]

Osob1,

How the Federalism will be adpoted, I think should be debated that is perfectly fine. Personally if You ask me Murax, HG are more useful in fighting AS in L Shabelle than a D&M in L Shabelle, but thats just Me. All I'm saying is Federalism isn't and shouldn't be up for debate, but the implementation of it should be.




Personally in this particular case with the Central State, there is simply no other option than 1 and a half gobol. Hiiraan wants more part of it, Northern Mudug wants no part of it. I don't think Xawaadle should be forced into it, and I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it. 1 and a half is the only option, otherwise just have that region come under the Gov straight. If anything this Federal State helps Hawiye get the same seats in the upper house as Daroods. I don't understand the uproar.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

So you want Galkayo to remain a divided city?

Galkayo needs to have one police force, one admin, it is the federal capital of Central State.

HG will get their pie of Federalism regardless of what a minority wishes.

The UN supports this and so does the United States

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Loo ma dhama and it is not going to work. ..every clan in galgadud/mudug will have their own admin.
Murax ur uncle wuxuba raba inu dad aan,,.is arki Karin isku qasbo.

[AbdiWahab252]

AbdiWeli was fine with the two state requirement as it disadvantaged the Hawi ye when he was . Now he is opposed to it.

United Mudug or no Federal state.

[Righteous]

Keep delaying and derailing the process, it worked out so well for you. Jubbaland, South-West State, oh wait...