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Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:32 am
by FarhanYare
I don't think if he gave them his ID would've changed anything. The decision to lock him up like an animal was already made long before they came to the area, as 911 despatch call will inform them of the race of the person they gonna deal with.
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:34 am
by FarhanYare
Just wondering though, do any of Y'all from the states had similar experience with cops there?

Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:57 am
by sconosciuto
FarhanYare wrote:Just wondering though, do any of Y'all from the states had similar experience with cops there?

I think it's pretty normal for one (especially African Americans, Latinos, Africans and other minorities) to have at least one arrest record in USA. I wouldn't be surprised if fah, murax, Grant and the others who grew up there have at least one.
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:14 am
by Adali
It pisses me off how the Police harass the niggers without fearing retaliation, they don't do this to Arabs, Somalis etc because we will quitely say our Shahaada and claw their throat out, bite their face off before going to sleep with 10 bullets.

Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:27 am
by Grant
You want to be really careful how far you take a refusal to identify. The US Supreme Court says an officer can stop you and demand ID if it is part of an investigation, or if he has received a report of suspicious activity, or if he has a suspicion based on experience. In the Nevada example, the man was fined $250 simply for refusal to ID, and it was OK'd by the Court:
http://www.policeone.com/columnists/lom ... rovide-id/
As a matter of policy, I have always cooperated with the police. If they are intrusive, ineffective or messing up, the mayor's office and the courts are the places to fight them. I have fought bad tickets and bad policing before, and it has worked. I for one would not challenge a cop on the street, regardless of the circumstances. Talk to his boss. This should be especially effective after Ferguson.
TAM,
I have never been arrested as an adult. As a teenager, I got caught with a suspicious beaver pelt. My father was tried, convicted and fined $25, with the fine suspended. It was more an embarrassment than anything else.
I was once "carded" on the street, I think because it was raining on and off and I was wearing a big black rain coat. The detective was looking for a "flasher" working the neighborhood!

Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:35 am
by Marques
Grant wrote:You want to be really careful how far you take a refusal to identify. The US Supreme Court says an officer can stop you and demand ID if it is part of an investigation, or if he has received a report of suspicious activity, or if he has a suspicion based on experience. In the Nevada example, the man was fined $250 simply for refusal to ID, and it was OK'd by the Court:
http://www.policeone.com/columnists/lom ... rovide-id/
As a matter of policy, I have always cooperated with the police. If they are intrusive, ineffective or messing up, the mayor's office and the courts are the places to fight them. I have fought bad tickets and bad policing before, and it has worked. I for one would not challenge a cop on the street, regardless of the circumstances. Talk to his boss. This should be especially effective after Ferguson.
TAM,
I have never been arrested as an adult. As a teenager, I got caught with a suspicious beaver pelt. My father was tried, convicted and fined $25, with the fine suspended. It was more an embarrassment than anything else.
I was once "carded" on the street, I think because it was raining on and off and I was wearing a big black rain coat. The detective was looking for a "flasher" working the neighborhood!

In the UK you can ask for the officers ID and easily file a complaint against them. Loads of people record videos of officers trying to hassle them but the moment the officer knows he is being recorded and his ID is requested he will shut up and calm down.
Don't let an officer stick a finger in your face and tell you what to do. You're a taxpayer, you pay for his wages and he works for you. Not the other way around.
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:53 am
by Cherine
you should have nothing short of admiration & respect for those that get up every morning, work very hard during the day often endagering their own lives just to protect the general public & ensure law and order reigns supreme..
as for the corrupt ones then ofcourse you have every right to make use of the right channels to air your grievances.
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:27 am
by Khalid Ali
Blacks always victims 150 years after the slavery being abolished they are still fighting for rights its freaking 2014, weaklings
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:41 am
by Substance
Khalid Ali wrote:Blacks always victims 150 years after the slavery being abolished they are still fighting for rights its freaking 2014, weaklings
The slavery might have been abolished but the mental slavery and corrupt system is still in place. Nothing has changed really. The black movements was infiltrated and destroyed.
Re: Black man jailed for sitting in public area
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:56 am
by Substance
Cherine wrote:you should have nothing short of admiration & respect for those that get up every morning, work very hard during the day often endagering their own lives just to protect the general public & ensure law and order reigns supreme..
as for the corrupt ones then ofcourse you have every right to make use of the right channels to air your grievances.
This the mantra the americans use on their slaves, ops I meant citizens. You don't have to respect any cops or admire. Do they ensure Sharia law? No. They don't protect you but they serve the corrupt system. That's why blacks in the us is still second class citizen. Obviousily they are easily tricked and duped by fancy words.