Is General Gabre the president of Somalia?

[saacJabshee]

Xildiid the reason why ethiopia uses force military force in somalia is because they dont accept what the ethios say without a fight. So the ethios have to use force constantly otherwise they'll be told to piss of. I find it very hard to believe the reason why there is no ethiopian military presence in pl and sl is because they are democratic and independent. I think it's because they do exactly as they told and avoid a confrontation at all cost. But go ahead and tell me how SL is independent and Ethiopia is a key and equal partner.

[sahal80]

Xildiid


The UN mission is in very, was in iraq etc

Bc its the best way to bring the stakeholders together by making for them a constitution, political system, political strategy like the vision2016 but after they implemt all this it will be isdabar like iraq!

IGAD involves in the regions that have conflicts, its a regional organization but implements its countries political agenda

But nowdays they have been stopped many times by the US, that why they talked to barre hiiraale!

Igad has supported before jubbaland building its parliament, US has told them not before reconciliation!

As sl it has different situation but they see her as same

In his next report to the SC he will include sl.

[Xildiiid]

You know that IGAD was created by a Somali man. A sujui from Tanzania. Dr. Hussein Aadan also known as Hussein Tanzania who hails from SL. Today that same organization is used as a tool to undermine Somalis from SL and Somalia.

You see the situation in Iraq and given Somalias history of clan rivalry, the concept of self reliance or "is deber" won't work after 2016 unless Somalia organize itself and cuts out the middle hand.

SL is different and this far our leaders have outmaneuvered the SC and the likes of Kay who are trying to undermine us. Trust me, we won't allow them to undermine our dreams.

SaacJabshe,

The government of Somalia invited the Ethiopians. I don't know what you're taking about.

[sahal80]

You know that IGAD was created by a Somali man. A sujui from Tanzania. Dr. Hussein Aadan also known as Hussein Tanzania who hails from SL. Today that same organization is used as a tool to undermine Somalis from SL and Somalia.

You see the situation in Iraq and given Somalias history of clan rivalry, the concept of self reliance or "is deber" won't work after 2016 unless Somalia organize itself and cuts out the middle hand.

SL is different and this far our leaders have outmaneuvered the SC and the likes of Kay who are trying to undermine us. Trust me, won't allow them to undermine our dreams.

SaacJabshe,

The government of Somalia invited the Ethiopians. I don't know what you're taking about.

US will replace them

In the somali case, the army will be an independent institution just like egypt controlled by the US

This is why they removing the warlords to build a professional army

There will be massive US base in somalia

Politicians can't fight only politically.

[sahal80]

Ethiopia is so worry of US military plans in somali and have been told to mind its business!.

[skywalker25]

If wishes were horses Sahal would be living in his own skyscraper in some corner near of Jazeria beach. The importance this guy thinks the west places on Somali is beyond any reasonable logic. The wests whole policy is all about containment not some Marshal Plan to turn Somali into some western out post. If the west cared about anybody Libya would not be allowed to turn into a failed state and besides what makes you think peace will be imposed external when the locals dont want peace..

This guy (and I think his likeable but has to be said) either takes us all for fools are is the biggest fool on snet...

[Xildiiid]

You know that IGAD was created by a Somali man. A sujui from Tanzania. Dr. Hussein Aadan also known as Hussein Tanzania who hails from SL. Today that same organization is used as a tool to undermine Somalis from SL and Somalia.

You see the situation in Iraq and given Somalias history of clan rivalry, the concept of self reliance or "is deber" won't work after 2016 unless Somalia organize itself and cuts out the middle hand.

SL is different and this far our leaders have outmaneuvered the SC and the likes of Kay who are trying to undermine us. Trust me, won't allow them to undermine our dreams.

SaacJabshe,

The government of Somalia invited the Ethiopians. I don't know what you're taking about.

US will replace them

In the somali case, the army will be an independent institution just like egypt controlled by the US

This is why they removing the warlords to build a professional army

There will be massive US base in somalia

Politicians can't fight only politically.

That's the difference between SL and Somalia. We don't have the same mentality.

You and your people are happy with being controlled by a foreign country, the only difference being that this country is more powerful than the countries that control you today.

On the contrary, our main dream and aspiration is to decide our own future without any interference and one day dominate Africa and compete with the rest of the world.

[manaxe88]

I will quote Ethiopian Pm .. “Somaliland is a friend and a key strategic ally for Ethiopia. We will spare no expense to defend and protect Somaliland. We are ready to extend an arm of support to our Somaliland brothers every time they are in need of one,”

why will ethiopia defend somaliland from somalia

[saacJabshee]

I will quote Ethiopian Pm .. “Somaliland is a friend and a key strategic ally for Ethiopia. We will spare no expense to defend and protect Somaliland. We are ready to extend an arm of support to our Somaliland brothers every time they are in need of one,”

why will ethiopia defend somaliland from somalia

If thats true then its because Ethios want the current stalemate to continue. Right now the federal gov cant force any other mamul to join it or even come to the table if they don't want to. This weakens somalida whilst the ethios give separate deals to each mamul and undermine dowlada. Last thing the ethio want to see is a strong united Somalia.

[GIJaamac]

If i compare different somali areas and their submission to foreigners in terms of women.
Puntland would be a professional prostitute. Somaliland and Djibouti would be college whores. South-central Somalia would be a rape victim.

[Xildiiid]

I will quote Ethiopian Pm .. “Somaliland is a friend and a key strategic ally for Ethiopia. We will spare no expense to defend and protect Somaliland. We are ready to extend an arm of support to our Somaliland brothers every time they are in need of one,”

why will ethiopia defend somaliland from somalia

The Ethiopian PM can state what he wants but what are you trying to prove with that quote? Somalia can't do shit to SL so the possibility of Desalegn talking about Somalia equals 0.

[XimanJaale]

I will quote Ethiopian Pm .. “Somaliland is a friend and a key strategic ally for Ethiopia. We will spare no expense to defend and protect Somaliland. We are ready to extend an arm of support to our Somaliland brothers every time they are in need of one,”

why will ethiopia defend somaliland from somalia

Obviously Somaliland is a Ethiopian project. The whole thing was created, funded, equipped by Ethiopia. Since 1988 until present day Somaliland is owned by Ethiopia nothing new.

[Xildiiid]

I will quote Ethiopian Pm .. “Somaliland is a friend and a key strategic ally for Ethiopia. We will spare no expense to defend and protect Somaliland. We are ready to extend an arm of support to our Somaliland brothers every time they are in need of one,”

why will ethiopia defend somaliland from somalia

Obviously Somaliland is a Ethiopian project. The whole thing was created, funded, equipped by Ethiopia. Since 1988 until present day Somaliland is owned by Ethiopia nothing new.

How is SL an Ethiopian project? The idea of reclaiming our sovereignty existed as early as July 1, 1960.

If you're talking about the SNM, we opposed economic aid from Gaddafi and Mengistu because they wanted to control the movement like they controlled SSDF. We were not equipped by them. Fundraising events in the Gulf States, UK and US by Isaaq diaspora and businessmen enabled us to buy weapons. When Siyaad Barre signed a peace treaty with Mengistu while promising not to lay claims on the Somali region, the SNM was given the choice of leaving their bases or face the Ethiopian army on one side and the SNA on the other. That disproves your claims of SNM being an Ethiopian project.

[sahal80]

Xildiid

The difference between me and you is that you have a trollling mind!

I wrongly landed here just to state the right info like gebre being an igad official, apparently you had no such info!

He and afay are same!

If you have an issue with igad, go back and do your research when it has to get involved in the countries as regional organization!

Your second argument about ethiopia and somaliland was rubbish!

Somaliland is the closest somali region to ethiopia politically, socially and economically!!

Ethiopia doesn't want to regognize her bc of somalilands ports, wants cheeper ports!
Ethiopian pm said we will defend somaliland to the core!

Ethioian officials tell pl to not wage war against sl!

Sl students are keep graduating from the ethiopian military academics!!!

In hargeysa there was ethiopian fund raising for the ethiopian nile project!

You have the biggest ethiopian community!


Ethiopian intelligence!

Ethiopan troops can go there without permission when ONLF lands!


And the the list goes http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://ww ... 85n2_3M27w


It doesn't me we care just stop accusing us some thing your the most doers!!

As for the US, I pet you wish that!

Your at ethiopian level!

US is an ally that will protect us just like the gulf countries and djibouti!

I'm out!.

[Xildiiid]

Lmao

You can't proof half the shit you wrote. As I told you, Somaliland has the aspirations of deciding its future and one day dominate Africa and compete with the world while you want to be a military garrison like Djibouti.