October 21st

[lasanodboi]

The Kacaan had the last laugh the enemies are today either died or hiding somewhere pathetic

[XimanJaale]

The 21st October revolution was a blessing to Somalia. Saving the country from a corrupted tribalist government that accepted foreign interference. The revolution brought back dignity and self-awareness to the Somali people. If only we ever get such great people back into our country.

Happy 21 October!

[Based]

Based, why leave out the systematic use of tribalism or the monopolising of power by a single tribe. Why leave out a blood thirsty Dictator without a single ounce of imagination or education who thought the hammer was the solution to everything.

Why must you Kacaanist focus on the few projects made in the early years and who's creators most likely ended up on the wrong side of a barrel. Why do you ignore the word Dictatorship and all the words associated with it, or did you live in democracy? I know it must have felt like one...

As I said, there were regrettable mistakes made in some cases, even though what you characterize as the "hammer" was an unfortunate but ultimately necessary response to existential threats emanating from neighboring countries. Although Somalia was not a democracy, few could ignore the substantial progress Somalia made during this time period. Make no mistake, Somalia was the preeminent power in the HoA during a period where our neighbor Ethiopia couldn't even feed its own people. If you told the people of 1991 what their Ethiopian-sponsored rebellion would cost them, I doubt they would be so quick to point fingers at XHKS.

btw, before you claim it had nothing to do with Ethiopia, take a look at viewtopic.php?f=250&t=303304 and page 12 of http://dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a588599.pdf to see Ethiopia's open admission of their foreign policy during this era.

[STARKAST]

Skywalker is partly right, msb did empower his clan under the name of Somalia's resources. Are you going to disagree with that and still respect my fact.
With that said cut the kibir we all know addis directly controls hargeisa and regulates them too.

[Hodan94]

Pls post the video of amisom marching for this event.
thanks.

[skywalker25]

Based, why leave out the systematic use of tribalism or the monopolising of power by a single tribe. Why leave out a blood thirsty Dictator without a single ounce of imagination or education who thought the hammer was the solution to everything.

Why must you Kacaanist focus on the few projects made in the early years and who's creators most likely ended up on the wrong side of a barrel. Why do you ignore the word Dictatorship and all the words associated with it, or did you live in democracy? I know it must have felt like one...

As I said, there were regrettable mistakes made in some cases, even though what you characterize as the "hammer" was an unfortunate but ultimately necessary response to existential threats emanating from neighboring countries. Although Somalia was not a democracy, few could ignore the substantial progress Somalia made during this time period. Make no mistake, Somalia was the preeminent power in the HoA during a period where our neighbor Ethiopia couldn't even feed its own people. If you told the people of 1991 what their Ethiopian-sponsored rebellion would cost them, I doubt they would be so quick to point fingers at XHKS.

btw, before you claim it had nothing to do with Ethiopia, take a look at viewtopic.php?f=250&t=303304 and page 12 of http://dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a588599.pdf to see Ethiopia's open admission of their foreign policy during this era.

Horta, regardless of my tribal allegiance or my personal dislike for the former regime and judging the whole fiasco from a neutral point of view, I would still struggle to see this rosy happy utopia where people sang songs all day working hard and while learning to either teach or learn to read. Where nobody was poor and everybody was rich and tribalism is non existent. A place where the Somalis of today did not existent but that was populated by light skinned secular people with a religious freedom and run by a kind gentle cuddly dictator who couldn't harm a fly and who loved his people.

The truth however is that he took advantage of the peoples yawning for unity and expectation, for a while was riding this wave and claim it as his achievement. When this air of expectation the people had been dreaming about did not materialise and real leadership was required he started attacking and locking up people with ideas driving the country towards the abyss. This whole hollow point of blaming the SNM/SSDF/USC for the disintegration of Somalia is null and void. These rebel groups represented their respected groups more than the government which like the dictator who occupied the country where seen as occupying army. A Dictator who resorted to let the genie of tribalism out of the bag and use it to stay in power ignoring the fact that it will unravel the young and fragile threads that held this young nation. He killed based on tribe and associated young guilt or innocence on your tribe and not on facts. Killing innocent people in Hargeisa/Galkcayo/or Jazeera beach in Mogadisho.

You keep selling us these walt disney movie but remember we are not kids...

[thegoodshepherd]

May god bless Jaale Siyaad, the last truely wadani Somali leader. At least he will not see what we have become.

[skywalker25]

I can understand a Boli saran raised kid like Based or any of his tol praising the Kacaan but I find it strange when characters like the above troll or any of his big booty tol jump aboard with insincere crocodile tears. Ignoring the fact it was they who started the ball rolling by rebelling when their was no reason and its still them who are undermining the Somali government today...

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I can understand a Boli saran raised kid like Based or any of his tol praising the Kacaan but I find it strange when characters like the above troll or any of his big booty tol jump aboard with insincere crocodile tears. Ignoring the fact it was they who started the ball rolling by rebelling when their was no reason and its still them who are undermining the Somali government today...

He's a moron that's why.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Based, why leave out the systematic use of tribalism or the monopolising of power by a single tribe. Why leave out a blood thirsty Dictator without a single ounce of imagination or education who thought the hammer was the solution to everything.

Why must you Kacaanist focus on the few projects made in the early years and who's creators most likely ended up on the wrong side of a barrel. Why do you ignore the word Dictatorship and all the words associated with it, or did you live in democracy? I know it must have felt like one...

As I said, there were regrettable mistakes made in some cases, even though what you characterize as the "hammer" was an unfortunate but ultimately necessary response to existential threats emanating from neighboring countries. Although Somalia was not a democracy, few could ignore the substantial progress Somalia made during this time period. Make no mistake, Somalia was the preeminent power in the HoA during a period where our neighbor Ethiopia couldn't even feed its own people. If you told the people of 1991 what their Ethiopian-sponsored rebellion would cost them, I doubt they would be so quick to point fingers at XHKS.

btw, before you claim it had nothing to do with Ethiopia, take a look at viewtopic.php?f=250&t=303304 and page 12 of http://dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a588599.pdf to see Ethiopia's open admission of their foreign policy during this era.

Lol "regrettable"? My parking ticket is regrettable. Stubbing my toe against a door is regrettable. The systematic dismantling of any and everything that it meant to be a proud Somali, the constant blunders both in domestic and foreign policy, the systematic silencing and brutal crackdown of any opposition (both actual and perceived), the discrimination and imprisonment of innocents from rival clans, the complete massacres of whole cities and towns to the point where Somalis preferred Ethiopians to their fellow Somalis and the utter selfishness in not letting go of power/admitting defeat even after losing the civil war and perpetuating further violence is what you call "regrettable"?

Let's not beat around the bush, you are a qabiilist of the highest order and clearly haven't learnt anything from the last 30 years of Somalia's embarrassing history. Don't pretend to be a wadani when you are the very antithesis of what it means to love your country and people. Now go celebrate your cult at Siad Barre's shrine or something.

[Xanuunku]

May god bless Jaale Siyaad, the last truely wadani Somali leader. At least he will not see what we have become.

Beautiful.

[BlackVelvet]

From 1969 to 1990, president and military dictator Siad Barre oversaw a campaign of widespread atrocities that decimated Somali civil society.

[BlackVelvet]

Publicly, Barre claimed to stamp out the clan system. Yet in practice, the regime ultimately did the opposite.

[BlackVelvet]

In the 1970s, Barre formed a new intelligence agency comprised of members of his clan called the National Security Service (NSS). Ostensibly responsible for intelligence and internal security, including monitoring security "offenses," the NSS became known as the "Black SS": a secret police force that used torture and arbitrary detention to suppress dissidents and curtail civil liberties.

[BlackVelvet]

In 1978, military officers from the Majeerteen clan launched a coup attempt. The Red Berets, military special forces, responded by destroying water reservoirs in Majeerteen areas. As a result, an estimated 2,000 Majeerteen died of thirst. Paramilitaries also waged a campaign of sexual violence against Majeerteen women.