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Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:27 pm
by sahal80
BlackRain wrote:EEG, I heard Xalane is the biggest yes man even worse than Saacid. If that dude gets the PM, it's goodbye to Jubbaland.
I think he's abit old and may not have too much energy wich may suit dj he also chews khat, poet and cawees guy but at work he's professional

Farah abdulqadir is married to one of his very close cousins so they may work together as in-laws

He's much smarter guy but socially he may have common thinngs with saacid, work less hours wich is good for them.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:03 am
by Murax
sahal80 wrote:
BlackRain wrote: work less hours wich is good for them.

:lol:

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:49 am
by sahal80
Murax wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
BlackRain wrote: work less hours wich is good for them.

:lol:
lol do you want him to to appoint his cabinet at 3am after midnight?

Yuulka wajigii iyo dhihii aaba banaaka u soo baxay!

Is daji dheh niyoo !

Wa khod nasibaka mina donya!

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:29 am
by BlackRain
sahal why did Hassan fire Saacid? he was very miskiin and Hassan and damul-aljdeed had it their way. They should have kept him to avoid all these political mess

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:40 am
by sahal80
BlackRain wrote:sahal why did Hassan fire Saacid? he was very miskiin and Hassan and damul-aljdeed had it their way. They should have kept him to avoid all these political mess
I think saacid was not that easy as you may think, this is the man who brought army inside kismayo from no where!

You just believed in too much probaganda from your media but in reality he wasn't as he was portrayed by them

Yuulka was brought to fit post-saacid era? What does that mean? It means he was tougher

Take some examples; dj has got divided now but were united against saacid!

Saacid has just became victim in the parliament and the political situation that was totally against him

He appointed the ambassador to ethiopia ahmed abdisalam

Even fozia got through bc of him and was working with him in the early months

The only thing saacid did was avoiding khilaafaat willingly until last weeks bc he heard the conspiracy against him

He said to the president I know that guys in madaxtooyada r talking about to replace him while I did my best to avoid khilafaat but from now on I will be hard on them and I'm going to make reshuffle right now on me and on my enemy!

Now why he got targeted?

For 4 reasons:

1-guleed has seen him and his wife dangerous to his central bases and he wanted to be al kul when it comes to these communities

2- farah abdulqadir believes in an opposite ideology that's closer to OGs so he has seen him prolonging the conflict(this is why yuulka though he was not picked by him was supposed to go the other way bc of all informations about him provided by his dj friends saying like that

3-to scapegoat him bc of yusra and give the cabinet new image

4- saacid has insisted a cabinet reshuffle in order to get rid of fozia first atleast


I think all these conclusions were wrong but farah abdulqadirs point maybe was right

Why yuulka didn't work then?

Instead of being part of the agenda, he was trying to build state under the state and relations under the same relations or in another words a political coup in all fronts; the regions specially jubbaland and kenya, the gulf and the west!

This is the true reason he targeted farah abdulqadir

If he wasn't stopped he would have targeted halane, godah, the army

Yuulka was knew the motion will take place once he reshuffles the cabinet, infact he planned it as a set up ahead of the copenhegen conference and this is not analysis but some thing real that was descussed on it in a secret meeting before the reshuffle

As president had a motion in his intentions(on the bases that they can't work together anymore) to take place after few months, bc of the international conferences and regional admins so there can be achievements wich will prevent some of the international pressure, the pm thought he should take advantage of the conferences then the president will be forced to accept a road map agreement that they have to work together until 2016!


Thanks to IGAD backing farah abdulqadir, they convinced the west to let this be sorted out by the somali leadership itself

So it depends on three of them to solve it quickly in anyway

Pm still calls for dialoge between them and president is doing all he can to oust him

Jawari doesn't care

So it has to be sorted out by two ways; through the cabinet in a massive resignation so can that he can face the parliament by himself in order to get the vote of confidence for his new cabinet

Or keep the heat on jawari until he cooperates

Now the president was changing the parliaments security

Interesting days to come ahead!.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:02 pm
by Murax
BlackRain wrote:sahal why did Hassan fire Saacid? he was very miskiin and Hassan and damul-aljdeed had it their way. They should have kept him to avoid all these political mess


I know You do not take a ounce of Sahal's propaganda ranting seriously, so I'll just tell You what You already know. Saacid was a scapegoat for Culusow's failures. Culusow controlled the entire Gov from a Security, Ministrial, policy standpoint. PM Abdiweli comes in, and does a 180 degree turn and does serious revamping all around Him from Security, relations with the States etc. Shuffling people around. His trip to Puntland, Kismayo were long for a reason to really push the Federal agenda.



Btw, if You think a Somalia Aid money 10 person group called Dam Jadiid picked the PM Abdiweli You are really mistaken. PM Abdiwali was really put forward and advanced by the Int'l Community.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:44 pm
by sahal80
I'm talking about their political methods and strategical policies

There's a pic of the day yuulka arrived in the airport, though I know his case, how its logical for a religious guys to bring an IC man? Lol

Why so called IC was/is not backing his reshuffle? All they were calling for was to reach an agreement about it for the sake of the governances agenda?

The US has even stated they r neutral!


Every body can state his opinion but since I'm insider I beileve that saacid was a kinda partner from the start unlike of yuulka who still has in his office the dj guys who brought him!

Saacid was working within a political method and along with his interests

Yuulka was kinda explorer, trying to set a feet in every where but he couldn't!

Look now who IGAD backs? Halane has taking over kismayo, failed in southwest, PL has back fired him politically and gave the president media support in a community that was against him!



Saacid had came through normal relations that go along with his interests

Besides his wife and central connections there was engineer yarisow and his saleban wife(heard they got divorced now, lives in london) kamal guutaale who was from the old staff of gaas that stayed with the president

When saacid was new, a new office at that time called policy unit has appointed for him a communicator between him and the office of the president, it was doodhishe, he sent him back!

The fact is that saacid was working for his own subclan and regional interests

What you got now? Who's likely to replace yuulka and what he has done even for himself?

Can he do such a massive strategic works like saacid did?

A blind can't see!.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:53 pm
by Murax
Sahal,



You are not a analyst You're a propagandist. Nothing You ever say comes to fruition. The PM from day 1 made His presence very clear that He was there to do business and was going to do things HIS way. Btw, Your statement about the PM was 'Dam Jadiid' way back was When I knew right away You had no clue what You're talking about. Carry on lol

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:58 pm
by sahal80
Maybe they were/r different in professionalism but I'm talking about the policies

One has become victim of his superficial relations and the other has still presence!


Yuulka has realized in his last weeks that his true power base was gedo so he started supporting the conference after he got rid of all what saacid has built

Go learn the politics kid!.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:12 pm
by Murax
I respect Saacid Shirdon as a person. Our families know each other and He's a family friend. That said, He was not regarded or ill regarded by Reer Gedo He was simply a Non Factor. One thing I can tell You though is regionally Jubbaland Vice President Fartag a regional player,is a supporter of Abdiwali. Janaan who is influential in Gedo are supporters of PM Abdiwali. Many of PM Abdiwali's constituancy in Gedo are applauding Him for taking the bulls by the horn. Don't speak of of what You don't know!

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:26 pm
by THE_TRUTH1
Murax wrote:
BlackRain wrote:sahal why did Hassan fire Saacid? he was very miskiin and Hassan and damul-aljdeed had it their way. They should have kept him to avoid all these political mess


I know You do not take a ounce of Sahal's propaganda ranting seriously, so I'll just tell You what You already know. Saacid was a scapegoat for Culusow's failures. Culusow controlled the entire Gov from a Security, Ministrial, policy standpoint. PM Abdiweli comes in, and does a 180 degree turn and does serious revamping all around Him from Security, relations with the States etc. Shuffling people around. His trip to Puntland, Kismayo were long for a reason to really push the Federal agenda.



Btw, if You think a Somalia Aid money 10 person group called Dam Jadiid picked the PM Abdiweli You are really mistaken. PM Abdiwali was really put forward and advanced by the Int'l Community.

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yuulka is a great threat to Jubaland , yuulka tried to so hard to lobby Kenyans to support Marexaan leader in Jubba he further told Kenyans Ogadans cannot deliver beyond Afmadow pockets of lower Jubba kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


Yuulka serious Man Image

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:34 pm
by sahal80
Murax


I fully support the peace in jubbaland and all should unite for khair

Having said that, as analyst, yuulka should have balanced his relations

I think jubbaland needs for an eternal political settlement not a tactical settlement

Clans have different agendas for example my clan would prefer to make the federal capital in hiiraan, have both the vice-president and the speaker wich means having more control in it in their land

So every thing is clear from the start

Wassalam

I'm out now!

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:53 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Analyst Sahal,

Why is GarguurtGarguurte against the Central State? Why federalism for all except Beesha?

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:32 pm
by sahal80
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Analyst Sahal,

Why is GarguurtGarguurte against the Central State? Why federalism for all except Beesha?
I can't say he's against it but he doesn't accept traditional/powerful HW politicians like he does towards baydhabo and kismayo

Reason is that he wants to be al kul in these regions and for the next elections in wich the mps will come from their regional districts

Other southren regions he treats them as a possible ally

These guys have a long term agendas for the next 6/8 years.

Re: Some Of Culusows Most Ardent Supporters Are Daroods

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:19 am
by sahal80
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Analyst Sahal,

Why is GarguurtGarguurte against the Central State? Why federalism for all except Beesha?
AW

I will give you the point

SL has gone as one and nus!

PL and JL may defer on the central polictics but r one regionally

But you, the HW, can't even unite on a subclan bases!

Your easy to be used against the center!

We have seen that conference in addis between gaas, qaybdiid and the regional countries!

So, the agenda is to re-shape you in a way that you can empower the center in the regions and have the same privilages of the rest!

Wassalam.