UNFPA Population Estimates survery of Somalia 2014

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Listen people this is not 100%. However it is better than Wikipedia which is so anti-somaliland.
And I was not trying to compare somaliland to other regions of Somalia. I was comparing Isaaqs (Somaliland majority) and Daroods (Jubbaland and puntland Majority).
I think they got a few bits wrong.
1. Awdal is overrated I don't think Adwad is 1/2 of Waqooyi Galbeed.
2. Togdheer is under rated, togdheer has a bigger rural and nomadic population
3. Waqooyi Galbeed is underrated. I think Waqooyi Galbeed has more people than Banadir and should be ranked number 1. Don't forget Waqooyi Galbeed is 2 states in somaliland Saaxil and Maroodi-jeex. Plus WG contains Hargeisa which has about 1.3 million people, not far behind xamar. And berbera which has 200,000 and there are other villages and towns like Gabiley.
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Berbera is the least pupulated city in somaliland, I dont there there are 80.000 people let alone 200.000 . How ever cities like gebiley and wajaale are actually more populated than expected, they are always under estimated because they were not regional capitals.
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Somalis scared of their langaabnimo.

I dont believe those numbers one bit. I've been to a few of those gobols listed and no way do they have that many people. These people are having a laugh.

These numbers were made up by UN workers and aid organizations based in Somalia who want a bigger budget and more money


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Togdeer wrote:Listen people this is not 100%. However it is better than Wikipedia which is so anti-somaliland.
And I was not trying to compare somaliland to other regions of Somalia. I was comparing Isaaqs (Somaliland majority) and Daroods (Jubbaland and puntland Majority).
I think they got a few bits wrong.
1. Awdal is overrated I don't think Adwad is 1/2 of Waqooyi Galbeed.
2. Togdheer is under rated, togdheer has a bigger rural and nomadic population
3. Waqooyi Galbeed is underrated. I think Waqooyi Galbeed has more people than Banadir and should be ranked number 1. Don't forget Waqooyi Galbeed is 2 states in somaliland Saaxil and Maroodi-jeex. Plus WG contains Hargeisa which has about 1.3 million people, not far behind xamar. And berbera which has 200,000 and there are other villages and towns like Gabiley.
:lol: :lol: Walle eydoors have been totally mind-fucked by beesha barakeysan ee Daarood. All this effort to compare ur langaab clan to the Daarood nation. Not suprised, everyone wants to be like Daarood, prestige, laaandheere and powerful. 8-)
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XaarmanJaale why would we want to be like people who
1. Do not have land that they governm 100%
2. Are the poorest somali people
3. No political power what so ever

We Isaaqs are the second biggest somali clan after Hawiye. But then again Hawiye is not real they claim everything.
we Isaaqs are the richest somali clan by far. The 5 wealthiest somalis are all Isaaq.
we Isaaqs govern our selves

Mareexans can't even talk they are the biggest langaabs. Do you guys even have a town with 50,000+
or are you lot still living in villages.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:Berbera is the least pupulated city in somaliland, I dont there there are 80.000 people let alone 200.000 . How ever cities like gebiley and wajaale are actually more populated than expected, they are always under estimated because they were not regional capitals.
Yusuf that is what it says on Wikipedia, which don't forget is very anti somaliland. And if your trying to compare Gabiley and wajaale to Berbera then you are having a laugh.
Berbera is the 3rd biggest city in somaliland.
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Togdeer wrote:XaarmanJaale why would we want to be like people who
1. Do not have land that they governm 100%
2. Are the poorest somali people
3. No political power what so ever

We Isaaqs are the second biggest somali clan after Hawiye. But then again Hawiye is not real they claim everything.
we Isaaqs are the richest somali clan by far. The 5 wealthiest somalis are all Isaaq.
we Isaaqs govern our selves

Mareexans can't even talk they are the biggest langaabs. Do you guys even have a town with 50,000+
or are you lot still living in villages.
1. Yes we have Puntland, Jubbaland, DDSI and we govern NFD
2. What method did you use to measure the wealth of Daarood?
3. Political power? Since 2000 we produced a president and countless of PM. Lets not forget our regional political power.

Lol @ Mareexaan are laangaabs, a sub-clan of Mareexaan is enough to karbaash eydoors let alone, Mareexaan ama Daarood oo dhan. Ilmo eydoor, u guys were our favourite servants.
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XimanJaale wrote:
Togdeer wrote:XaarmanJaale why would we want to be like people who
1. Do not have land that they governm 100%
2. Are the poorest somali people
3. No political power what so ever

We Isaaqs are the second biggest somali clan after Hawiye. But then again Hawiye is not real they claim everything.
we Isaaqs are the richest somali clan by far. The 5 wealthiest somalis are all Isaaq.
we Isaaqs govern our selves

Mareexans can't even talk they are the biggest langaabs. Do you guys even have a town with 50,000+
or are you lot still living in villages.
1. Yes we have Puntland, Jubbaland, DDSI and we govern NFD
2. What method did you use to measure the wealth of Daarood?
3. Political power? Since 2000 we produced a president and countless of PM. Lets not forget our regional political power.

Lol @ Mareexaan are laangaabs, a sub-clan of Mareexaan is enough to karbaash eydoors let alone, Mareexaan ama Daarood oo dhan. Ilmo eydoor, u guys were our favourite servants.
1. Puntland, Jubbakand and xaarland are all regions, they are not countries like Somaliland
2. I beleive the wealthiest somali men and women all hail from the Isaaq clan, the likes of Dhahabshiil, Inda deero, Ina Afdiinle, Amina Mooge, Ibrahim Deere...
3. Darood produced some presidents and PMs in somalia, but the question is do they actually have any powers? I don't think so, somalia still does not have a functionig government AU, Ethiopia and Kenya are running the country.

Isaaq and Langaab do not go mate. We are the reason why Siyad barre left. How could 1 clan defeat the second biggest army in africa at the time.
And Mereexaars are laangabs because they don't have 1 city, to their name. My sub clan of HJ is enough to handle you langaabs.
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Wrong! Although Puntland is really under populated, its still fairly shared thanks to its relatively closer location to south Somalia. In the 40s The bulk of the Darood in Somalia the "Harti" where 220k When the Isaaq where 420k loool

(Back to the issue)There is other Harti ( Warsans and Dhuluo's specially in Bari) There is other Darood (Laelakse living in Muduq), Hawiya (Sharing you second largest city and mostly work as labor in Bosasso), D&M (mostly investors and labors), You have a sizable population of Oromo, Bantue, Madhiban and Maheri. I laugh my ass out when Dhabacyos try to sell Puntland as an MJ Exclusive region. The are barely bigger than Dhuluo's :lol:

While in Somaliland where most populated cities are almost exclusively Isaaq. Yes we have Some Madhiban and Ethiopians. Sool is majority Darood (but still the least populated region lol) We have huge population of of Dir in Awdal (Borama alone is bigger than any Darood city 215k :lol:) Yet in 2005, if you combined Bosasso 164 k, Las Anood 75k, Buuhoodle 38k, Badan55k, Lasqory35k ,Kismayo 166k (which its fairly shared) You still cant compete with Hargiesa 560k loooooooooooool

https://docs.unocha.org/sites/dms/Somal ... 202005.pdf




That is why in the 70s we have been classified by the CIA as Somalia's Second largest clan. When they counted every Qabiil minority to its respectful larger clan (ie every Qubeys in what is known today as PL is added to every Gaudabursi in SL + every Biyomaal in Southern Somalia all are counted as = Dir (not including Isaaq). The minorities who did not belong to any of the "Noble clans" where simply labeled as minority. Effectively, Stripping the Darood lies of Siad Barre propaganda (Darood is the largest clan in Somalia) To a clan that its members are equal to D&M. :Shrug:


http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/s ... hnic92.jpg

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Togdeer,

Berbera is not big as it used to be. 50 years ago it had a population of 230k. But after the civil war and the bombing, no one bothered to come back to it and invest. Most people went to Hargiesa, Gabiley and Shiekh. The climate does not help either but its sad that Berbera have been abandoned. It has a port and airport = great potential but yet no body is investing?
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Waa been iyo borobagaandho waxani. Gobolada reerguuragu ku badanyahay yaa xisaabin kara, sida togdheer, sool, sanaag, bakool iyo galgaduud. Waar waxani waa iska qiyaas.
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Why are ppl bragging though?
No one knows tge real population it is an estimate. God knows how many ppl that are reer miyi.
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Togdeer wrote:According to this the population of
Somaliland = 3,508,180
Puntland = 1,830,073
Jubbaland = 1,360,633
rest of Somalia = 5,101,947
I don't know where you get those information but according to the link that has been provided puntland is only 863, 078. not even 1 million. don't want to bother looking for jubbaland but i assume is way less. Go back to your calculation saxiib.

For those of you who are interested in statistics as I am, look for the source and according to my experience, UNOCHA org use multiple second sources and even some non partial organization to get their statistics. Anyhow to be honest, a honest census is way over do in somali regions and countries.
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Banadir,bay,bakool,middle sh numbers should be double nugal,bari,sanag,berbera,awdal numbers should be half those numbers. Hargeisa numbers are high due to oromo migrants same for bosaso.
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SecretAgent wrote:Banadir,bay,bakool,middle sh numbers should be double nugal,bari,sanag,berbera,awdal numbers should be half those numbers. Hargeisa numbers are high due to oromo migrants same for bosaso.
You people can't resist cooking books and numbers. :lol:
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