Who said Canadian Somais are the most well off Somalis?

[BlackRain]

^ tan hadal badanaa. Sht the fuck up for once will you?

[Itrah]

I've noticed that in the euro world we've some how gotten the shameful reputation of being welfare hogs...and lazy....smh....what happened to our people?

Sweden does not use the euro. Germany uses the euro and it's extremely difficult to get welfare, hence why so few Somalis live there.

Swedish Somalis are the biggest welfare addicts out of all Somalis in the West. You can't blame them when the system makes it so enticing.

[KnowThySelf23]

^ tan hadal badanaa. Sht the fuck up for once will you?

who the fuck was talking to you naya....hop off my ceeb....you irrelevant piece of shit stain

[TheMailMan]

Somalia shouldn't have a welfare system at all, when we become an established, functioning nation inshaAllah. Welfare would destroy our incentive to work, and put our country into severe debt. Somalia needs industry, it needs higher productivity and well-paying jobs. And I'm afraid that if we have welfare, it will destroy any incentive to work.

Look at the British Somalis, the Swedish Somalis, even the Ontarian Somalis. It's just terrible for us and we need more incentives to get off our ass and be productive

[KnowThySelf23]

I've noticed that in the euro world we've some how gotten the shameful reputation of being welfare hogs...and lazy....smh....what happened to our people?

Sweden does not use the euro. Germany uses the euro and it's extremely difficult to get welfare, hence why so few Somalis live there.

Swedish Somalis are the biggest welfare addicts out of all Somalis in the West. You can't blame them when the system makes it so enticing.

oh my bad i meant european...not the currency...but thanks for the info

[Based]

baasto, definately, i am inherited. but being a poor isnt something you born with it and "have" stay like that.

People are born into poverty and it is very hard to get rich or even earn a modest income for the most people in the world.do you think people enjoy being stuck in focking poverty?.i am baasto the revolution is coming, ya arab.

lol they dont enjoy, but they lack ability to get out and try. they lack self believe of they self. this is what they know and want to stay like that, its easier for them.

how many people born in poverty and could successed? in the end ultimed provider is Allah but all need is to try hardest we can. wealth goes and comes, important is to learn skills.

Despite the Arab dress and religious facade, I always knew you were a prole-exploiting/wage-slaving bourgeois oppressor.

Poverty is an artificial state created and perpetuated by those who seek to gain at the expense of the rest, regardless of the human suffering and misery created by their greed. To imply the poor (i.e. victims) are responsible for their plight is to ignore the hierarchical nature of capitalism that demands the majority toil to create wealth for a tiny minority.

Recognize your own role in the class war my friend, before the day the poor will have nothing left to eat but the rich.

[LobsterUnit]

Based.now you know we have neoliberal somalis.

[TheMailMan]

Despite the Arab dress and religious facade, I always knew you were a prole-exploiting/wage-slaving bourgeois oppressor.

Poverty is an artificial state created and perpetuated by those who seek to gain at the expense of the rest, regardless of the human suffering and misery created by their greed. To imply the poor (i.e. victims) are responsible for their plight is to ignore the hierarchical nature of capitalism that demands the majority toil to create wealth for a tiny minority.

Recognize your own role in the class war my friend, before the day the poor will have nothing left to eat but the rich.

Get the hell outta my face with that Marxist bullshit. The poor today are 100x better off than they were 2 centuries ago. At least today in the industrialized world, the "poor" have a standard of living that the rich 2 centuries ago could only DREAM of; things such as microwave ovens, flush toilets, motorized transportation, air-conditioning, abundant food, cell-phones, electricity, internet connection, and inner-heating are ALL luxuries that weren't available to the common man in previous generations.

And now it all exists and the poor are MUCH better off because of it in the Industrialized countries. Why do you think a poor man in South Korea is much better off than a poor man in Bangladesh? Why do you think they literally have to keep changing the definition of "poor" every few years or so, because so many poor people are living better and better off than they used too?

And this is something that's happening across the world. The global poverty rate was cut by HALF in the last 24 years or so, and it keeps on plummeting year-after-year. People are living longer and healthier than ever. But all you Marxists wanna do is talk about the "bourgeoisie". GTFOH

Open up a book and read something before you embarrass yourself again with that Socialist nonsense

[Based]

Aabaha was you ignorant slut.

What in the world makes you think industrialization/technological innovation and socialism are mutually exclusive? It's a simple fact that the capitalist system by necessity needs a large and relatively powerless underclass that toils day in and day out to create wealth for our esteemed "job creators". It's no wonder when the capitalist system fails, governments funnel billions of dollars to their corporate masters, effectively using tax payer money to subsidize their losses in what amounts to socialism for the rich, while the average Joe whose house the aforementioned corporation just foreclosed is told to get a job and while people like you are fed a steady diet of neoliberal bullshit and invisible hand holy spirit economics, since capitalism is apparently God's way of determining who is smart and who is poor.

[TheMailMan]

This is how I know you were born retarded. The Government giving billions of dollars to corporations isn't capitalism you idiot. That's cronyism and that's just as bad as socialism.

I believe in free markets, and free markets have been proven to create a better standard of living for everyone. Just look at the difference between West Germany and East Germany. You xayawaan

But yeah. Keep swallowing the socialist propaganda by your Marxist slavemasters

[Based]

Surprise, surprise, the fetal khat syndrome victim struggles with reading comprehension. What part of socialism for the rich don't you understand? The corporatocracy that inevitably forms from the ashes of capitalism results in tax payer money being used to routinely subsidize corporations that ought not exist, in essence having all the wealth in a society trickling up while the average prole (Mailman) extols the virtues of a system that will have him pay the same corporations and banks that literally just repossessed his vehicle or foreclosed his home, while the CEO of the company he currently labors for earns a thousand times his wage yet would deny him the most basic safety/health regulations and benefits if they could get away with it.

The income inequality faced by capitalist societies will inevitably bring this system to its knees sooner or later anyway. You can't expect 1% of the population to enjoy the fruits of the 99%'s labor indefinitely. I'll never understand how you Uncle Tom danyeers break your backs over an assembly line in some factory and still find the energy to praise Shaykhs Hayek and Friedman.

[TheMailMan]

Again, you're running around in circles making the same claims which I've already addressed. Learn to read what I've already written you incoherent airhead. Everyone is against crony capitalism and "socialism for the rich".... but for you to equate that with "Free Market Capitalism" shows you for the dim-wit that you are. Audhubilah, get yourself together and think before you speak!

Free market capitalism has existed for thousands of years, in every society. And it is an economic system which relies on investments in machines and technology to maximize production of goods and services. Even when you look at a country like India (which is growing rapidly) you will see that they pushed their economy in a free-market direction. The same thing goes on in South Korea, Vietnam, China, Rwanda, Botswana and many countries around the globe.

Socialism is a failure. The 20th century is proof of that. We Somalis need a free-market economic system which allows businesses to flourish and to compete with each other, to hep build our economy.

If you want to kiss the ass of your socialist master Karl Marx, then go right ahead. No pride wallahi

[TheMailMan]

At least with free markets, you have competition.

When the Government is the one doing the hiring, people get lazy and slack off. Hence you see in Somalia, government "ministries" where the workers are often sleeping on the job or even skipping work altogether.....while getting paid in the process.

If someone did that in a corporation, he would be fired. Due to competition and increased labor costs, they're forced to maximize productivity and lazy bums generally lose their jobs.

[Itrah]

Western countries do not have true capitalism. Especially not the US, it's a total bogus economy based on printing dollars and the government manipulating prices around the world with bots on Wall Street. Forex rigging, commodity price fixing, LIBOR rate manipulation are just the tip of the iceberg of what we know.

Notice how the crash in crude oil and nat gas prices roughly coincided with Putin acting up in Ukraine against the will of the US?

Free market my ass.

[TheMailMan]

Western countries do not have true capitalism. Especially not the US, it's a total bogus economy based on printing dollars and the government manipulating prices around the world with bots on Wall Street. Forex rigging, commodity price fixing, LIBOR rate manipulation are just the tip of the iceberg of what we know.

Notice how the crash in crude oil and nat gas prices roughly coincided with Putin acting up in Ukraine against the will of the US?

Free market my ass.

Yes, you're correct. Western nations DO NOT have a true free-market system. It's just crony capitalism which is the worst system.

Somalia needs a free-market system.