How many years have Muslims got left in the West?

[mrdegdeg]

You're not leaving, your siblings aren't leaving, your parents aren't leaving and the future families you will be raising will not be leaving.

And those that do will spend 6 months back home and 6 months in the West to access health care and have their bi-annual appts with their caseworkers to still qualify for their welfare checks that are wired to them through Amal Express. And also because they love the West and everything it has to offer. This is why even the biggest anti West Somalis like Gurey and 1nemansquad will not renounce their Western citizenship. They will fall into depression if the government stripped them of their passports. They will cry.

Respect to those that do really leave and help our people back home. Mad respect

I've been hearing this for over a decade. Its not happening. Maybe 10% will go back and be part time residents.

Somalis secretly love the West. They are hypocrites. They bash the West over some religious duty to hate the gaal. Its lip service.

Anyways if your leaders were not puppets the gaal wouldn't be having a presence in your countries. Take a page out of the Eritrea handbook. Probably be given a few sanctions but its not like Somalia has any industries to speak of. Sanctions would have very little effect when 90% of the people depend on remittances and the other 1% are pushing khat.

The truth of the matter is, the West is smarter than us. Someone has to rule the world. If we were smart like them we would be doing the same thing they do in Africa but in Europe and N.A.

I am,

Abdi "Dont hate the player hate the game" Johnson

The west ain't smarter than Muslim world sxb, they need the Muslim world more than they like to admit. Somalis that live in the West do it for simply a better future. When Somalia starts to develop itself again you will see a big migration back. And who said we hate the west lol, maybe its you who hates Somalia and loves the West ?

[gurey25]

Why should I renounce my western citizenship?
I am western on upbringing and thinking.
I dont know about the others but for me its more about ideology than religion.
I want for everyone else no matter their religion what I want for myself.
And I consider mon muslims of the same thinking to be brothers and " muslims" that are pro establishment and pro status quo to be the enemy.

[AbdiJohnson]

Degdeg, the Somali people have a special place in my heart. All my friends are Somali despite living in a multicultural setting. I can't hate Somalia. Its impossible.

Gurey, you have softened your anti Western rhetoric when I brought up your Australian citizenship and have regarded yourself as one of us despite your views being known to all.

I am,

Abdi "You can be saved" Johnson

[gurey25]

mate my views are shared by a growing number of australian of all walks of life, and Americans and Europeans.
I consider them brothers in arms.
The world does not quite correspond to the image you have.

and ofcourse i am anti-establishment, not anti-western
There is good and bad everywhere, and the west has allot of good to offer the world.
problem is today the west offers more evil than good.

[mrdegdeg]

Degdeg, the Somali people have a special place in my heart. All my friends are Somali despite living in a multicultural setting. I can't hate Somalia. Its impossible.

Gurey, you have softened your anti Western rhetoric when I brought up your Australian citizenship and have regarded yourself as one of us despite your views being known to all.

I am,

Abdi "You can be saved" Johnson

Lol .. Are you not Somali. All my friends are Somali kulaha. It's same as saying I'm not racist I have lots of black friends. Why so much hatred for Somalia sxb?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Degdeg, the Somali people have a special place in my heart. All my friends are Somali despite living in a multicultural setting. I can't hate Somalia. Its impossible.

I am,

Abdi "You can be saved" Johnson

You must be on some powerful drugs to achieve such cognitive dissonance. You hate Somalis, at least be brave enough to admit that.

[1nemansquad]

before it was 'if you don't like the West, then leave'
i left
now its, denounce your citizenship.. for what? i paid for this piece of paper and its quite convenient and helps me get around for my personal gain

[waraabe251]

Degdeg, the Somali people have a special place in my heart. All my friends are Somali despite living in a multicultural setting. I can't hate Somalia. Its impossible.

I am,

Abdi "You can be saved" Johnson

You must be on some powerful drugs to achieve such cognitive dissonance. You hate Somalis, at least be brave enough to admit that.

Criticism of Somali culture is not hating, I believe slave of Johnson is probably the only person who truly loves somalis and you too, if we are not critical of anything how can we improve

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I'm not attacking him for criticism. I respect anyone with legitimate criticism and puts forward solutions in an elegant manner. Somalia has so many problems you can write a 10 volume epic on it. My problem is his uncle-tomfoolery and his penchant for finding any excuse for his masters no matter what they do. I also dislike arab-worshippers as well. He doesn't love Somalis and they are not his people, his people are the gaalo he so slavishly admires and praises.

[Murax]

AbdiJohnson,


What You are saying is actually the antithesis of being a citizen of a Country. Take myself for example, I was born, raised in America. I can dissent or not like something about what the Government does. I can be concerned about Islamaphobia. I can be a advocate for fair and equal rights for Muslims and not just 'Sit back and count My blessings that America allows me to live here' When I was actually born here. America everyone from Latinos, Jews, Blacks, etc. advocate for their rights and rightfully so. If You do not insist or demand from time to time that they are given to You it will be taken away.

[eliteSomali]

AJ: I thought you believed in freedom? Can't a person criticize parts of the west's way of ruling without you offering them a free ticket back home? Chill out son.

[SahanGalbeed]

Wallahi personnally I love France , the Queen and America .
France , because gaalo ayaa isoo korisay aniga , oo meeshan ku soo qaan- gaadhay weeye , ma'ogtahay ?
The Queen , si gaar ah baan u jeclahay islaantaas oo , arrimo la is waydiyo ma 'aha taasi ....
America , because of the freedom and dignity , I am happy with nothing here .

So in conclusion , I am good .

[Murax]

AJ: I thought you believed in freedom? Can't a person criticize parts of the west's way of ruling without you offering them a free ticket back home? Chill out son.

The problem When someone is just indoctrinated into something without naturally coming to certain realizations through research is they actually end up contradicting themselves because of their parrot/robotic nature. AbdiJohnson is a perfect example. Media elements that have a clear agenda against Islam paint certain pictures to score political points and some of our non critical thinkers drink it like Kool-Aid. Case in point the silly contradiction in viewing dissent, disapproval of the policies of a Democratic Country as being 'Ungrateful' and deserving of being sent back home. If people like AbdiJohnson had it their way Muslims in America would be Blacks under Jim Crow in the '60s. The blacks used to be told You're lucky to be here, if You don't like it leave.

[eliteSomali]

AJ: I thought you believed in freedom? Can't a person criticize parts of the west's way of ruling without you offering them a free ticket back home? Chill out son.

The problem When someone is just indoctrinated into something without naturally coming to certain realizations through research is they actually end up contradicting themselves because of their parrot/robotic nature. AbdiJohnson is a perfect example. Media elements that have a clear agenda against Islam paint certain pictures to score political points and some of our non critical thinkers drink it like Kool-Aid. Case in point the silly contradiction in viewing dissent, disapproval of the policies of a Democratic Country as being 'Ungrateful' and deserving of being sent back home. If people like AbdiJohnson had it their way Muslims in America would be Blacks under Jim Crow in the '60s. The blacks used to be told You're lucky to be here, if You don't like it leave.

Spot on! He's created dozens of threads telling people to go back home if they don't like it here. If someone criticizes western values, it doesn't automatically mean s/he hates the west. What happened to freedom of expression that AJ loves? You can't advocate for people to express their views openly only to deport them for that.

AJ needs to realize that if anyone hated the west, they would not be here.

[Murax]

EliteSomali,

He's literally owned and its quite sad. If You are the son of people who are benefiting from the financial rewards of the fallout of the way things are that would be one thing, but He's not. The Senator, Congressmen who dehumanizes Muslims at least gets campaign contributions, political stature, etc. The families of the Media outlets that repeat these slogans get to stay on the air and continue to make money peddling these heavily slanted agenda angles. What does Abdi Johnson get? Not a cent. That's the definition of mental enslavement. Its unfortunate.