presidents of somalia and djibouti touchdown baladweyne town

[Xildiiid]

southern dir did alot after 200k idoor lifes was taken away.

Marsin iska dhaantee abaayo.

[sahal80]

Maasha Allaah Hiiraan is very lucky, Djibouti are good and honest people who want to help Somalia. Hiiraan will be ahead of many regions in Somalia in terms of Security and Development because of Djibouti.

i can't say the same about Uganda and Ethiopia i don't think they care much about Somalia, all they want is their monthly money.

waiting enthusiastically the raise of the powerful central state!

There r great plans for the army in this region!

You know we form one SNA sector-sector 21at dhusomareb!

Plus the expected new chief of the army who will be HG!

[MarsinQorahay]

why u mad at djiboutians? jealous couse they are an recognized soverign country unlike your dirty idoor ass? long live djibouti.

[zumaale]

I can undertstand were you coming from, your a unionists, unconsciously

There's no dir power in the south and I'm being honest but if you would like join them in oir politics they can matter then

Djibouti is a modern state and NOT a clan enclave!!

Sahal, that is because they are not all in one province but you know very well numerically speaking, they are large but not politically or militarily active due to the religious nature of most of them. When there is freedom of movement, do you think we will continue to be scattered?

Furthermore, you know your qabils, what percentage of the Digil are Southern Dir? Ask a Jiido or Quranyow Maxamed, parts of Tunni and Dabarre to abtiris for you and you will see what I mean.

Lastly, influence comes from having technicos and you know the SNA is a biased Qabil army and the wars we face are not against a Qabil ony, it is against a Qabil that has the resources of a Dowlaad when it comes to bullets etc.

[Xildiiid]

why u mad at djiboutians? jealous couse they are an recognized soverign country unlike your dirty idoor ass? long live djibouti.

Marsin Abaayo,

Why would I be mad at Djibouti?

Somaliland precedes both Somalia and Djibouti as a sovereign state since it was the first Somali state to gain independence but unfortunately we gave up that sovereignty for the liberation of the dhaanto dancing, "Alla huunoy dhaxda jabi" singing Cagdheer in Hararghe, the Ciise Waraabe in the French oven and the Somalis in NFD.

Now where's that Dhaanto I asked you about? "Yarta dheereey.."

[xaliye123]

[quote="sahal80"]


Subxaanaka yaa cadiim. Odaygu ma sidanuu u shilisyahay.

[MarsinQorahay]

xildiid, u chose to get buttraped and colonized by the daroods during siyaad's time, instead of that you could have had the recognizion you were looking for the past 25 years, freaky hoë

[sahal80]

I can undertstand were you coming from, your a unionists, unconsciously

There's no dir power in the south and I'm being honest but if you would like join them in oir politics they can matter then

Djibouti is a modern state and NOT a clan enclave!!

Sahal, that is because they are not all in one province but you know very well numerically speaking, they are large but not politically or militarily active due to the religious nature of most of them. When there is freedom of movement, do you think we will continue to be scattered?

Furthermore, you know your qabils, what percentage of the Digil are Southern Dir? Ask a Jiido or Quranyow Maxamed, parts of Tunni and Dabarre to abtiris for you and you will see what I mean.

Lastly, influence comes from having technicos and you know the SNA is a biased Qabil army and the wars we face are not against a Qabil ony, it is against a Qabil that has the resources of a Dowlaad when it comes to bullets etc.

Lol I don't want to post that video but I have seen this man who carries the title suldaanka beesha dir claiming bari, 40 percent of mudug, 40% of galgaduud, 40% of hiiraan, the majority in jubooyinka claiming wardaay, jiido and garre, macalinwane loooool hilarious!!

What power you form in mudug? In galgaduud? In hiiraan? In middle shaballe? In banadir? In JL In southwest state? In PL?

Dir power only exists in waqooyi that's the fact sxb!

[sahal80]

Ok guys stop changing the topic

Zumaale

Yes there r scattered dir communities in the south

To form one province you must move to one area

In hiiraan we have two well-known two reer and they have rights like any other reer

Prez ghelle has said he will play his role to repair the relations with the two brotherly communities

[zumaale]

Sahal, I never said we are are the dominant group in the South but you cannot deny that our influence is lessened by the fact the we do not live in one area, especially the Surres. The biyomaal have nothing to worry about, they are the majority in Marka district and Jammaame. My argument was if a legitimate government what is stopping us from moving to one place? Nothing!

As for the Wardaay, they take their seats under Dir. Wasn' t it Suldaanka (Ibroow) Jiido in Carte who wanted to take up his seat as a Dir but was convinced to do otherwise. Garre labo weeyan, Quraanyow are Dir, ciid kaasto waa oog, Tuuf waa Gardheere Samaale. As for Macalinweyne waa gashanbuur, qeyb waa Ogaaden, qeyb waa Cabdalla Sacad Muuse. We can debate the identity of clans another time Sahal but you know as well as I do the origins of different Samaale people.

The so called Suldaan exists on paper, there has been nothing like a United Dir sultan for almost a millennium. Waxas waa sheeko xarir.

[Xildiiid]

xildiid, u chose to get buttraped and colonized by the daroods during siyaad's time, instead of that you could have had the recognizion you were looking for the past 25 years, freaky hoë

Marsin Abaayo,

I know you're hurt.

Siyaad Barre was a mere Zaptie, a middle aged man wearing shorts like a colonial school boy. At the night of the revolution he was serving tea to Cigaal.

He somehow managed to outwit the leading generals of the Somali army and he grabbed the top seat. For 21 years he was trying to settle scores with rival clans in particular the Isaaq but also Hawiye. He rewrote history, made starving clansmen diplomats to foreign countries, he used the Somali army and foreign mercenaries to settle historical scores (he was a pioneer, Cabdullahi Yusuf learnt it from him) etc. but where did he end up and what power does Darood have today abaayo?

We, Somalilanders, sacrificed 31 years for other Somalis. Today we're on our way to regain our long lost sovereignty while you're forced to have peace talks with your colonialists, who kidnap your representatives and murder them in foreign countries. Ayaan daro

[1moonlight]

Maasha Allaah Hiiraan is very lucky, Djibouti are good and honest people who want to help Somalia. Hiiraan will be ahead of many regions in Somalia in terms of Security and Development because of Djibouti.

i can't say the same about Uganda and Ethiopia i don't think they care much about Somalia, all they want is their monthly money.

waiting enthusiastically the raise of the powerful central state!

There r great plans for the army in this region!

You know we form one SNA sector-sector 21at dhusomareb!

Plus the expected new chief of the army who will be HG!

Central State in the Long Future will be a powerful state but they will be facing many many obstacles including all the different clans who hate each other, but the biggest obstacle to Central State will be the Mudug issue and the rest of Hawiye clans like Duduble, Murusade who will want to lead the state and they will give HG a hard time.
if the international community the UN/EU and AU give their support to Central State then all Garoowe will do is cry only because they wont be able to challenge HabarGidir plus almost half of Hawiye plus some Daarood and Dir in Central State.

but Hiiraan and Shabeelada Dhexe will be the best and the most peaceful state if the two largest clans in the regions Mudulood and Xawaadle understand each other and work together the rest of the clans will be Looma ooyaan, Xawaadle and Mudulood have so much in common, so best of luck to them.

by the way do you have any idea what the new state will be called? and do you think Cali Maxamed Geedi have the chance to becoming the president? i know half of Mudulood supports Geedi, what about Xawaadle? will they support Geedi or they have a beef with him?

[sahal80]

Sahal, I never said we are are the dominant group in the South but you cannot deny that our influence is lessened by the fact the we do not live in one area, especially the Surres. The biyomaal have nothing to worry about, they are the majority in Marka district and Jammaame. My argument was if a legitimate government what is stopping us from moving to one place? Nothing!

As for the Wardaay, they take their seats under Dir. Wasn' t it Suldaanka (Ibroow) Jiido in Carte who wanted to take up his seat as a Dir but was convinced to do otherwise. Garre labo weeyan, Quraanyow are Dir, ciid kaasto waa oog, Tuuf waa Gardheere Samaale. As for Macalinweyne waa gashanbuur, qeyb waa Ogaaden, qeyb waa Cabdalla Sacad Muuse. We can debate the identity of clans another time Sahal but you know as well as I do the origins of different Samaale people.

The so called Suldaan exists on paper, there has been nothing like a United Dir sultan for almost a millennium. Waxas waa sheeko xarir.

I think you should regroup like sheekhal did, today they have district in xamar not all of them were born in there

They also formed one district in the somali region/kililka after 2000s

[zumaale]

Sahal, I never said we are are the dominant group in the South but you cannot deny that our influence is lessened by the fact the we do not live in one area, especially the Surres. The biyomaal have nothing to worry about, they are the majority in Marka district and Jammaame. My argument was if a legitimate government what is stopping us from moving to one place? Nothing!

As for the Wardaay, they take their seats under Dir. Wasn' t it Suldaanka (Ibroow) Jiido in Carte who wanted to take up his seat as a Dir but was convinced to do otherwise. Garre labo weeyan, Quraanyow are Dir, ciid kaasto waa oog, Tuuf waa Gardheere Samaale. As for Macalinweyne waa gashanbuur, qeyb waa Ogaaden, qeyb waa Cabdalla Sacad Muuse. We can debate the identity of clans another time Sahal but you know as well as I do the origins of different Samaale people.

The so called Suldaan exists on paper, there has been nothing like a United Dir sultan for almost a millennium. Waxas waa sheeko xarir.

I think you should regroup like sheekhal did, today they have district in xamar not all of them were born in there

They also formed one district in the somali region/kililka after 2000s

We Surre already have land in Mudug/Galgudud and Gedo/Ethiopian region but it is not connected. You will find that we even have large farmland land in J/Hoose and S/Hoose. Other Faqi Surres are found all the way in Kilinka but they are Geeljires. Some are even in Bari like the Cumar Muuse and Cabaas Muuse. However, Sheekhals in Somalia are not that large, unlike Ethiopia and a district in Xamar will not fit all of us. We just have to decide which of our territories to concentrate ourselves in.

[STARKAST]

If only my Somalis could exhibit the same hostility to the only real entities that shackle them down aka Qabil, ignorance and foreign agitators.....