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three6mafia wrote:Walle this is funny. Niggas back home would give up their xiniyo to tahrib to the West idiinkana you guys are tryna tahrib back home.
Lol cause they have a messed up view of the West. The ones who make it to Europe realize how shitty life is out here, but are stuck cause they can't afford/don't have the papers to come back.
BV: yes, everything is QadrAllah, but when I said make dua I meant pray that Allah protects us from a crazy lunatic.
three6mafia wrote:Walle this is funny. Niggas back home would give up their xiniyo to tahrib to the West idiinkana you guys are tryna tahrib back home.
Lol cause they have a messed up view of the West. The ones who make it to Europe realize how shitty life is out here, but are stuck cause they can't afford/don't have the papers to come back.
BV: yes, everything is QadrAllah, but when I said make dua I meant pray that Allah protects us from a crazy lunatic.
Yeah but at the same time.people in the West take their living standards and just living in the west in general for granted. I can only speak for North America. If you live in faakhri UK taas waabo sheeko kalay
There's definitely good things living here, but also you're exposed to a lot of messed up things. Gangs, drugs, extreme liberalism, and other types of fuckery you wouldn't normally see back home, though they're starting to pick up on some of things now...
BlackVelvet wrote:I had a plan and I was going to move as soon as .... then I found a potentially more lucrative path that would keep me here longer (maybe even settling here) lakin with Muslims set to be the next Jews of Europe and history is looking like it's going to repeat itself, I'm not sure I want to risk being in a concentration camp for any amount of money.
Do you think it's all going to die down or is this the beginning of the end for Muslims in Europe?
Methylamine wrote:There's definitely good things living here, but also you're exposed to a lot of messed up things. Gangs, drugs, extreme liberalism, and other types of fuckery you wouldn't normally see back home, though they're starting to pick up on some of things now...
these are not good excuses theres drugs and gangs everywhere even in somalia liberals are harmless.
BlackVelvet wrote:I had a plan and I was going to move as soon as .... then I found a potentially more lucrative path that would keep me here longer (maybe even settling here) lakin with Muslims set to be the next Jews of Europe and history is looking like it's going to repeat itself, I'm not sure I want to risk being in a concentration camp for any amount of money.
Do you think it's all going to die down or is this the beginning of the end for Muslims in Europe?
BlackVelvet wrote:I had a plan and I was going to move as soon as .... then I found a potentially more lucrative path that would keep me here longer (maybe even settling here) lakin with Muslims set to be the next Jews of Europe and history is looking like it's going to repeat itself, I'm not sure I want to risk being in a concentration camp for any amount of money.
Do you think it's all going to die down or is this the beginning of the end for Muslims in Europe?
We have been saying we will go back for many years now. Infact, I met many non-Somali friends who told me their parents have never settled properly in the West and have always yearned to move back home once their children grow up and finish their education. What eventuates is some of their parents do go back and retire in their countries of origin which is peaceful, cheaper and would be considered upper middle class with their savings and their superannuation. However, they leave behind their children and their young families who want to educate their children in the West and this forms family dislocation.
Let us be real, where will a Somali who isn't a sijui go back to? Many have tried and gave up the idea due to lack of opportunities, safety and accessing good education and medical care for them and their children. Even if we go back, one will be forced to settle in his tribal homeland and uprooted from his original settlement because of qabyaalad. If you are a Somali from Nordic countries, you have the opportunity to live multiple countries, same for those in the U.S, Canada, Australia and in New Zealand who could with ease move to another State or region if their choice. We haven't worked out why the case should be like this for quarter of a century.
Those who fled Somalia as children took the qabyaalad baton from their parents. Regardless of their educational achievements or not, they keep alive (see qolka politics aka qabyaaladda) the balkanisation of Somalia into KaboLand and DacasLand. Which Somalia are we going back to? Tahriibs see and understand the realities on the ground but still prefer to go through a dangerous journey if they could reach their destination and be accepted. All these factors and many more, dhexda xidho, fight for your Rights as a Muslim citizen because meek loo socdo ayaa jidhin.
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Methylamine wrote:There's definitely good things living here, but also you're exposed to a lot of messed up things. Gangs, drugs, extreme liberalism, and other types of fuckery you wouldn't normally see back home, though they're starting to pick up on some of things now...
these are not good excuses theres drugs and gangs everywhere even in somalia liberals are harmless.
Sax I think what brother Meth was trying to say is that it's much easier to be a practicing Muslim in Somalia, since it is a Muslim country after all. Theres far less fitna down there. But like you hinted at, even Somalia has all of those things he mentioned but to a lesser degree.
Also another strong selling point for me to go back home is family. It varies from person to person but my family is middle class to low class and rely on family members like myself, siblings, and parents to support them financially when shit gets rough. Since I "made it" and will be graduating soon with a decent paying job IA I feel obligated to help my fam back home and it would be ceeb for me to go back home and chill. People in the cafimaad industry can make a good living but the rest of us aren't so fortunate.
max 15 years, don't see myself in the west even in the next 10 years to be honest, I think I will going on holidays to places where I might relocate in the future, I plan going to Africa this summer, next will be Asia, after that South america.