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Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:25 pm
by Grant
One more time: You can't have an eviction or displacement from a building in which no one has ever lived. That building was razed during early construction, probably because it didn't have a permit. Where is the link to the article?
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:33 pm
by jalaaludin5
Grant wrote:One more time: You can't have an eviction or displacement from a building in which no one has ever lived. That building was razed during early construction, probably because it didn't have a permit. Where is the link to the article?

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Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:42 pm
by Tanker
Israel has crossed the line fuck Israel
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:55 pm
by Murax
Why are people shocked. To the victor goes the spoils that is the rule of Man from the beginning of time. Whether it was Persia, Ancient Rome, Alexander the Great, Caliphates, etc. to Russia/Crimea, Ethiopia with Somalia, Israel with Palestine, etc. This is just how the world works.
That said realize as Somalis You Yourself are under occupation today. Nin la haysto muxuu xureyn?
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:59 pm
by tmac
GAMES wrote:anzeloti wrote:Israel is full of immigrated Russian/East European ''jews'' which are behind all of this.the asli yahuudis (middle easterns) are against this but are outnumbered by European jews.
And this is what I don't understand, how a Russian Jew who has no connection to the Mideast can come in and take land from Palestinians who lived and farmed there for thousands of years.
It's really scary world we live in.
Because...............Bible, and God, and Jesus, blah blah. Christianity is such a shit f-king religion. The Evangelical Christians in USA, who are extremely powerful, believe Jesus will return in Jerusalem, and the land belongs to Jews. A two state solution goes against their Bible. There can NEVER be peace.
This is what happens when you inject the Bible into public policy.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:05 pm
by tmac
FieldMarshalMenace wrote:Congrats to Israel ..it is none of my business..their brethrens are competing to build the biggest tower in Dubai, Jeddah and Doha...so wh, me, a Somali who they consider an Abiid should give a rats ass abt an Arab being humiliated ?...long live Israel
I wouldnt go as far as congratulating Israel. They have done so many terrible things. But I do agree on your wider points. Saudi Arabia have expelled thousands of homeless refugee Palestinians, while they are sucking cadaan cock. I dont give a rats ass about Arabs being displaced and humiliated either. Just like they dont care about Muslims in Mali being displaced or Muslims in Central African Republic getting killed by Christians.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:09 pm
by tmac
Murax wrote:
That said realize as Somalis You Yourself are under occupation today. Nin la haysto muxuu xureyn?
I remember as a child In the late 90's I saw Somali Mosques would raise serious money for the Palestinians, while our own folks were in the midst of a deadly civil war.
Im not saying one cant do 2 things simultaneously, but since we're pretty low on Arabs' list of priorities, they shouldn't even be on the list of our priorities.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:10 pm
by FAH1223
Grant wrote:Is there a link to the article?
The photos don't seem to fit the words. That "three-story house" was only framed through the first story. It is incomplete and does not appear to have been lived in. I suspect that what happened is they didn't get a building permit,
which is a standard Israeli roadblock to new Arab construction and something they can legally do as long as the area is under occupation.
On another front, the Israeli courts stopped the demolition of a Beduin village in the Negev, to which many Israelis believe they have a legal claim.
(It's not the West Bank or Gaza, where they clearly have no permanent legal claim.)
"The Beersheba District Court on Thursday stopped the state from demolishing 51 homes making up the Beduin village of al-Sara in the South."
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Cour ... uth-351129
At least it"s the Israeli courts, and not the settlers, that are having the final say.
*spits out my rice pudding*

Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:29 pm
by Grant
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 11606.html
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 34653.html
Front Page Aljazeera.
The Israeli election is tight and the Obama/Netanyahu rift is not playing well. The center and everybody left favors a two-state solution, which is code for withdrawal from the occupied lands. Sentiment is strong enough that even Bibi has had to declare for it. Keep in mind that Likud has only had a small plurality and could end up not even included in the next coalition government.
Biko and some of you others speak to the black and the white and forget the grey and the brown....
Fah,
See especially the examples of military occupations down at the bottom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupation
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:34 pm
by SaciidAyanleh
People tend to forget the Arab aggression that justifies Israel's militaristic position.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:52 pm
by Kareem99
Grant wrote:Is there a link to the article?
The photos don't seem to fit the words. That "three-story house" was only framed through the first story. It is incomplete and does not appear to have been lived in. I suspect that what happened is they didn't get a building permit, which is a standard Israeli roadblock to new Arab construction and something they can legally do as long as the area is under occupation.
On another front, the Israeli courts stopped the demolition of a Beduin village in the Negev, to which many Israelis believe they have a legal claim.
(It's not the West Bank or Gaza, where they clearly have no permanent legal claim.)
"The Beersheba District Court on Thursday stopped the state from demolishing 51 homes making up the Beduin village of al-Sara in the South."
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Cour ... uth-351129
At least it"s the Israeli courts, and not the settlers, that are having the final say.
True, many of these horrific laws are legal inside the state of Israel. The bulldozing of houses inside occupied territories, however, is illegal according to international laws. The whole occupation is in contravention to international laws. The USA (Israel's most ardent ally) is at odds with Israel with regards to the settlement issue.
So what Grant is saying is it was LEGAL for South Africa to maintain apartheid inside the State of South Africa, even though the rest of the World knew how disgusting it was. I don't know why he would go to the lengths of even mention that, to be honest.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:01 pm
by original dervish
I'm always with the oppressed, dispossessed no matter the race.

Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:05 pm
by SolidCamel
original dervish wrote:I'm always with the oppressed, dispossessed no matter the race.

Yeah, there's no being neutral in a conflict between the powerful and powerless.
But still, we got our own problems to fix. I see more outcry against Israel by Somalis on my news feed than anything that goes on in Somalia.
Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:09 pm
by original dervish
Somalia is a mess because of Somali's first and foremost.

Re: Business as usual in ISRAEL
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:14 pm
by Kareem99
Somalida aan u duceeyno, ee wax aanu qabano. Laakin in walaaleheena Muslimiinta ah in aan u duceeyo taasne ma xuma, meel walba ee joogaan. Neceebkaan oo Carabta loo qabo garan maayo. Fuck the racists, but let's not group racists and oppressed people under one umbrella, that's just beyond stupid.