Let's be honest about the age of Aisha (RA)

[Thuganomics]

Gaalo don't care. If you try to tell them that killing innocent civilians and suicide bombs are xaaraam, they'll just shake their heads and say "Nope, it's in the Kow'raan. I read it myself".

Fckem.

This and what hyper said.If a person has already has a clear mindset.Nothing on earth you say will dissuade.If,however,somebody is genuinely seeking knowledge then its a different case

[Present]

The mother of the Believer's aka Umm al -Mu'mineen, Aisha the daughter of 2nd Calpih Abu Bakr Al-Sidiq aka Abu Bakr the Honest and the wife of Rasool aka Prophet of Mercy pbuh

[bareento]

This is very interesting topik.

It shows how our understanding of religion evolves.
For 1400 years no muslim ever wondered if there is anything wrong with Aisha being 6/9 when married/consumption.
Now that we r in 21st century...we say wait a minute! lets look into these things differently and we adjust our discourse by more authentic/purely
fabricated hadis.


MashaAllah

B.

[AbdiJohnson]

Sunnis believe she was married at age 6 or 7 and the marriage was consummated at age 9. This is referenced from Sahih AlBukhari. The 18-19 year old age is a number thrown by the Ahmadis

Everyone was marrying young girls 1500 years ago. You shouldn't have to lie or make excuses to please the kufaar. Why deny the authentic hadith?

I am,

Abdi "There is no debate on this matter" Johnson

[zumaale]

No need for historical revisionism, the consensus among scholars and Islamic historians is that Ayesha RAC was married young, not as an adult female. No need to be an apologist whatever mud is thrown at us.

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

Sunnis believe she was married at age 6 or 7 and the marriage was consummated at age 9. This is referenced from Sahih AlBukhari. The 18-19 year old age is a number thrown by the Ahmadis

Everyone was marrying young girls 1500 years ago. You shouldn't have to lie or make excuses to please the kufaar. Why deny the authentic hadith?

I am,

Abdi "There is no debate on this matter" Johnson

You're not even a Muslim so I don't know why this matter even concerns you. Unless of course, you want to justify your Islamaphobia by saying that Aisha (RA) was nine years old when she married the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH).

[ZubeirAwal]

No need for historical revisionism, the consensus among scholars and Islamic historians is that Ayesha RAC was married young, not as an adult female. No need to be an apologist whatever mud is thrown at us.

It;s not about being a apologist, it's about setting things straight, if the founder of the Maliki school Imam Malik (RA) who was taught by Nafi (RA) who was taught by Abdullah (RA) who was taught by Umar (RA) rejected all hadiths that came from Iraq, why can't I?


Also, all hadith books describe the importance of the memory of the one transmitting a hadith, if he is of old age and near decripitude what he/she says can infact be incorrect, no wonder why there are hadiths in the same Sahih Bukhari that contradict the hadith of Aisha being the age of 9 (RA).

AJ, nigga stfu you ain't even a muslim, damn house negro.

[SiennaEarth]

Why does it matter if he married her at 9? So what? My grandmother got married at the age of 12 and that was over 50 years ago. So what makes you think things were the same as they are now 14000 years ago? If people married that young 50 something years ago you can only imagine how society was 1400 years ago. Also a 100 years ago or so the legal age in America used to be 10, YES 10! A lot of prophets married young girls in the bible. It's not something odd or that needs our explanation and defence. Things back in those days simply weren't the same as they are now and girls back then aren't as they are now. Girls matured much faster. Also like hyper said there was no birth certificates to prove anyones age. But for sure the marriage of Aisha and the prophet (saw) was consummated after she got her period and technically a girl who has her period can have a baby and if you can have a baby you can get married, especially in those days. I don't see the pedophilia in it.

[tmac]

Sunnis believe she was married at age 6 or 7 and the marriage was consummated at age 9. This is referenced from Sahih AlBukhari. The 18-19 year old age is a number thrown by the Ahmadis

Everyone was marrying young girls 1500 years ago. You shouldn't have to lie or make excuses to please the kufaar. Why deny the authentic hadith?

I am,

Abdi "There is no debate on this matter" Johnson

Yep. Everyone were marrying young girls in the 7th century. This wasn't unique to Arab culture. I dont understand why Muslims get defensive over this. I'd just explain to them that everyone did from Kings, Emperors etc. across all cultures and civilisations.

I'd like to go on and talk about the difficult problem Islam has that can't be explained by anyone, but I dont wanna get banned.

[Cherine]

^Don't you have better things to do in your life as a Gaal than perrenially blathering about a religion you left?

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Everyone was marrying young girls 1500 years ago. You shouldn't have to lie or make excuses to please the kufaar. Why deny the authentic hadith?

I am,

Abdi "There is no debate on this matter" Johnson

yes its true 1500 years ago every body was marrying 9 years old girls.. and everybody also had Slaves-- Porphet muhhamed sc had many slaves.. and he sold and bought slaves... prophet sc was doing what average man whould do in year 675 AD..

[Leftist]

She was most definitely over the age of 18

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-david- ... 14332.html

For those of you who are insisting that she was 6 years old(what a fantastic lie, why not make her 3 years old?) because it says so in a hadith, I can pull out a hadith that says a runaway slave's prayers will never be accepted, that doesn't make it true.

Hadiths are always to be weighed, read, understood, and interpreted with our Ebbe-given caqli, instead of going literally by what some fallible human being thought he might've heard once upon a time upon the authority of hebel who was also a fallible human being who could easily just make a hadith up for any reason. Note: this does not mean that we should just throw out hadiths, no, what it does mean is that we should carefully weigh and examine every hadith.

Scenario:

Chloera breaks out in a refugee camp. It's a basic scientific fact that cholera is spread by flies. flies start flying into the communal kichen where all the food is prepared. Camp workers decide to throw out the food to avoid spreading the cholera even further. They are stopped by Mailman who pulls out a sahih hadith and a Ina Baz/Ina Uthayman super-combo-fatwa that states a fly carries poison in one wing and a cure in the other and that that the correct procedure is to dip the flies in the food/drinks so that the poison and cure can "balance" each other out.

Camp workers resist and tell Mailman he's a crazy son of a xaawo and to gtfo the kitchen. Mailman calls for back-up, Zumaale(still closeted), grandpakhalid, and Murax arrive and they all insist that Mailman is right. Camp workers are over-ruled and they are forced to dip the cholera-carrying flies in all the food. Outcome? Contained cholera outbreak turns into a chloera epidemic, thousands perish.

Mailman & Brehs says: "verily, it was the will of God for all these people to die. God wills it"

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So I guess what I'm trying to say is, politely of course: Stop being f-king doqons and repeating bullshit that Islamaphobes thrive on, like sheekada ah marrying a 6 year old is allowed. It's not. In fact, there should be a law that states nobody under the age of 16 can get married.

[AbdiJohnson]

Revisionist self-styled liberal Muslim mufti Leftist who has issued an earlier fatwa declaring interest halal..... is now contradicting Sahih Al Bukhari and the Sunnis. What next? A man can have four husbands?

I am,

Abdi "Give it a rest" Johnson

[Leftist]

^^
If you lack the raw intelligence to understand the difference between usury and interest, whose fault is that? One thing you share in common with literalist-purists is your wish for Islam to be understood literally with no room for context or nuance. You do so because, in your feeble mind, it justifies your decision to leave Islam, when you are wholly ignorant(technical use of the word, not derogatory) of Islamic history, axkaam, or maqaasid.

A man can have four husbands?

Freudian slip? Do you think it is "revisionist" of me to say that what you do in the privacy of your basement at 2 am is nobody's business but your own? Just keep the qaniis'nimo indoors

I am,

Mufti " Come back home, son, come back to the deen" Leftist

[abdikarim86]

It's an Axad Xadiith meaning it is singly transmitted.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I am under the assumption
Axad Xadiith is not important when it comes to Aqeeda (articles of faith).
Only the Qur'aan and Muwattir Xadiith is.

That being said, I believe the classical imams where more nuanced in their
interpretation of Axaadiith ...

It is only in modern times with the rise of certain groups you see the
mentality of being considered an unbeliever if you do not believe that an Axad Xadiith
has a place in Aqeeda