Jugjugwacwac DNA results

[LeJusticier]

LeJusticier, horta have you tested yet?

yes

Bro where have been all those years?

Haha, bal ii warran, E1b1b1a?

I have been around bro, just dont get a chance to post much

To be honest I am planning genealogy test. I have Ogayslabe friend...and he was shock to found out his Maltese ancestry. Waa tii la odhan jiray Ogayslabe waa Hindi.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Hargeisa today is ten times better than it was under afweyne. Me and Hargaysaay are the only two Isaaq Somaliweynists on here. We both despise the ictiraaf mantra. But there is one thing we will never do and that's legitimise a brutal and predatory regime that ended up killing more Somalis than any foreigner has managed to do in the history of the Somali people. A regime so incompetent that before it's collapse was on a lifeline of Aid and financial support. So much for the myth of self-sufficiency during the kacaan. Food, weapons and technology were subsidised by the Soviets then America. A regime that went from one policy blunder to the next. A regime that had only one city in the entire country and deprived other areas, especially the north of any capital or human investment. Even a tribalist Isaaq-hating pirate from puntland is willing to agree with those facts.

No true Somali, let alone a son of Isaaq, would ever say that the kacaan regime was anything other than a disaster.

[Togdeer]

Hargeisa today is ten times better than it was under afweyne. Me and Hargaysaay are the only two Isaaq Somaliweynists on here. We both despise the ictiraaf mantra. But there is one thing we will never do and that's legitimise a brutal and predatory regime that ended up killing more Somalis than any foreigner has managed to do in the history of the Somali people. A regime so incompetent that before it's collapse was on a lifeline of Aid and financial support. So much for the myth of self-sufficiency during the kacaan. Food, weapons and technology were subsidised by the Soviets then America. A regime that went from one policy blunder to the next. A regime that had only one city in the entire country and deprived other areas, especially the north of any capital or human investment. Even a tribalist Isaaq-hating pirate from puntland is willing to agree with those facts.

No true Somali, let alone a son of Isaaq, would ever say that the kacaan regime was anything other than a disaster.

[Ben Dover]

Hargeisa today is ten times better than it was under afweyne. Me and Hargaysaay are the only two Isaaq Somaliweynists on here. We both despise the ictiraaf mantra. But there is one thing we will never do and that's legitimise a brutal and predatory regime that ended up killing more Somalis than any foreigner has managed to do in the history of the Somali people. A regime so incompetent that before it's collapse was on a lifeline of Aid and financial support. So much for the myth of self-sufficiency during the kacaan. Food, weapons and technology were subsidised by the Soviets then America. A regime that went from one policy blunder to the next. A regime that had only one city in the entire country and deprived other areas, especially the north of any capital or human investment. Even a tribalist Isaaq-hating pirate from puntland is willing to agree with those facts.

No true Somali, let alone a son of Isaaq, would ever say that the kacaan regime was anything other than a disaster.

I would be interested to hear what made you a Somaliweynist, is it the incompetent leadership of Somaliland?

LeJusticier, you totally should my friend, some of the findings could be surprising in the health component of these tests.

[Based]

Clicked to see DNA results, found a cult instead

I didn't realize such an offhand comment would elicit this type of response, and I can't say I ever expected someone to be ex-communicated because they agreed with me...I guess that's a first.

@LH, before everyone takes turns publicly denouncing Jug, I distinctly remember you agreeing with my statement as well

[Thuganomics]

Clicked to see DNA results, found a
cult instead

That's rich coming from a Siyadist

[Jugjugwacwac]

Do you understand the concept of self-determination? It's the most important things on earth and I got it full stop.

Self-determination? You're acting like you were under the yolk of a foreign power or something. Bro, before the SNM was created, and many of the Isaaq in the kacaan defected, we were well-represented in Afwayne's regime. This is a fact. Was his government corrupt and ruthless? Yes. But was it worth toppling it and plunging the south into perpetual chaos and anarchy and leaving Somaliland a fledgling nation, struggling to provide the basics for its citizens for decades to come? Not to mention the countless people who perished in the rebellions on all sides and the ugly clan wars that led to neighbour killing neighbour rwanda style, the wounds which are still yet to heal. And don't forget a lost and rudderless diaspora who are just one decade away from social break down levels similar to the african americans, with their single-moms, crime, violence and general degeneracy and lack of class. I personally wouldn't think it was worth it even if Somaliland was flourishing, because I can't help but feel the situation in the south is my plight too, because they're my peopl. But with Somaliland itself having nothing to offer its citizens except a fragile clan mediated peace, poverty, political limbo, predatory politicians and tahriib , leading our youth to die in the high seas, i'm even more convinced that the so called liberation war was in fact responsible for our bondage, placing our destinies squarely in the hands of filthy xabashis and san-gadhuudhi's, who only a couple of decades before would have trembled at the mention of the mighty Somali army. We Isaaqs are savvy and blessed with resources...we could've found another way instead of burning the house down.

[Jugjugwacwac]

Jugjugwacwac

Never accept being bullied into having opinion based on tribalism you made a logical response to 2 decades of human suffering much respect for you only a coward and small minded person will allow others to think for him.... and that includes a lot of darood people too....

Thanks bro. Ur right, we have extemists on all sides. To think they can't fathom me being isaaq purely because I disagree with them is mind-boggling to say the least. It just goes to show how people can become delusional when they rarely step out of their echo-chambers and circle-jerking sessions.

[Jugjugwacwac]

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[LiquidHYDROGEN]

@Based. I think I distinctly remember agreeing that Afweyne was not ruthless enough. I also said that he could have avoided the whole war if he simply allowed the North some concessions and liberties. No where did I say that I agreed with him or found him and his policies as anything except abhorrent.

[Thuganomics]

Jugjugwacwac

Never accept being bullied into having opinion based on tribalism you made a logical response to 2 decades of human suffering much respect for you only a coward and small minded person will allow others to think for him.... and that includes a lot of darood people too....

Thanks bro. Ur right, we have extemists on all sides. To think they can't fathom me being isaaq purely because I disagree with them is mind-boggling to say the least. It just goes to show how people can become delusional when they rarely step out of their echo-chambers and circle-jerking sessions.

Tanker is the same person that said she would have Isaaq children just so she could poison them.So much for been non delusional

[hargaysaay]

Qabiil is not the path to self purification .

[Jugjugwacwac]

@Based. I think I distinctly remember agreeing that Afweyne was not ruthless enough. I also said that he could have avoided the whole war if he simply allowed the North some concessions and liberties. No where did I say that I agreed with him or found him and his policies as anything except abhorrent.

So we agree more than we disagree then. Siyaad was bad, no doubt. And he should have either given concessions or quickly and swiftly put down the rebellion, with as minimal civilian casualities as possible. Where we differ is, you think that despite our current situation the war to topple him was worth it, while I don't. Doesn't mean i'm a kacaanist or that im pro siyaad barre.

[Jugjugwacwac]

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[Based]

That's rich coming from a Siyadist

I no longer subscribe to clannism or even the very notion of distinct Somali clans. I have always reaffirmed my belief that a poor government is preferable to no government. However, I also welcome a difference of opinion and have on more than one occasion expressed support for SL's right of self determination with a few small caveats.

@LH, that is essentially what I stated. I'm not some apologist for a terribly flawed government, but I do think that the quarter century of anarchy created by the power vacuum is infinitely worse than the old status quo.

@Jug