Are AMISOM Better Than Somali Forces.....

[SultanOrder]

I think certain clans like the Habar Gidir are fed up off fighting. Most of the issues they have is internal, and they seem to be content with Abgaal hegemony in Mogadishu. I think in the next 10-20 years there wont be any major clan wars happening in Somalia (excluding somaliland), but i doubt the clan system in place will disappear.

That is a rosy picture. When push comes to shove fiqii tolkii kama jano tago, and if clan hostilities happen again everyone will side with their qabil. I just hope that investments are so large war will not be seen as a good choice. But it's important that the government controls Xamar instead of any one qabil, it's the only way to maintain peace and prosperity.

[Estarix]

That is a rosy picture. When push comes to shove fiqii tolkii kama jano tago, and if clan hostilities happen again everyone will side with their qabil. I just hope that investments are so large war will not be seen as a good choice. But it's important that the government controls Xamar instead of any one qabil, it's the only way to maintain peace and prosperity.

But will do the pushing now? there's no such thing as clan oriented leadership since the maxamed dheere days. Dam Jadiid are hardly ever concerned themselfes with increasing Abgaal dominance (atleast at the expense of H.Gidir). I think it's good to be optimistic when it comes to Mogadishu, i cant see anyone wanting to destroy the hard earned peace that exists at the moment.

[SultanOrder]

That is a rosy picture. When push comes to shove fiqii tolkii kama jano tago, and if clan hostilities happen again everyone will side with their qabil. I just hope that investments are so large war will not be seen as a good choice. But it's important that the government controls Xamar instead of any one qabil, it's the only way to maintain peace and prosperity.

But will do the pushing now? there's no such thing as clan oriented leadership since the maxamed dheere days. Dam Jadiid are hardly ever concerned themselfes with increasing Abgaal dominance (atleast at the expense of H.Gidir). I think it's good to be optimistic when it comes to Mogadishu, i cant see anyone wanting to destroy the hard earned peace that exists at the moment.

Dude, Dam Jadid would be a nobody without Amisom backed System. This was not a result of the natural way of things. If Amisom left right now, who would recognize XSM for one day?

[GIJaamac]

lol @ these two niggas. There will never be a clan war in Xamar again. Taas ku seexda. It's the only somali city in the world which is actually progressing. No amount of habaar will send us back to darkness.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I just hope HG and Abgaal don't fight for power in Xamar. Amisom have totally put Abgaal in power in a city hotly contested and HG running most of the economic areas like the port and airport.

there is no power struggle between Abgaal and Habar gidir in xamar. Marmarka qaarkod waa iska hadashaa ninyahow.Reer Muqdisho has evolved and have realised qabiil wars doesn't serve their interests.Trust me if there was any beef between Abgaal and habar gidir dagaal mar hore uu dhici lahaa. Worry about Kismayo it wasn't that long ago when there was qabiil fightins in that town. Fyi Abgaal controll the port and the airport.

[zumaale]

there is no power struggle between Abgaal and Habar gidir in xamar. Marmarka qaarkod waa iska hadashaa ninyahow.Reer Muqdisho has evolved and have realised qabiil wars doesn't serve their interests.Trust me if there was any beef between Abgaal and habar gidir dagaal mar hore uu dhici lahaa. Worry about Kismayo it wasn't that long ago when there was qabiil fightins in that town. Fyi Abgaal controll the port and the airport.

Xamar unuka leh somaha.

[SultanOrder]

I just hope HG and Abgaal don't fight for power in Xamar. Amisom have totally put Abgaal in power in a city hotly contested and HG running most of the economic areas like the port and airport.

there is no power struggle between Abgaal and Habar gidir in xamar. Marmarka qaarkod waa iska hadashaa ninyahow.Reer Muqdisho has evolved and have realised qabiil wars doesn't serve their interests.Trust me if there was any beef between Abgaal and habar gidir dagaal mar hore uu dhici lahaa. Worry about Kismayo it wasn't that long ago when there was qabiil fightins in that town. Fyi Abgaal controll the port and the airport.

LOL save the bed time stories for children. Reer Muqdishu has evolved etc, things have improved, but that is because their is no clan that can fight AMISOM. Let's just hope the government evolves strong enough to maintain peace and order and no clan can fight it.

Did Abgaal control the airport or port before ICU?

Kismaayo, for the most part is safe and secure. I'm not worried about it.

[zumaale]

Slowly by slowly Abgal are regaining full control of their city. That is why you hear non Abgal clans calcalin in the media.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I just hope HG and Abgaal don't fight for power in Xamar. Amisom have totally put Abgaal in power in a city hotly contested and HG running most of the economic areas like the port and airport.

there is no power struggle between Abgaal and Habar gidir in xamar. Marmarka qaarkod waa iska hadashaa ninyahow.Reer Muqdisho has evolved and have realised qabiil wars doesn't serve their interests.Trust me if there was any beef between Abgaal and habar gidir dagaal mar hore uu dhici lahaa. Worry about Kismayo it wasn't that long ago when there was qabiil fightins in that town. Fyi Abgaal controll the port and the airport.

LOL save the bed time stories for children. Reer Muqdishu has evolved etc, things have improved, but that is because their is no clan that can fight AMISOM. Let's just hope the government evolves strong enough to maintain peace and order and no clan can fight it.

Did Abgaal control the airport or port before ICU?

Kismaayo, for the most part is safe and secure. I'm not worried about it.

bed times stories kulaha. Bro if u know anybody in xamar ask them. Ask around ,talk to people xog ogaal noqo intaadan nala doodin, madax adeyga reer muduga naga dhaaf. Dagaal qabiileed danbe will never happen in xamar.

lol@nobody can fight amisom argument. Cabdullahi yusuf with his xabashi soldiers ayaa xoog wax ku keeni lahaa hada saad sheegeysid wax ka jiraan. In the reality waxkasta waxey ku xiran tahay rabitaanka shacabka. Shacabkana dagaal iyo balaayo ma doonayaan hadeertan. Teeda kale Abgaal iyo habar gidir waa Hiiraab walaalaha waa is dagaalaan waana heshiiyaan.

[eliteSomali]

Its pathetic and disgusting. We need to stop hiring these odeyaal who are eating us out of house and home. A visionary is needed....not by my standards, but visionary compared to these baasto lagacla'aan fuuqeystayaal.

Marginalize the "ODAYAASHA WAX GARADKA" and a huge chunk of the problem is fixed.

[SultanOrder]

there is no power struggle between Abgaal and Habar gidir in xamar. Marmarka qaarkod waa iska hadashaa ninyahow.Reer Muqdisho has evolved and have realised qabiil wars doesn't serve their interests.Trust me if there was any beef between Abgaal and habar gidir dagaal mar hore uu dhici lahaa. Worry about Kismayo it wasn't that long ago when there was qabiil fightins in that town. Fyi Abgaal controll the port and the airport.

LOL save the bed time stories for children. Reer Muqdishu has evolved etc, things have improved, but that is because their is no clan that can fight AMISOM. Let's just hope the government evolves strong enough to maintain peace and order and no clan can fight it.

Did Abgaal control the airport or port before ICU?

Kismaayo, for the most part is safe and secure. I'm not worried about it.

bed times stories kulaha. Bro if u know anybody in xamar ask them. Ask around ,talk to people xog ogaal noqo intaadan nala doodin, madax adeyga reer muduga naga dhaaf. Dagaal qabiileed danbe will never happen in xamar.

lol@nobody can fight amisom argument. Cabdullahi yusuf with his xabashi soldiers ayaa xoog wax ku keeni lahaa hada saad sheegeysid wax ka jiraan. In the reality waxkasta waxey ku xiran tahay rabitaanka shacabka. Shacabkana dagaal iyo balaayo ma doonayaan hadeertan. Teeda kale Abgaal iyo habar gidir waa Hiiraab walaalaha waa is dagaalaan waana heshiiyaan.

Qabil wars are always perpetuated by the wealthy class, it's always been the case. ICU was able to take power because the merchant class switched sides from financially supporting the warlords to the ICU. As for footsoldiers, that is easy, each qabil can round up a thousand guys to fight if they get paid enough. The majority of people are just bystanders, so of course they are always against war.

[Murax]

To be honest I think in some places they would be better without them, some better with them.


Xamar, the Isbaarooyin did not go until they came. This isn't clannism but its just a fact. In Hiiraan I don't think they're needed neither in Middle Shabelle. As for Jubooyinka Kenya, Ethiopia they are not AMISOM and are mere extensions of Kilinka 5nd, NFD in Somalia. I think AMISOM it is simply just business, money but they do not have any real policy, territorial ambitions in Somalia. With Kenya, Ethiopia You name it from Sea, Land, they have ambition for control in Somalia.

[Estarix]

That is a rosy picture. When push comes to shove fiqii tolkii kama jano tago, and if clan hostilities happen again everyone will side with their qabil. I just hope that investments are so large war will not be seen as a good choice. But it's important that the government controls Xamar instead of any one qabil, it's the only way to maintain peace and prosperity.

But will do the pushing now? there's no such thing as clan oriented leadership since the maxamed dheere days. Dam Jadiid are hardly ever concerned themselfes with increasing Abgaal dominance (atleast at the expense of H.Gidir). I think it's good to be optimistic when it comes to Mogadishu, i cant see anyone wanting to destroy the hard earned peace that exists at the moment.

Dude, Dam Jadid would be a nobody without Amisom backed System. This was not a result of the natural way of things. If Amisom left right now, who would recognize XSM for one day?

I think if they left Alshabab would take over. And if that were not to happen then the government would have a long life or a short one depending on the relations the mogadishan clans would have the regime. A very shaky sort of existence. It would obviously need to have a clan system in place where majority of security forces in each district are in line with clan demographics. It would also need to give each clan in the city some position of power.

[Estarix]

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