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Re: What If The Horn Of Africa Was 1 Country ?

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lol @ Roble's 10 mill southern Somalis, where are they hiding at? your closet? Somalis and their retarded estimates.

2 million tigrays are more productive and better than 35 million oromos. Sometimes it's not all about the numbers.we would also be dominated because of our easily manipulative clan mindset. We would be too busy fighting over useless government posts and seats due to us not wanting to be outdone by other clans.
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Taas waa habaar

I think somalis are lucky to keep some of their country comparing to other races

The horn africa region should have been dominated by more muslim states

Put the christian amhara, tigray and their tigre muslim cousins together in one nation so they can have access to the sea

Oromo are not one ethnic group and they r more federation, the majority r muslims specially those next to us but i don't think they can ever unite under one state


Give back mombasa to zanjibar and keep kenya landlocked as it was before the 60s

Tanzania has more muslims but the christians claim having equal numbers, with the native indian religions plus mobasa it will be dominated by muslims
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Amhara dominance gaurenteed.

Even though the somali and Amhara population would be similiar.

10 million in southern somalia,
4 in somaliland
6 million in somali region
3 in kenya and at least 1 million around the rest of the world including djibouti.

thats about 24 million somalis on earth, 23 million in the horn

Amhara are 25 million

Oromo are 35 million.

Amahara will win and rule all because they are the ost cohesive and united,
somalis and oromos are all divided,
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Somalia has about 10 million ppl and almost a million are Bantu. So only 9 million Somalis in Somalia (including Somaliland).
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sahal80 wrote:Give back mombasa to zanjibar and keep kenya landlocked as it was before the 60s
Kenya was landlocked? Proof? :wtf:
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
sahal80 wrote:Give back mombasa to zanjibar and keep kenya landlocked as it was before the 60s
Kenya was landlocked? Proof? :wtf:
Yes when kenya was an internal self-government

Mombasa was annexed by joma kenyatta in 1963 after the independence with the help of the uk

All the somali and muslim torritories were lost bc of britain!

Italy though being bad to us was better than britain million times

Like france, italy was claiming the somali clans and lands

Take example for doolow, they annexed it for having rahanwan population at that time bc manalik was claiming ogaden with the help of britain

Then they annexed bajuni lands on banadiri bases!

But britain was looking at the north as butcher of cadan then they signed hawd for ethiopia!

Italy was building railways and was fighting against ethiopia, somalis were fighting in this war even siyad barre and other folks he joined italy from there-shilabo- as geeljire but has claimed officially to be born in gedo when italy lost the war for britain!

Why? Bc britain was supporting ethiopia, see the second map in the last link

Btw britain has stolen our railway and moved it to east africa and eritrea in these 8 years

We never had sea borders with kenya and this govt is now rejecting the territorial water demarcation between zanzibar and somalia-under italy in 1924 when jubbaland joined italian somalia

Before this all the east africa was known as british east africa including tangania, zanzibar and kenya.

I have no historical links now but whe I googled it I came across this link

How Mombasa became part of Kenya http://www.jamiiforums.com/kenyan-polit ... kenya.html

http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://it ... h8jB1qPGjQ

http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://en ... GlDVqCUp-Q

Baladweyne was saved with the help of italy
Olol Dinle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olol_Dinle
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Sahal,

Beledweyne is already part of Ethiopia. Berluula is doing eskista. Sahal talks too much without any solid facts of anything. As I type Ethiopians are switching the power generator in Beledweyne.
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In such a Union Somalis with their langaab numbers and lack of unity will quickly be marginalized the federal government will had moved millions of citizens from the other areas to Somalia. Somalis will attempt to create a secessionist republic but it will be defeated brutally by the federal army with millions of foot troops ready.
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I was contemplating the idea of reuniting maryooley first!
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Tanker wrote:In such a Union Somalis with their langaab numbers and lack of unity will quickly be marginalized the federal government will had moved millions of citizens from the other areas to Somalia. Somalis will attempt to create a secessionist republic but it will be defeated brutally by the federal army with millions of foot troops ready.
This.
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WaaliCas wrote:Sahal,

Beledweyne is already part of Ethiopia. Berluula is doing eskista. Sahal talks too much without any solid facts of anything. As I type Ethiopians are switching the power generator in Beledweyne.
Im imagining you as one of these with massive nilotic heads

what has this got to do this with the somalia on the map?

ethiopia controlls every region but the difference is that I hate this cursed injireey race while they mindfucked you in hawd to the point of worshiping them

thats the real colonalization


anyways aint bothered about your injireey love so stop following me everywhere if you dont lack concentration as you sound!
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Tanker wrote:In such a Union Somalis with their langaab numbers and lack of unity will quickly be marginalized the federal government will had moved millions of citizens from the other areas to Somalia. Somalis will attempt to create a secessionist republic but it will be defeated brutally by the federal army with millions of foot troops ready.
Ethiopia is already using this tactic by sending out Amhara settlers in practically all major cities in Ethiopia.

Look up the demographics of cities in the SNNP, Gumuz and Gambella region, they are all like +25% Amhara. The whole country is culturally getting Amharicized.
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Itrah wrote:
Tanker wrote:In such a Union Somalis with their langaab numbers and lack of unity will quickly be marginalized the federal government will had moved millions of citizens from the other areas to Somalia. Somalis will attempt to create a secessionist republic but it will be defeated brutally by the federal army with millions of foot troops ready.
Ethiopia is already using this tactic by sending out Amhara settlers in practically all major cities in Ethiopia.

Look up the demographics of cities in the SNNP, Gumuz and Gambella region, they are all like +25% Amhara. The whole country is culturally getting Amharicized.
Not sure of why there is so much fear mongering on the Amhara, they've lost their power a long time ago, there's a trigray dictatorship in place that actually marginalises the Amhara.
The Amhara moved to these regions back during the Derg days when they had actual power and stature.
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As for a union, that would be detrimental for Somalis, but such a nation might be harder to control simply because of the vast space, the coasts and the logistics need to be dealt with, and if the centre of power is around the highlands and the lowlanders are rebellious then they will experience angst - much worse- than what they have now.

But normally Somalis would never be a player because of their internal division.
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Estarix wrote:As for a union, that would be detrimental for Somalis, but such a nation might be harder to control simply because of the vast space, the coasts and the logistics need to be dealt with, and if the centre of power is around the highlands and the lowlanders are rebellious then they will experience angst - much worse- than what they have now.

But normally Somalis would never be a player because of their internal division.
An EU-like union between Ethiopia, Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia and Djibouti is inevitable to counteract the system the Swahili countries are setting up and the economic benefits they will get from it.

The whole world is going in the direction of free movement of goods, capital, services, and people. For instance, South America will soon set up a system like that. For the Horn it might take awhile, but it is inevitable in order to stay competitive in the global market.
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