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@LiquidHYDROGEN

Are you talking about the water shortage problem in Somaliland or in Somalia?

If you are talking about water harvesting problem in Somalia then you can post this thread in Somalia section.

However, if you are talking about Somaliland then I can help you shed the light in the real problem. Have you ever heard about the project done by the British in Beer town? There were many attempts to harvest the dry river water in Somaliland. Even for the last few years many people offer their help but the main obstacle were the same people who will benefit from the project. A guy went to his tuulo to dig a well for the nomads. Some of the inhabitants of that tuulo rejected his project because they own Berkads which they sell the water stored on the drought season and if he construct a well neighbor villages nomads will come and get free water and they will loss their business.

Alhamdulillah the current government is doing a good job to overcome water problem. Giant reservoirs are going to be build to collect water and around 13 wells are going to be digged to extract water from. The project capacity is more than 1 Million gallons per day. The project was supposed to start couple of years ago but because of inter-Xafaadaha Hargeysa politics it was delay until everyone agree. The project is now under way.
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Djiboutian wrote:@LiquidHYDROGEN

Are you talking about the water shortage problem in Somaliland or in Somalia?

If you are talking about water harvesting problem in Somalia then you can post this thread in Somalia section.

However, if you are talking about Somaliland then I can help you shed the light in the real problem. Have you ever heard about the project done by the British in Beer town? There were many attempts to harvest the dry river water in Somaliland. Even for the last few years many people offer their help but the main obstacle were the same people who will benefit from the project. A guy went to his tuulo to dig a well for the nomads. Some of the inhabitants of that tuulo rejected his project because they own Berkads which they sell the water stored on the drought season and if he construct a well neighbor villages nomads will come and get free water and they will loss their business.

Alhamdulillah the current government is doing a good job to overcome water problem. Giant reservoirs are going to be build to collect water and around 13 wells are going to be digged to extract water from. The project capacity is more than 1 Million gallons per day. The project was supposed to start couple of years ago but because of inter-Xafaadaha Hargeysa politics it was delay until everyone agree. The project is now under way.
When it comes to problems of water shortage, it does not really matter "where" we are talking about; all somali inhabited territories face the same problems, the same challenges and the same financial limits. Also, they are all face the same obstacles when it comes overcoming incumbent entrepreneurial based solutions (e.g. reservoirs/wells). The picture is the same everywhere except in areas where there is a river (even here, the magnitude of the problem is almost the same as the arid/semi arid areas).

You have failed to understand LH’s point. It is about the usage of resources, priorities and goal setting. Our people irrespective of where they are subjected to paltry politics, phoney discourse and issues that do not address key issues that we face. Limited resources are consumed by the drivel they are fed; dawlad (maintaining the fame appetite of politicians costs), feeding the superficial lifestyles of our people too costs fortunes. We have become a nation of the superficial; kaaleya I arka. We care more about recognition, the dress we wear, babble talk and issues that would not progress us.

With limited resources we cannot feed the hunger of fame.

Investments in access to water and agriculture should be the priority. Unfortunately, right now through out Somalia our politicians and in the extension everyone prefer to feed on imported food, drink bottled war and spend a large chunk of the budget on a “kaaleya I arka” inanity.

There are technologies out there which can green our territories. These cost a lot of money but not really more than what is spent on nacnac Inc. With access to water a lot of problems could disappear; for starters, we could grow our food, we could also have less resource based tribal conflicts, and improve the health of our people.

As regards the projects you have mentioned; yes, there are many projects all over somali inhabited territories; but these are limited in scope and scale. In addition, corruption and the urge to loot is making them difficult to carried out or maintain them. We need a marshall plan.

Imagine if we could spend alot of talk, a big percentage of our limited resources and more importanly our minds on improving lives instead of kaaleya i arka Inc? il.e the feel good prozac that we feed each other.
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I did not read all of the comments, but just would like to ask why are you ignoring the corruption that prevails nearly every office and house in Somali territories?

IMO, nothing can be done until corruption is brought under control. All of the ideas people presented are great ideas, but when they come down to implementation, every body - who can get his (or her) hands on the pie - will not let that opportunity go to "waste".

May be cutting hands as punishment, if fully implemented, can deter Somalis from not stealing / looting of what is not theirs. That is a solution that I would propose in the near term.
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Hodan94 wrote:
EvolSyawla wrote:
X.Playa wrote:It only takes few caterpillar diggers. But instead of damming waters we rather pray salaat al rain lool do people pray for rain in the congo or the Amazon? Its all about climate and geography and known your climate is enough, we suffer draught yearly and when it rains its torrential rain and flash floods.
Lol hey, say what you like. Either Allah heard those prayers or this is a huge coincidence. Its raining again right now.
Praying for rain is important as well as making the initiative to building dams. At least tye reer miyi are one step abead of the city population by makung barkads.
xplaya---any news on them budda gods in nepal are they ten feet under? Condolences to you my brother


Lol Xplaya wa nin raganimo badan. I love reading his historical narratives. Just pity he doesn't believe in Allah. Hopefully, he'll find guidance and come back into fold
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Watched this big tree on TV, in Sudan they use it to gather rain water in it shallow inside.

If the environment is suitable in Hargiesa, every household should plant one.

If there is no space, they should make a place where every neighborhood

at least have dozens of these trees.

It will capture the rain to be used later in the dry season and reduce the flooding in Hargisa every year. :up:
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you guys are mixing too different issues. WATER SHORTAGE and DROUGHT. if you see somaliland people complaining about 'abaar' it does not usually mean they have no water to drink but they have no pasture for their animals thats called abaar. the water shortage is minor problem that effects some parts of hargeisa east saaxil and the border villages who have no wells but berkas. hargeisa water is mostly going to be resolved by the end of this year.now who have any other solution of planting enough grass other than praying for allah ?? our economy depends on livestock if there is no rain no grass and thats big problem. the only thing we could do is two things

1. grassland reserves and 2. charcoal ban . the government implemented the first in aroori bancawl and qoolcday they also did tax relief on cooking and farming equipment last year. if you just buy 1 cooker for one member of your family you are directl contributing the fight against Abaar. we don't need too much complaining and less contribution. just buy a cooker for your family if you care about our country environment. together we can decrease all our problems.
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Of course water shortage and drought are linked :mindblown:

If you don't have enough water infrastructure such as reservoirs, underground pipes to carry the water as well water treatment plants to recycle waste water you will not have anything to use to irrigate and grow the vegetables, fruit and green pastures/hay for lifestock.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Of course water shortage and drought are linked :mindblown:

If you don't have enough water infrastructure such as reservoirs, underground pipes to carry the water as well water treatment plants to recycle waste water you will not have anything to use to irrigate and grow the vegetables, fruit and green pastures/hay for lifestock.
if that works the sahara would not be sahara and the saudis could have more cattle and adhi than us. Water shortage is not big problem we can solved the water shortage withing the next couple of years by digging more wells. but rain shortage is the biggest problem we are dealing right now. most somalilanders are nomadic they are not farmers and even most of our soil is not good at farming. every tuulo needs rain water for animal grassing.
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In summary, in the near-term, the solution is digging more wells and water holes (berkedo), bring in more cooking equipment to offset the need for charcoal, and implement a charcoal ban in all of Somali territories.

In the long-term, build "enough water infrastructure such as reservoirs, underground pipes to carry the water as well water treatment plants to recycle waste water," and plant trees that can catch rain.

Ok great ideas. How about implementing those ideas then? I think people forget these ideas have been around for a long-time, but implementing them has always been the problem. Shouldn't be time people question what is preventing these ideas from being implemented?
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