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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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EvolSyawla wrote:Sexual game? Cuckold because they want the poor hot guy?

Lolll Good lord, where did you read this nonsense.
For short-term mating yes, because the biological imperative of women is to seek out the best possible genes for her offspring. That's why they can lose control and cheat with an attractive masculine man if put in a sticky situation, even if they 'love' their not so aesthetically pleasing or not so masculine husbands. For a womens hypergamous appetite to be sated, a man would have to be both physically attractive, have a dominant personality and have money. But since it's rare to find a man with all this and get him to commit on top of that many women (especially those not bound by religious and cultural constraints) follow the dual-sexual strategy of beta-bucks (marry the ok looking miskeen guy with the lacag) and alpha-f**** (have sex wit the hot badboy) lol. Many women don't act on this impulse, but it's takes a strong moral compass for them not to. It's because of this nature of women that all past cultures placed restrictions on the sexual freedom of women, and societies who loosen or do away with these limits face the consequences as they are now in the West. In the West now studies have proven that women are cheating at a higher rate than men, that they initiate divorce in over 70% of cases, and that the known cuckold rate is over 10%, and thats just the known rate. Over 10% of men, probably closer to like 20% in actuality, are raising kids that aren't their own, acuudubillah.

Alhamdulillah Somalis are Muslim and still have some sort of a conservative culture, though this doesn't mean we're immune obviously. And of course men with options cheat too, but I was just expounding on the little known causes for female infidelity here.
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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EvolSyawla wrote:See, above post makes more sense. Sadly, I agree.

But the real test of love is when what is offered, no longer is. That's when most girlfriends/wives leave.

I wouldn't marry a man who would inspire dependancy on what he offers, because that isn't love.

Money yes, that is fleeting but what is there to love about a person if not how they treat us and make or inspire us to feel?

Malachite wrote:Personally? A less oppotunistic, trick.....A women whose faithful and loyal enough to put my own feelings above hers
Sounds like a mother
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EvolSyawla wrote:See, above post makes more sense. Sadly, I agree.

But the real test of love is when what is offered, no longer is. That's when most girlfriends/wives leave.

I wouldn't marry a man who would inspire dependancy on what he offers, because that isn't love.
YES....You nailed it

They are programmed to move on quickly, its a survival thing

you die hunting or in a war, she has to be able to compartmentalize and move on to the next provider/conqueror
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Men exhale love when they orgasm.

They then proceed to turn their back and snore.

Ain't it funny how romantic a man can be before coitus.
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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BlackVelvet wrote:
Malachite wrote:i think its more so that the women are more in-love with what guys can give them, as opposed to the guy himself.

And what are guys in-love with?
Women love opportunistically, while men love sacrificially. That's the fundamental difference.
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Malachite wrote:
EvolSyawla wrote:See, above post makes more sense. Sadly, I agree.

But the real test of love is when what is offered, no longer is. That's when most girlfriends/wives leave.

I wouldn't marry a man who would inspire dependancy on what he offers, because that isn't love.
YES....You nailed it

They are programmed to move on quickly, its a survival thing

you die hunting or in a war, she has to be able to compartmentalize and move on to the next provider/conqueror


:mindblown:


What century are we living in? There are plenty of women who earn more than men. Furthermore for those who don't the government provides handsomely so why are we stuck with this outdated thinking of the weak female on the hunt for a provider/conqueror (did you really just say conqueror)
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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Jugjugwacwac wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:
Malachite wrote:i think its more so that the women are more in-love with what guys can give them, as opposed to the guy himself.

And what are guys in-love with?
Women love opportunistically, while men love sacrificially. That's the fundamental difference.

Really?


So all a woman does is take and all a man does is give?
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BlackVelvet wrote:
Malachite wrote:i think its more so that the women are more in-love with what guys can give them, as opposed to the guy himself.

And what are guys in-love with?
Not that different from what girls fall in love with
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Blackvelvet, what I mean by women love opportunistically is that women love the status, the money, the choices and the carnal pleasures a man can provide for her, but not the man himself. It's more selfish in nature than the love men have for women. For example, if a married man lost his job and had his home foreclosed, and then due to the stress started developing erectile dysfunction....how many wives do u think would stay with a broke ass nigga that cant even get it up lol? And answer honestly here. Not many I think.

But lets reverse the scenario, and lets say the wife got a serious illness and wasn't able to cook or clean anymore, and could rarely have sex. How many of their husbands do you think would leave? Honest answer here.
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^ exactly.....

The thing is women mentally only see value.....So the important thing is to becomea high value spouse........If you are the man she'd like to have an affair with then you never have to worry about her cheating. But the minute you think you've made it and can become complacent and relax is the minute she'll start to wonder if she settled or can do better.....My auncle used to say

"women will take whatever they can from you so never give them anything which you want back later" wise man
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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Yes there are opportunist gold digging ladies. That's terrible

There are also terrible man who will use women has well . Like they view them as objects. Once their looks "decline" they will divorce them a find a 20 year old women. Then are are those who view women has baby factories.

There are terrible people every where and will marry people for terrible reasons.

Everyone just marry your best friend and someone your compatible with . End of
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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What's more interesting is the value you associate with each gender. The man is the ATM, sex toy and the woman is the maid, sex toy


Have you considered that the problem here is not necessarily what happens when the individual can no longer be what you married them for but that you married them to be an ATM/maid sex toy in the first place?


I have a problem with generalisations and stereotypes because unless you have data to back it up it's mostly hot air. The only question we can really answer, and even then probably not completely honestly even to ourselves, is why would you marry? What would it take and what do you want? More interestingly why do you think someone would marry you?


The issue here is not that women will use you for your money and then dump you for a don juan but that you think that's what will/would happen. Your perception is your reality
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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BlackVelvet wrote:




The issue here is not that women will use you for your money and then dump you for a don juan but that you think that's what will/would happen. Your perception is your reality
Why are you personalizing this? How do you know what category of men I fall under? Alhamdulillah I have many many options with women. I'm interested in this stuff because I love theory and understanding society not because I'm some loser whose worried i'll get cheated on lol.

Edit: I just realized you might have been using the pronoun 'you' in the general sense, but not sure.
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lol Now we gonna ask for data


Yo I'm out.....I have a lab session


Ladies, keep it tight :shaq:
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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Yes I meant you in the general sense of people who talk like this


But making it personal, I know a lot of women who supported their husbands, women who invested in their men's businesses, women who bought houses and put the husband's name on the deed....in some of these cases the man used the woman's own money to buy another woman a house


Since data is not readily available. You have to admit, we take what we see around us and our own biases, formulate our views and extrapolate to the population


Women aren't as a group evil conniving bishes and men aren't selfish sex addicted users. People who marry others for selfish reasons or allow others to marry them for selfish reasons will always ka xaa xaabi then blame gender, or something equally trivial, after the fact
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