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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Cherine wrote:Eedo Zubeir kalimat al haqq ku hadal ama iska aamus. Nin diinta garanayya baad tahay.
fiqi tolki Kama jano tago,as the saying goes.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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BlackVelvet wrote:Zubeir if the issue was about resources, how do you reconcile taking on Yemenis and turning away Somalis?


Please take the L and leave it at that, people will eventually forget/ get bored and move on
The resources that are presently there can only provide for so much IDP's, there are most likely more ships packed with refugees on their way and the situation only looks to be worsening.

It seems the emotion has clouded the memory of most, previously four ships have docked on Berbera filled with Somalis from both south and north and they are in-land as we speak, had it been merely because they were 'southern-Somalis' and we were uncomprimising-recognition seekers then that wouldn't have been the case.

It seems people would take situations like these and instead of being objective they let their personal feelings get in the way of their intellect.



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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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HorseedS wrote:Seriously idoors need to stop crying and saying PL is taking advantage of this opportunity to score some brownie points. It's not the case y'all fuked up big time take the L and call it a day.
Ina adeer, who cares what they say when the reality on the ground says otherwise? Today alone, Puntland businessmen helped repatriate nearly 600 people to their regions of origin. Several buses even left Bosaso for Hargeisa. So while these hate on us and try to justify the unjustifiable, we will continue to help those in need, including ZubeirAwal's own cousins. :ugeek:
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Zubeir,

As someone who lost a distant relative in the Jazeera massacre I find it offensive for you to even bring that up to justify the mistreatment of innocent refugees fleeing Yemen. Faqash =/= Reer Koonfuur. Xaal qaado sxb.

To everyone else, it is true that Somaliland does host thousands of refugees from the South. I'm on my phone right now but I can dig up the source if you guys want.

My stance on the situation is that it's completely wrong to discriminate between Reer Somaliland and Reer Somalia. If the issue is of limited resources, then why let in Yemeni refugees? Either let them all in or let no one in. Another thing to keep in mind is that beggars can't be choosers. Somaliland can't even take care of its own properly so don't expect the living conditions to be any good unfortunately

To those who are using this fiasco to score cheap fadhi Ku dirir points against Somaliland, shame on you.

- Methylamine
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Buraanbur wrote:
HorseedS wrote:Seriously idoors need to stop crying and saying PL is taking advantage of this opportunity to score some brownie points. It's not the case y'all fuked up big time take the L and call it a day.
Ina adeer, who cares what they say when the reality on the ground says otherwise? Today alone, Puntland businessmen helped repatriate nearly 600 people to their regions of origin. Several buses even left Bosaso for Hargeisa. So while these hate on us and try to justify the unjustifiable, we will continue to help those in need, including ZubeirAwal's own cousins. :ugeek:
Waa sidaas :up:
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Cherine wrote:Zubeir,
There was no need for "berigii sidaas iyo sidaas baad inoo gasheen". What has hoyada with 9 kids got to with those Isaaq men who were killed?
I'd be lying if I said I raised an eyebrow after you mentioned my mother in a rather distasteful remark about her, that being said the past should not be forgotten, I do not wish to discuss things in a passive way, displaying myself as a victim to the people, my only intent when I created this thread was to blow away the emotional mist people have cast over this situation, i.e:

"ALLAH BA'AY REER SOMALILAND DADKA SOMALIDA BEY DHIBEEN SOMALIDEED WEEYE"

I think I made my point.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Methylamine wrote:Zubeir,

As someone who lost a distant relative in the Jazeera massacre I find it offensive for you to even bring that up to justify the mistreatment of innocent refugees fleeing Yemen. Faqash =/= Reer Koonfuur. Xaal qaado sxb.

To everyone else, it is true that Somaliland does host thousands of refugees from the South. I'm on my phone right now but I can dig up the source if you guys want.

My stance on the situation is that it's completely wrong to discriminate between Reer Somaliland and Reer Somalia. If the issue is of limited resources, then why let in Yemeni refugees? Either let them all in or let no one in. Another thing to keep in mind is that beggars can't be choosers. Somaliland can't even take care of its own properly so don't expect the living conditions to be any good unfortunately

To those who are using this fiasco to score cheap fadhi Ku dirir points against Somaliland, shame on you.

- Methylamine
I ask you to go through the posts I authored on this thread and find anything where I justify the mistreatment of these refugees by using the Jazeera massacre, I'll paraphrase my point even clearly here, "The wailing naago have to stop acting as if there is some sort of clannist agenda that is occurring in Somaliland like that of the Jazeera massacre, we have thousands of IDP's in Somaliland who live in peace everyday we have no xenophobic intentions to harm them", that was my point, and not " Because the Jazeera massacre happened to us all of this is absolutely fine."
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Zubeir eedo, there are people would go to the ends of the gates of hell to defend their governments/qabiil/reero, don't become one of those people


I would not be surprised with there being IDP/refugees in SLand however this particular situation SLand messed up. You neither have to defend it nor apologise for it or excuse it but don't put your morals second to anything


For future reference, you really don't want to go down that route


Habeen wanaagsan :rose:
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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ZubeirAwal wrote:
Cherine wrote:Zubeir,
There was no need for "berigii sidaas iyo sidaas baad inoo gasheen". What has hoyada with 9 kids got to with those Isaaq men who were killed?
I'd be lying if I said I raised an eyebrow after you mentioned my mother in a rather distasteful remark about her, that being said the past should not be forgotten, I do not wish to discuss things in a passive way, displaying myself as a victim to the people, my only intent when I created this thread was to blow away the emotional mist people have cast over this situation, i.e:

"ALLAH BA'AY REER SOMALILAND DADKA SOMALIDA BEY DHIBEEN SOMALIDEED WEEYE"

I think I made my point.

Whaa? :notsure:
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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ZubeirAwal wrote:
Methylamine wrote:Zubeir,

As someone who lost a distant relative in the Jazeera massacre I find it offensive for you to even bring that up to justify the mistreatment of innocent refugees fleeing Yemen. Faqash =/= Reer Koonfuur. Xaal qaado sxb.

To everyone else, it is true that Somaliland does host thousands of refugees from the South. I'm on my phone right now but I can dig up the source if you guys want.

My stance on the situation is that it's completely wrong to discriminate between Reer Somaliland and Reer Somalia. If the issue is of limited resources, then why let in Yemeni refugees? Either let them all in or let no one in. Another thing to keep in mind is that beggars can't be choosers. Somaliland can't even take care of its own properly so don't expect the living conditions to be any good unfortunately

To those who are using this fiasco to score cheap fadhi Ku dirir points against Somaliland, shame on you.

- Methylamine
I ask you to go through the posts I authored on this thread and find anything where I justify the mistreatment of these refugees by using the Jazeera massacre, I'll paraphrase my point even clearly here, "The wailing naago have to stop acting as if there is some sort of clannist agenda that is occurring in Somaliland like that of the Jazeera massacre, we have thousands of IDP's in Somaliland who live in peace everyday we have no xenophobic intentions to harm them", that was my point, and not " Because the Jazeera massacre happened to us all of this is absolutely fine."
My mistake sxb, I skimmed through that part and thought you were bringing it up to say that Southerners have mistreated Isaaqs in the past.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Zubeir, still waiting...... :smugruss:
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Quit sipping on that haterade suufi boy, it doesn't suit you, go talk about your hair or some shit.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Keep them on the livestock ship. I personally host about 500 Wanlawein on my land in Mohamed Moge since 2011. They don't want to go. The UN won't relocate them and to be frank I'm not making penny from UN lease. So I feel others should not be in the same situation. I have now decided to abandon that land until UN takes them to Dadaab.

The locals also hate me for allowing the UN to use my land thinking I'm making money but they unable to develop theirs because no one wants to live near Wanlawein trouble makets. No solution there.

Once Wanlawein roaches land they landed. They have no plans to go back to their niiko jungles.

SL will soon become the northern Dadaab.

Zubeir, Waraabe, Samatar, Hodan----keep up the good work. We want to manage the influxes and preserve our jaandheer identity. No to niiko invasion. Too many Isaac are not only emotional but carry the heart of average xalimo even for the dudes.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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She meant hoyo not hoyada. Grown woman who can't even write proper Somali.
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Re: My opinion regarding the Berbera situation..

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Many threads have been made about this issue, can we let it pass? I don't see why someone should take responsibility of what had happened because he or his parents were from that region.

Guys it seems we can't discuss issue with out inserting other issues or members coming and say my tuulo has done better.


This was unfortunate event, majority of us r even not living in our so called tuulos/homes, we are immigrant in somewhere else so I don't see why we argue over it.

Let us move on! Where is BV? We need other topics.
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