A Worrisome Trend in Somali Youth in Columbus, Ohio

[gegiroor]

gerigoor

Ina Adeer, humans will prefer to congregate areas where their fellow country men reside. Secondly, you will see second Somali generation hosting expensive weddings only to settle in places like Cedar-Riverside. Having said that, people need to adjust to how they raise their kids in the Western diaspora, but as long as our kids attend the malcamad, school, have a roof over their head, three meals a day and decent clothes, that is where our parenting ends, other influences, such as school friends, TV and father Social Media become their mentors. We always find out very late when they are in trouble, even then, if a family has the means to ship them out, we will export them to the institution of Dhaqan Cellis as if it could correct the flaws of their characters. As someone mentioned above, everyone should educate their relatives about this issue and the need to invest and sacrifice for the future of their children by abandoning cheap housing in the ghetto and actively be involved in the lives of their children.

We are fighting over which tribe should manage our mosques that most donated to build wonderful Islamic Centres, do you think there will have the mindset of building an honest "community" that speaks, lobbies, advocates for Somali issues?

Even if these new arrivals are settled far away from the ghetto areas, most will seek the company of their relatives and move to the ghetto areas. I see it as a cultural shortcoming from our side than a procedural deficit by the refugee resettlement program.

Machiavelli2,

I agree with all of the points that you have raised. My issue with the refugee resettlement agencies stems from the fact that they only place Somalis in inner cities. There are other refugees from Nepal and Iraq they brought into the US, and they never resettle them in these failing neighborhoods. So, I questioned myself why Somalis only? I did a little bit of more digging and found out the other groups have established community leaders on their behalf and therefore can put the refugee resettlement agencies on the spot; however, Somalis don't have it. Basically, Somalis are voiceless.

I understand in our culture, once the parents provide food, shelter, clothing, and send the kids to school, to them that is done. It is true that, as you put it, "school friends, TV and father Social Media become their mentors." One thing we should also look at is the influences of the environment where these children are being raised. In inner cities, any male who is between 15 - 18 is a prey to drug dealers. This is where the recruiting takes place. They provide more money available to them, so the underage kids can sell the drugs. If we can at least influence their initial settlement in these failing communities, we may able to reduce the number of young males who are being recruited into the gangs.

If you remember when the banks shut down Somali Money Remittance (Hawala) accounts in the US, the community effort was huge. We did it because it is a lifeline for Somalis backhome. I think we can do the same in this situation. We need a community-wide effort to put pressure on the US Refugee Resettlement agencies to ensure they stop placing only Somalis in inner cities. It is a double-standard that they only place the Somalis in these failing neighborhoods. They have been doing this since the beginning of 1990s. My issue with the refugee resettlement agencies is, why do you place only Somalis in the ghettos?

If we, at minimum, make enough noises, we can at least get them to stop the discriminatory policies that they're only applying to Somalis. We can also at least reduce the number of young males growing up in an environment where the only thing that is available is drugs.

Thanks!

Thank you Kaafiye and Jalaaludiin for your comments.

@Basra, when are you gonna grow up and at least understand the topic Udun on welfare? Nope, you're delusional.

@PrInce, our effort here should be prevention. There was a study conducted by the DHUD during the Clinton administration, and they have concluded that the best option for minorities communities to get out of failing neighborhoods is to get them out of these inner cities neighborhoods where the only thing available is drugs. This is how Section-8 program was instituted. On this situation, what you have is refugee resettlement agencies placing one particular refugee group - Somalis - in these neighborhoods that the US Government study recommended that the minority communities should move out of those same neighborhoods. It is really very shocking.

Additionally, in this Westwood Apartments in Columbus, Ohio, the Somalis who settled there are new refugees who came to the US within the last 5 years. The trend of young males joining the gangs have already started, and we already have victims from this violence and some of the young males in the prison system.

[gegiroor]

A sad news break coming out of Minnesota is Sangub the poet and playwright's son was gunned down in Cedar-Riverside by other young Somalis. Illaah SWT ha u naxxariisto, ehelkiisana Samir iyo Iimaan ha siiyo. Police claim it is not a random homocide. The whole neighbourhood are Somalis and yet, we are murdering one another. Where are all these Federal and State funded Community organisations? If these families became dysfunctional, there is little could be done.

AHUN the deceased.

[bluelovelady]

The apartment gets money from the county. Therefore you should report the apartment office to Franklin County Housing so they can investigate.

[gegiroor]

The apartment gets money from the county. Therefore you should report the apartment office to Franklin County Housing so they can investigate.

Ok first thanks for the advice sister bluelovelady, and you bet I will act upon this. However, what about the larger issue: The Refugee resettlement agencies who are dumping new Somali refugees in these failing neighborhoods. The action on particular apartment is not going to resolve the larger issue. Even if Franklin County intervenes, that apartment complex is still in the same neighborhoods - where you have an abundant drugs. And it is the bad environment that is influencing these young males.

[gegiroor]

The story is no different here in the UK. In terms of Somali's in prison. After white people Somalis make up the largest ethnic minority (and the largest Muslim community) in prisons.

Despite the million Somali organisations in the UK maybe few are involved with prisons and its most likely some are only by name.

Imagine a man who was wrongly convicted of a crime and he doesn't have a family in the UK. He doesn't speak English. He finished his prison sentence but is still inside eight months later. Then he hears about a Somali organisation and calls them from prison. He explain his situation and after listening at the other end his told...sxb anaku dadka xaafadan dagan uun baanu caawina (click and his got the dialing tone).

I attended couple of those community meetings about crimes in the communities and what to do about it. More often there is great attendance but what an opportunity to get picture with the local MP. Free food? Wale I know a dozen guys who will be interested in this very import issue

Four hours of talk by different speakers. PowerPoint presentations. The seriousness of the issue at hand and the promises made to stay on top of this and coordinate with other organisations involved in similar work is heart warming. But only while you can still taste that sweet chicken scallop and able to burp from all that fizzy drink.

Bloody Somalis. One needs the patience of a zen Buddhist to work with them.
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Sorry for the rant.

Stop talking shite mate.

Oops, somebody got an axe on Jalaaludiin


@Jalaaludiin bro, what have you done wrong here?



Thanks for conveying the same issue in UK. We all watched the Raageh Omar documentary, so it is the same issue in UK, US, and Canada.

[jalaaludin5]

The story is no different here in the UK. In terms of Somali's in prison. After white people Somalis make up the largest ethnic minority (and the largest Muslim community) in prisons.

Despite the million Somali organisations in the UK maybe few are involved with prisons and its most likely some are only by name.

Imagine a man who was wrongly convicted of a crime and he doesn't have a family in the UK. He doesn't speak English. He finished his prison sentence but is still inside eight months later. Then he hears about a Somali organisation and calls them from prison. He explain his situation and after listening at the other end his told...sxb anaku dadka xaafadan dagan uun baanu caawina (click and his got the dialing tone).

I attended couple of those community meetings about crimes in the communities and what to do about it. More often there is great attendance but what an opportunity to get picture with the local MP. Free food? Wale I know a dozen guys who will be interested in this very import issue

Four hours of talk by different speakers. PowerPoint presentations. The seriousness of the issue at hand and the promises made to stay on top of this and coordinate with other organisations involved in similar work is heart warming. But only while you can still taste that sweet chicken scallop and able to burp from all that fizzy drink.

Bloody Somalis. One needs the patience of a zen Buddhist to work with them.
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Sorry for the rant.

Stop talking shite mate.

Oops, somebody got an axe on Jalaaludiin


@Jalaaludiin bro, what have you done wrong here?



Thanks for conveying the same issue in UK. We all watched the Raageh Omar documentary, so it is the same issue in UK, US, and Canada.

I have no problem been corrected if am wrong. So where do Somalis come into to the table of prison statistics?

I wonder if she thinks black are the majority

[FAH1223]

I'd write to the congressional representative

The State Department has a lot of red tape to jump over unfortunately.

[gegiroor]

Stop talking shite mate.

Oops, somebody got an axe on Jalaaludiin


@Jalaaludiin bro, what have you done wrong here?



Thanks for conveying the same issue in UK. We all watched the Raageh Omar documentary, so it is the same issue in UK, US, and Canada.

I have no problem been corrected if am wrong. So where do Somalis come into to the table of prison statistics?

I wonder if she thinks black are the majority

There were no statistics that the lady presented, and I am aware of the situation in UK. Bottom line, your statement stands and it is well-known many young Somalis populate in the UK prison systems. Raageh Omaar documentary shed light into the plight of the young Somali males there, and the gangsta culture that has sadly taken root among the young Somalis in UK.

[gegiroor]

I'd write to the congressional representative

The State Department has a lot of red tape to jump over unfortunately.

Thanks FAH. I've already started the process on my end. I am actually in the process of reaching out to the 2 senators in my state and also my district congresswoman. However, we need a collective effort participating it, as that will give it to more weight and visibility.

I also think we still need to reach out to the State Department that deals with the refugee resettlement program. Enough noises will have an impact.

[eliteSomali]

Wajihood is reincarnating what capital park was like a decade or so ago. Somalis are violent by nature and usually for no good reason. Still tho, OH is better than MN and Canada.

[HorseedS]

I used to hear about that apartments when I used to live in Columbus. Never been to it but heard stories. The worst part I've lived in Columbus was the south side damn was the place bad. The cops didn't even want noting to do with the place and if you go to them they'd tell you why did you move here.

[Cherine]

I have no problem been corrected if am wrong. So where do Somalis come into to the table of prison statistics?

I wonder if she thinks black are the majority

There were no statistics that the lady presented, and I am aware of the situation in UK. Bottom line, your statement stands and it is well-known many young Somalis populate in the UK prison systems. Raageh Omaar documentary shed light into the plight of the young Somali males there, and the gangsta culture that has sadly taken root among the young Somalis in UK.

Did Jalaludiin present statistics? Yet you gulped down what he said as if it's waxyi. Even the Ministry of Justice has no stats on how many Somalis there are https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... a.doc.html.

No one is denying there is a problem but the truth is Somalis do not even inhabit 95% of the U.K. They only live in a handful of cities. There are way more Pakistanis and Carribeans in prisons than Somalis. We are only about 200,000- 350,000 strong community compared to the MILLIONS of Asians & Carribeans that live in the U.K so no way we are second to whites when it comes to populating prisons.

[jalaaludin5]

Apart from one and two prison in the Midlands Somalis Outnumber Asians in most HMPs and YOIs. Asian is also a broader term used for Bangladesh/India/Pakistan. So if you look at the number of Pakistanis/ Bangladashi or Indians Compare to Somalis then its no brainer. The same with Caribbeans. Bbeacause the Caribbean is not A Country.

So which ever country you pick, from Jamaica to Trinidad or other - small Islands the answer is the same.
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But I am still willing to be corrected if am wrong but so far am pretty confident that Somalis are the largest groups.

[gegiroor]

Cherine,

The link that you showed still does not provide any data about Somalis in UK prisons, however, if you think there are more Caribbean and Pakistanis in UK prisons than Somalis, do you have any data to prove it? Nevermind, you're right and Jalaaludiin is right. How about that?

Anyhow, I think we're getting lost in the semantics here. It does not matter to us which ethnic group that has more people in the UK prisons, since we still have more Somalis in these horrible places. I think our focus should be in discussing how we can prevent it or at least reduce it. What do you think?

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Wedgewood is full of Bantu who do drugs, drink, steal, gangsta wannabee's, tell your family to move out of that neighborhood ASAP.

The other day these I went by Capital Park, and 30 Somali drunk and high on weed boys were fighting, some from the west side and some north, with knives, and bats, I called the Police on them, before someone was killed. Few of the Gang leaders who molest ppl in the neighborhood were arrested.