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Kaafiye wrote:If Somalia received proper funding from the West, and if our Somali leaders weren't so wretched and corrupt, we could easily fund 100,000 professional Somali soldiers, as well as receive tanks, airplanes, helicopters, ships, machine-guns, artillery, and jeeps. There are dozens of old Navy ships which NATO puts out of commission every single year. Somalia could easily receive these old Navy ships, refurbish them, and use them for our Navy.

All it takes is a little dedication from Hassan Sheikh to make this happen, but this idiot would rather concern himself with things of no importance...rather than using his position to empower his country.

There are thousands of Somali boys who graduate from university every single year, with absolutely no job prospects due to the terrible state of Somalia's economy. If they were given positions in the military, they could easily use their education to become Officers in the Somali military. And we could attract high-quality recruits to the armed forces. If each of them were making 1500 dollars per month indefinitely, then they could be even more motivated to actually pacify our country. Al Shabaab could be destroyed within a few months. We could hire Somali intelligence officers, undercover agents, police officers, special-forces commandos, and detectives. We could send these Somali boys to the United States where they could be trained by the FBI on how to conduct police investigations. We could easily request the US Marine Corps on helping us create a Somali Special Forces Unit.

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All this does is require a leader with some dedication and competence. This current Somali President has none of that, and that's why we're running around in circles while we have 20,000 Bantu soldiers occupying our country and exploiting our people. It's disgusting. It's a travesty and our noble Somali forefathers would be turning in their graves if they knew what became of our country.

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Habar fadhidaa lagdan la fudud. What if the West does't want fund somali army ? Xaggee u dhaqaaqaysaa ? I don't see how anyone can blame somali leaders about military issues. Untill independent money source such as petroleum or other natural resources are found in Somalia, we will be at the mercy of West.
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Cadaanguy that is what he would like. lool

Walaahi I don't know why the Somali gov't isn't taking advantage of the world attention to mobilise our people especially the youth to destroy the insurgency and Hire all these Somali youths, it would empower Somalia and we would have the drive and a reason to fight them. all these gov't would give us money, training & equipment, Tanks, Ships, Airplanes, weapons. etc.

GI so who funds the gov't and Amisom now? lol
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GIJaamac wrote: Habar fadhidaa lagdan la fudud. What if the West does't want fund somali army ? Xaggee u dhaqaaqaysaa ? I don't see how anyone can blame somali leaders about military issues. Untill independent money source such as petroleum or other natural resources are found in Somalia, we will be at the mercy of West.
If the West could fund 20,000 foreign AMISOM troops in Somalia, then they could just as well fund 50,000 Somali troops in Somalia. The West has deep pockets when it comes to issues of national security, and the Americans won't hesitate to pay up if they feel like it's in their national interests to defeat Al-Shabaab (which they do).
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What if they simply don't want to fund somali army ? No amount of begging will change their minds. Do you really think SFG officials are dumber than you who's posting in snet ? West knows somalis are more than capable securing their country if they get necessary military equipments. West's reason for not funding somali army is a political decision rather than economical.
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GIJaamac wrote:What if they simply don't want to fund somali army ? No amount of begging will change their minds. Do you really think SFG officials are dumber than you who's posting in snet ? West knows somalis are more than capable securing their country if they get necessary military equipments. West's reason for not funding somali army is a political decision rather than economical.
We're talking about the same generation of Somali men who are literally responsible for the collapse of the Somali Republic, the exodus of hundreds of thousands of Somali refugees, the starvation of hundreds of thousands of more Somalis, and the dysfunction that exists in Somali society.

So no, I don't expect much from "the SFG". Nobody does. These men are degenerates and we can both agree on that.
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First give a chance then judge. You can't judge current SFG like you judge other countries govts.
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GIJaamac wrote:First give a chance then judge. You can't judge current SFG like you judge other countries govts.
I'm judging the SFG according to the standards set by other African governments (which is pretty low as it is). The first job of a government is to secure their own territory, yet the SFG can't even do that. Somaliland on the other hand, has far less funding and less resources, yet they can effectively control their own borders, along with Puntland as well.

And yet you continue to make excuses for this pathetic excuse of a government in Mogadishu.
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Kaafiye wrote:
GIJaamac wrote:First give a chance then judge. You can't judge current SFG like you judge other countries govts.
I'm judging the SFG according to the standards set by other African governments (which is pretty low as it is). The first job of a government is to secure their own territory, yet the SFG can't even do that.Somaliland on the other hand, has far less funding and less resources, yet they can effectively control their own borders, along with Puntland as well.

And yet you continue to make excuses for this pathetic excuse of a government in Mogadishu.
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Haven't you heard about al-shabaab in south-central Somalia ?
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GIJaamac wrote:
Kaafiye wrote:
GIJaamac wrote:First give a chance then judge. You can't judge current SFG like you judge other countries govts.
I'm judging the SFG according to the standards set by other African governments (which is pretty low as it is). The first job of a government is to secure their own territory, yet the SFG can't even do that.Somaliland on the other hand, has far less funding and less resources, yet they can effectively control their own borders, along with Puntland as well.

And yet you continue to make excuses for this pathetic excuse of a government in Mogadishu.
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Haven't you heard about al-shabaab in south-central Somalia ?
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Are you kidding me? That's exactly what I was talking about. There is not ONE province that the SFG controls without the assistance of thousands of Bantu mercenaries. That is absolutely shameful and this President is making no effort to change that.
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Well, if Al-Shabaab were in PL or SL, they could have handled it easily. But then they've both got an established military. Somalia doesn't.

If the tables were turned the other way around, I could see the same thing happening in SL/PL not being able to handle Al-Shabaab.

SFG bends backwards over to the west because they don't want to bite the hand feeding them.

I say let the government collapse and let the governments of north take over.
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PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Cadaanguy that is what he would like. lool

Walaahi I don't know why the Somali gov't isn't taking advantage of the world attention to mobilise our people especially the youth to destroy the insurgency and Hire all these Somali youths, it would empower Somalia and we would have the drive and a reason to fight them. all these gov't would give us money, training & equipment, Tanks, Ships, Airplanes, weapons. etc.

GI so who funds the gov't and Amisom now? lol
Its how we created the SLN army. Each habar contributed 10 thousand and all their armored vihicles/tikniko. Today SlN army can phuk any habar and your folks in nugal godan. If Somalia do the Same now Somalia army can grow stronger to secure all or most of Somalia although i dont beleive any army can eliminate the Spiritually super mighty Alshabaab. How ever Somalia government can use alshabaab themselves indirectly to divert their attacks on ethiopia and kenya. Alshabaab are not eliens they are real Somalis who hate Somali enemies as we do . their only problem is they are more focused on what they call 'murtadiin' Which is a disaster policy because almost all Modern Somalis are moderate a close term to murtad. If alshabaab change their policy into 'kill the gaal before murtad' Its good For Somalia. Who does not like when alshabaab toasts xabashi bakhti Soldiers ? Image. :stylin:
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Which side you're supporting if SLN goes to war with Al-Shabaab and why?
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TheCadaanGuy wrote:Which side you're supporting if SLN goes to war with Al-Shabaab and why?
. SlN for sure unless they have big reason to attack us. In other words i dont like Somaliland to get involved the war on alshabaab. If we do then alshabaab is right target Somaliland governt NOT THE CIVLIANS.
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SL waaxba haa ii faniin, the habro clan Militia your talking about is what motivated us to kick them back and make your generals scream on the BBC Adeer, meesha Alshabab, PL, SSC, ONLG bana soo weraartaay loool..
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Kaafiye wrote:
:mindblown:

Are you kidding me? That's exactly what I was talking about. There is not ONE province that the SFG controls without the assistance of thousands of Bantu mercenaries. That is absolutely shameful and this President is making no effort to change that.
Back to square one again. SNA has arms embargo on them AMISOM has heavy weapons and advanced military equipment, which was given to them by the West. Al-shabaab are afraid of big weapons not machine guns and AK-47. Do you really think SFG officials enjoy being under al-shabaab threat 24/7 ?
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