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we have to understand westerners have different culture. we accept polygamy although i strongly disagree with it, they accept homosexuality

polygamy is bad, but gay is worse
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America xayawaanka xataa waa ka liidataa ileen xayawaanka kan la dhaqdo iyo kan duur joogto ahiba mid lab ahi lab kale uma tago.
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SiennaEarth wrote:Gay marriages are legal here and seen as something acceptable but polygamy is seen as unacceptable and illegal. :mindblown:

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I think u r being a Troll. A tom boy like u have no business judging homosexuals. :stylin:
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GeoSeven wrote:
Malachite wrote:Giving equal marriage rights so that anyone can marry who they want does not equate to an argument for polygamy


It is a fallacy and a failure at critical thought....But im not surprised
Do you want to specify what fallacy this is? She raised a good point and the two are very relevant. It's called hypocrisy!
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SaciidAyanleh wrote:
Cherine wrote:^Wuuba dhacay. One of the boys waa 14. If i'm not mistaken gays want the age of consent which is 16 currently to be lowered.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ldren.html
Child physical/sexual abuse is only done by gays? :lupe:

http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Ho ... 153512.php

I found that in literally 2 seconds. An 11 month old child, too.

Keep your hate to yourself.
Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse

Source: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3
However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote "intergenerational intimacy."

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES
Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.

Men Account for Almost All Sexual Abuse of Children Cases
An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported:"It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males and that female sex offenders only account for a tiny proportion of offences. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!"[1]

Kee MacFarlane, et al., writing in Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment report:"The large majority of sexual perpetrators appear to be males (Herman and Hirschman, 1981; Lindholm and Willey, 1983)."[2]
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I don't get it. They give polygamy bad press, but have no problem with open marriages, which is basically the same thing but worse!
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gegiroor wrote:
Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse
source: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3
However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote "intergenerational intimacy."

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES
Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.

Men Account for Almost All Sexual Abuse of Children Cases
An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported:"It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males and that female sex offenders only account for a tiny proportion of offences. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!"[1]

Kee MacFarlane, et al., writing in Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment report:"The large majority of sexual perpetrators appear to be males (Herman and Hirschman, 1981; Lindholm and Willey, 1983)."[2]
Gegi, adeer, I will have you know that the sexual exploitation of male children is a storied tradition of the Arabs you praise...

Secondly, pederasty is as far removed from homosexuality as it is heterosexuality. If a heterosexual molests an underage girl, are all heterosexuals depraved individuals. Numbers alone do not explain a phenomenon. Anyone with an inquisitive mind can tell you, although it is easy to make the conclusion you and the anti-gay authors of that paper have made, it does not mean the numbers support it.

You make the assumption that male adults who abuse male children are homosexual. The truth of the matter is people who study child sexual abusers believe that to be untrue. Child molesters are categorized into two types, fixated and regressive of which fixated are the most common. Fixated child molesters report no sexual interest in adult partners of either sex. http://www.csom.org/train/etiology/4/4_1.htm
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Malachite wrote:Giving equal marriage rights so that anyone can marry who they want does not equate to an argument for polygamy


It is a fallacy and a failure at critical thought....But im not surprised
How is it fallacy? Do you even know what you're talking about? The argument here is not for polygamy it's to point out western hypocrisy. They believe polygamy is immoral yet they think a man committing sodomy with another man is moral.
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@SaciidAyaanle, explain one thing: How it is possible that homosexuals - who make up 3% of the American people - commit 1/3 of all pedophilia acts? Isn't that what the link that I've posted in my previous link proved? It is too disproportionate a very small number (here 3% only) commits 30% of all pedophilia acts against underage boys.

The above statistics explain that homosexuality is a deviant sexual act that is dangerous to society, particularly innocent little boys. Unfortunately, in the West, the forces who shake and move it are the same ones promoting it. However, telling the truth about this deviant sexual act is something that should be pursued, and its war on innocent little boys should be exposed.
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Gegi, I've already explained that...someone who is sexually attracted to children is neither heterosexual nor homosexual, people with more understanding of the issue than you or I, people who have done expansive research have concluded that. I understand fadhi ku dirir is currency where you're from, but if you don't understand why correlation doesn't equal causation her is a funny cartoon:



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Sacid are you anything besides a shield-maiden for the Sodomites?
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SaciidAyanleh wrote:Gegi, I've already explained that...someone who is sexually attracted to children is neither heterosexual nor homosexual, people with more understanding of the issue than you or I, people who have done expansive research have concluded that. I understand fadhi ku dirir is currency where you're from, but if you don't understand why correlation doesn't equal causation her is a funny cartoon:



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Is that why gay Muslims celebrate & laud Al Hakim or whatever his name was? They even call him and his son the GAY Caliphs, they claim them as one of their own. Never mind the fact that they had harems of boys. Explain that, why does your community love these pederasts so much and see them as gay icons. Why do they overlook Al Hakim's sexual abuse of little boys? So then can you blame us when we come to the conclusion that homosexuality & pederasty goes hand in hand? It did in Ancient Greece & Rome, in some Muslim societies in the past & even now in countries like Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan etc bazrangiya and bacha bazism goes hand in hand with khaniisnimo. They hang out in the same circles and many of them are open about it.

Btw i didn't say all gays have these tendencies or only they abuse children. I am aware that gay men who have children from past relationships with women can be and are indeed loving fathers to their sons. I do not for a sec think 'that man could abuse his son'.
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@Zubeir, I love how you put on this air of sophistication and nobility but in reality you're nothing more than a self-righteous child dressing the part of an adult.
Cherine wrote: Is that why gay Muslims celebrate & laud Al Hakim or whatever his name was? They even call him and his son the GAY Caliphs, they claim them as one of their own. Never mind the fact that they had harems of boys that they used to rape. Explain that, why does your community love these pederasts so much and see them as gay icons.
Well, I'm not obsessed with their sexual orientation (whether celebrating it, as they do, or hiding it, as you do), but I assure you that all Caliphs partook in the rape of slaves, male or female.
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^You didn't answer my question. Why does the gay Muslim community celebrate these men and overlook their rape of boys? Don't you see that as problematic? Can we then be blamed for thinking gays have no issue with pederasty and indeed condone it?
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^I can't answer for the opinions of others, nor do I know if this is true. I understand why that would be problematic. You can be blamed, because you do not know of one Muslim homosexual in person that you can ask if they condone such a terrible act.
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