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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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TheblueNwhite wrote:
Osob101 wrote:Fahad Yassin

He is reer Aw Hassan and since Farah Abdulkadir knew they are langaab within Sheikhal in order to get a seat and ministry made them 0.5 so I have no idea why you guys are even considering them LOL.

Can you believe that Farah wants the governorship. Lol.
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Farah Abdul Kadir is one slick man, Imagine making an entire clan who are by blood and abtirsi Sheikhal and Hawiye, and in a moment makes them 0.5 just so he gets a Ministry and MP position, You should have seen the Ugaas of Reer Aw Hassan in Medina cursing him out :lol:
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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Osob101 wrote:
TheblueNwhite wrote:
Osob101 wrote:Let's be realistic, unless HSM does something extraordinary, it will be very difficult for Xawadle to Win the presidency just for the fact that Gungundhabe will vote against them while Middle Shabelle seats will pretty much be entirely 85% seats go to Abgaal. In this sense it's almost a given Harti Abgaal will get the Presidency since Wacbudhan has the seat in Banaadir.
Xawadle asked for 2/3 of the seats because of the very reason you mentioned.

By the way if an Abgaal gets the governorship, will the capital go to Hiiraan?
I think the Capital location is 50/50 due to the International circle actually favoring Jowhar as its closer to the Capital and NGO'S can get in and out quickly. It also helps that the entire road from Xamar to Jowhar is Government controlled. At the end of the day Xawadle has the support of HSM but what is threatening their plan is the other clans in Hirraan. Gungudhabe is almost certainly going to vote against them and dont even mention Dir and HG :lol:
what a clueless analysis!

Ever heard of the IGAD strategy "establishing buffer zones to cage in hawiye-mogadishu-"

This means all the ethiopian-kenyan bordering regions...wheres jowhar in this?

Bilcaksi jowhar is seen as synonymous to xamar and the central govt!

Unsom offices r found in 5 regional capitals among them is beledweyne not jowhar!

Security wise beledweyne is more safer!

Im against this but hadaad gaalo cuksatid bilcaksi anagee na tuugaan lakiin wadaniyiin waaye reer hiiraan!

I have few hawadle sources-people who work in the UNDP and meet our officials all the time in hotel peace in halane and other places- one of them has told me that the governor has met the prez in addis about the formation of this state!

Long time before this link, this info is only found among the hawadle not other media

http://www.hiiraantimes.com/2015/07/6360/


No wonder how your jowhar governor was surprised about the conference taking place in beledweyne!

Three weeks ago there was delegation from farah abdulqadir to beledweyne

Closest village of his jufo to hiiraan is abaalay and its inside the ethiopian boders...when they got told this they started meeting with gugundhabe in hawlwadaag!

Theres ethiopian plan of filling in the admin with their own somali ethiopian jawaasiis Somali hawadle prefers to reach a direct deal with abgaal, hassan is not giving the chance for this to happen bc he fears the clans the most...

me and other guys have advised hawadle to back a gugundhabe candidate....guys like ex hildhibaan gaagaale whos close friend of beesha, hes baadicade or some one from jajeele and keep the capital too!

Have you thinked of this way? Lol
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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sahal80 wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:Abgaal will get the president post 100%. Guddomiyaha baarlamanka waxaa qaadanayo xawaadle. Guddomiye ku xigeenka labaad Gaaljecel. The capital will be Beledweyne.
shirib analysis aka shaaciye!

Reer unnukaa leh!
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reer unuka leh kulaha. Don't get angry about the reality. We got an entire gobol on lock while there is gugundhabe,gaaljecel,ujeejen,dir in hiiraan. Who dyou think gugundhabe,gaaljecel, Ujeejeen and dir will vote for? Caasimada hadii aad qaadatiin ma dacwo aa ka qaabtaa
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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You guys are naive as hell. Bilaash aad u murmaysiin. Meesha qabiil ma yaallo. Madaxweynaha waxaa qaadanaayo ninkii laaluska ugu badan bixiya. Did you forgot how Madoobe , Sakiin and Guuled became presidents ? Money Talks, Bullshit Walks.
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GiJaamac is right. For crying out loud, with unwanteds such as Guled, Sakin and Madobe sitting snug on their thrones, I have a feeling we're all in for a surprise.
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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Warsheekh wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:Abgaal will get the president post 100%. Guddomiyaha baarlamanka waxaa qaadanayo xawaadle. Guddomiye ku xigeenka labaad Gaaljecel. The capital will be Beledweyne.
shirib analysis aka shaaciye!

Reer unnukaa leh!
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reer unuka leh kulaha. Don't get angry about the reality. We got an entire gobol on lock while there is gugundhabe,gaaljecel,ujeejen,dir in hiiraan. Who dyou think gugundhabe,gaaljecel, Ujeejeen and dir will vote for? Caasimada hadii aad qaadatiin ma dacwo aa ka qaabtaa
lol this is the bigger reality: middle shabelle is a home of all the clans of hiiraan to the point they have borders with every single abgaal clan. Do you wanna me post all their territories? On the westside of the river up to balcad control at qalimoow is settled by mainly gaaljecel and then hawadle....we share borders in there with mobileen osman

At around the borders in the middle is settled by baadicade and hawadle such as the buurwayn of baadicade, fiidow of hawadle...we share borders in there witg harti abgaal...take the jareer dominated mahadaay, next, jowhar is a home for all the hiiraan clans too with too much jareer presence .we have borders here with warsangali on the west. as nomads gaaljecel has been In jowhar before abgaal who arrived with the italians as workers

First abgaal political presence in jowhar was mahamed dheere but before him a hawadle militia was in control of jowhar in 3 years!

Moving on, on the south east, you got the gaaljecel of jimbileey, next to the ruun nirgood of wacbuudhan!

This is south of jalalaqsi inside the middle shabelle borders!

east of jalalaqsi, you the hawadle of adan yabaal and ceel baraf lol

I can go on like the shaaw of gaaljecel!

Abgaal pure settlements are found on the shore line such as warsheekh, cadale, balcad up to northern xamar!

Dont forget hiiraan is way bigger than middle shabelle and has even more districts; 5 vs 4

Unnukaaleh maaha maamulkan!

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http://www.shaaciye.com/site/?p=53548
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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GIJaamac wrote:You guys are naive as hell. Bilaash aad u murmaysiin. Meesha qabiil ma yaallo. Madaxweynaha waxaa qaadanaayo ninkii laaluska ugu badan bixiya. Did you forgot how Madoobe , Sakiin and Guuled became presidents ? Money Talks, Bullshit Walks.
I have never claimed so. Me and korneel were just doing our analysis based on the political affiliations until reer unnukaa leh landed with their "god given rights"
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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sahal.


Nobody is denying there are other clans than abgaal in shabellada dhexe. There are clans like Gaaljecel,baddicadde even xawaadle. They are a tiny minority. When someone hear the name shabellada dhexe they automatically think of Abgaal. Nimaan abgaal ahayn waxba kama ahan gobolka. To compare shabellada dhexe with hiiraan is laughable tbh.
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guhad122 wrote:There should not be any doubt that Abgaal would be the president in this legit state. The reason is Shebeelada Dhexe is more clan homogenous than Hiiraan. There is even a doubt that Xawaadle make up the majority in Hiiraan when in Shabeelada Dhexe, who is the majority was never in doubt. Think about Caliyaale, Balcad , and Warsheek are almost exclusively Abgaal cities. Jowhar is kind ddiverse with huge Bantu population. On the other hand, every single Hiiraan city has diverse clans.

Wish this state the best :up: :up: :up:
The truth and nothing but the truth lol. :stylin:
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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Warsheekh wrote:sahal.


Nobody is denying there are other clans than abgaal in shabellada dhexe. There are clans like Gaaljecel,baddicadde even xawaadle. They are a tiny minority. When someone hear the name shabellada dhexe they automatically think of Abgaal. Nimaan abgaal ahayn waxba kama ahan gobolka. To compare shabellada dhexe with hiiraan is laughable tbh.
Lol there r more traditional clans in middle shabelle than hiiraan. m. Sh. Is traditional land for jareer, gaaljecel is more found in m sh than in hiiraan . I will give you real figures. Our gaaljecel r poor geeljiri folks who has never opposed us until 2000. They were part of col hassan qalaads admin. In mid 90s, after our clash with HG, hussein aideed and allah yarhamoo caato have organized the non native wealthy gaaljecel-caloofi-

Perior to this, during the HG occupation of hiiraan, a caloofi elder who has been recently killed by al shabab for being close to the admin, has arrived beledweyne for business and he strongly backed the occupation....after the liberation he has been captured around luuqjeelow fleeying to buqaqable and he was close to get killed by militia but was released by orders from ugaas khalif allah yarhamo to avoid clannish cuqdad

All the guys you see since the death of col qalaad allah yarhamo in every hiiraan admin r caloofi just to silence them

Some of them have been given business contracts by the admin like that man who got killed by al shabab


Qalafoow is caloofi from jowhar!
http://universalsomalitv.net/topics/new ... ji-quuroow

Gaaljecel of hiiraan are called abtisame, their traditional leaders (ugaasyo) and they r based in buq aqable

But in the politics caloofi is dominating...every gaaljecel minister has been caloofi 90 percent, if not its barsane both of them r reer m sh!

Sh garwayne was from the courts of hiiraan that why he was abtisame

But gaalcel has issued statements saying he doesnt represent them!

Caloofi is the biggest jufo of gaaljecel who r part of the doorwaaq subclans in the two shabelle

Lower shabeele, from yaaqbariweyne, leego to bali doogle r mainly luhube gaaljecel

Some some jufooyin can be found everywhere but in juboooyinka they r mainly doqondiid and ahmed adan

I just explained s§ o you can read their own links

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... AKsKvqotiw

http://www.somaaljecel.com/wp/?p=8193

If gaal jecel have borders with agoon yare, wardangali, mobileen, wacboodhan and r around balcad how can you claim this region as yours? Dont forget the rest of the clans in mahadaay and jowhar. we know who makes up the majority in these two towns!

You logic is abgaal is stronger and uses their influence in mogadoshu!

abgaal is a big clan but it doesnt mean they make up more than 50 percent in this region
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sahal80 wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:sahal.


Nobody is denying there are other clans than abgaal in shabellada dhexe. There are clans like Gaaljecel,baddicadde even xawaadle. They are a tiny minority. When someone hear the name shabellada dhexe they automatically think of Abgaal. Nimaan abgaal ahayn waxba kama ahan gobolka. To compare shabellada dhexe with hiiraan is laughable tbh.
Lol there r more traditional clans in middle shabelle than hiiraan. m. Sh. Is traditional land for jareer, gaaljecel is more found in m sh than in hiiraan . I will give you real figures. Our gaaljecel r poor geeljiri folks who has never opposed us until 2000. They were part of col hassan qalaads admin. In mid 90s, after our clash with HG, hussein aideed and allah yarhamoo caato have organized the non native wealthy gaaljecel-caloofi-

Perior to this, during the HG occupation of hiiraan, a caloofi elder who has been recently killed by al shabab for being close to the admin, has arrived beledweyne for business and he strongly backed the occupation....after the liberation he has been captured around luuqjeelow fleeying to buqaqable and he was close to get killed by militia but was released by orders from ugaas khalif allah yarhamo to avoid clannish cuqdad

All the guys you see since the death of col qalaad allah yarhamo in every hiiraan admin r caloofi just to silence them

Some of them have been given business contracts by the admin like that man who got killed by al shabab


Qalafoow is caloofi from jowhar!
http://universalsomalitv.net/topics/new ... ji-quuroow

Gaaljecel of hiiraan are called abtisame, their traditional leaders (ugaasyo) and they r based in buq aqable

But in the politics caloofi is dominating...every gaaljecel minister has been caloofi 90 percent, if not its barsane both of them r reer m sh!

Sh garwayne was from the courts of hiiraan that why he was abtisame

But gaalcel has issued statements saying he doesnt represent them!

Caloofi is the biggest jufo of gaaljecel who r part of the doorwaaq subclans in the two shabelle

Lower shabeele, from yaaqbariweyne, leego to bali doogle r mainly luhube gaaljecel

Some some jufooyin can be found everywhere but in juboooyinka they r mainly doqondiid and ahmed adan

I just explained s§ o you can read their own links

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... AKsKvqotiw

http://www.somaaljecel.com/wp/?p=8193

If gaal jecel have borders with agoon yare, wardangali, mobileen, wacboodhan and r around balcad how can you claim this region as yours? Dont forget the rest of the clans in mahadaay and jowhar. we know who makes up the majority in these two towns!

You logic is abgaal is stronger and uses their influence in mogadoshu!

abgaal is a big clan but it doesnt mean they make up more than 50 percent in this region
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Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
Cali Guudlaawe xuseen (Harti-Abgaal)


Gudoomiye Kuxigeenka 1aad ee dhinaca siyaasada
Yuusuf Cabdi Cabulle (Yuusuf Jaalle) (Wacbuudhan/Maxamed Muuse)

Gudoomiye kuxigeenka 2aad dhinaca Maaliyada iyo Horumarinta
Cali Cusmaan Ibraahim (Gaaljecel/Caloofi)

Gudoomiye Kuxigeenka 3aad ee dhinaca Nabadgelyada iyo Arrimaha Bulshada
Maxamed Guunshe Maxamed (Harti-Abgaal/Agoonyar)

Xoghayaha guud ee Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
C/llaahi Cali Axmed (Indhooy) (Harti-Abgaal/Owbakar)


Taliyaha Qeybta Booliska ee Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
G/sare Maxamed Cabdi Eeboow (Moobleen Cismaan)

Gudoomiyaha degmada ahna Duqa Magaalada Jowhar
Maxamed Amiin Xaaji Cusmaan Caqiil (Shiidle/Sagaale)

Sidoo kale Gudoomiyeyaasha degmooyinka ayaa iyana sidan loo magacaabay:-

1- Gudoomiyaha degmada Mahadaay:- Shariif Abukar Axmed. (Harti Abgaal)
2-Gudoomiyaha degmada Balcad:- Cusman Maxamed Maxamuud. (Bariise/Mataan/ Wacbuudhan)
3- Gudoomiyaha degmada Warsheekh:- Axmed Cali Xasan "Tuuji" (Xasan Gaab/ Celi /Wacbuudhan)
4- Gudoomiyaha degmada Raage-Ceelle:- Yusuf Xaaji Maxamed Nur (Maxamed Muuse)
5-Gudoomiyaha degmada Aadan yabaal:- Maxamed Sheekh Xasan Maxamuud. ( Harti Abgaal)
6-Gudoomiyaha degmada Cadale:- Muxidiin Suudi Macalin. (Cabdala Caroone, / Harti Abgaal)
7-Gudoomiyaha degmada Ruunir-good:- Muxidiin Cabdi Calasow. (Suufi Cali/ Isaaq da'ud/ Wacbuudhan ).


This is whats up.
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Re: candidates for hiiraan and middle shabelle

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Warsheekh wrote:
Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
Cali Guudlaawe xuseen (Harti-Abgaal)


Gudoomiye Kuxigeenka 1aad ee dhinaca siyaasada
Yuusuf Cabdi Cabulle (Yuusuf Jaalle) (Wacbuudhan/Maxamed Muuse)

Gudoomiye kuxigeenka 2aad dhinaca Maaliyada iyo Horumarinta
Cali Cusmaan Ibraahim (Gaaljecel/Caloofi)

Gudoomiye Kuxigeenka 3aad ee dhinaca Nabadgelyada iyo Arrimaha Bulshada
Maxamed Guunshe Maxamed (Harti-Abgaal/Agoonyar)

Xoghayaha guud ee Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
C/llaahi Cali Axmed (Indhooy) (Harti-Abgaal/Owbakar)


Taliyaha Qeybta Booliska ee Gobolka Shabellaha Dhexe
G/sare Maxamed Cabdi Eeboow (Moobleen Cismaan)

Gudoomiyaha degmada ahna Duqa Magaalada Jowhar
Maxamed Amiin Xaaji Cusmaan Caqiil (Shiidle/Sagaale)

Sidoo kale Gudoomiyeyaasha degmooyinka ayaa iyana sidan loo magacaabay:-

1- Gudoomiyaha degmada Mahadaay:- Shariif Abukar Axmed. (Harti Abgaal)
2-Gudoomiyaha degmada Balcad:- Cusman Maxamed Maxamuud. (Bariise/Mataan/ Wacbuudhan)
3- Gudoomiyaha degmada Warsheekh:- Axmed Cali Xasan "Tuuji" (Xasan Gaab/ Celi /Wacbuudhan)
4- Gudoomiyaha degmada Raage-Ceelle:- Yusuf Xaaji Maxamed Nur (Maxamed Muuse)
5-Gudoomiyaha degmada Aadan yabaal:- Maxamed Sheekh Xasan Maxamuud. ( Harti Abgaal)
6-Gudoomiyaha degmada Cadale:- Muxidiin Suudi Macalin. (Cabdala Caroone, / Harti Abgaal)
7-Gudoomiyaha degmada Ruunir-good:- Muxidiin Cabdi Calasow. (Suufi Cali/ Isaaq da'ud/ Wacbuudhan ).


This is whats up.
lol this doesnt proof shyt. Before our local changes, dabageed was the governor and adan garaaso was the mayor both were hawadle!

Some local hawadle jufos r rivals of caliyaal so, they were given the mayorship.

But bc of gaaljecel we had to be fair.. duqa beledweyne baadiyow doesnt run the show rather gudoomiyaha magaalada qalafoow.

Jowhar mayor was jareer under sharif.. what happened to the hawadle deputy in the admin who was appointed by godah?

Historically the mayor of jowhar was hawadle since the collapse of siyad barre regime.

Depite being the majority in buuloburde we have allocated the mayor for baadicade.

We aint unnukaa leh lol
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