Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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Somali is Moving ahead This is good example , police chiefs across Somalia in Mogadishu for training and siminar .




DAAWO SAWIRRADA: Taliyaha booliska oo saraakiil ciidan u furay siminaar
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Akhristayaasheena sharafta leh waxaan halkaan idinkugu soo gudbineynaa sawirada siminaar maanta uu Muqdisho uga furay taliyaha ciidanka booliska Soomaaliyeed Sareeyo Gaas Maxamed Sheekh Xasan Xaamud, kaasi oo loo qabtay saraakiil ciidan oo ka kala socda maamul goboleedyada dalka jira iyo gobollada kale ee aan weli laga hirgelin nidaamka federaalka ah.
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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There will never again be a somalia wide civil war again, only political competition. Even this political competition will eventually end as the federal states become more capable. Mogadishu will only have one role which is to divide the aid that comes from the international community equitably. That's it, no other political role for the FGS. That is what Puntland would like to see.
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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thegoodshepherd wrote:There will never again be a somalia wide civil war again, only political competition. Even this political competition will eventually end as the federal states become more capable. Mogadishu will only have one role which is to divide the aid that comes from the international community equitably. That's it, no other political role for the FGS. That is what Puntland would like to see.
but isn't that akin to virtual secession of federal states which renders your nation somalia non existent as a viable country - what you're proposing is unacceptable to most people of somalia including the majority hawiye and will surely set the stage of bloodshed
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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thegoodshepherd wrote:There will never again be a somalia wide civil war again, only political competition. Even this political competition will eventually end as the federal states become more capable. Mogadishu will only have one role which is to divide the aid that comes from the international community equitably. That's it, no other political role for the FGS. That is what Puntland would like to see.
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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THE_TRUTH1 wrote:Sahal

Why have you switch side into becoming Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud hater lately !!!!

Somali Gov and Turkey Defense agreement is going perfect and strong as planned


Somali Ground force training september 2015 In Turkey
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This is not about scholarship my friend! This is about turkish military training bases inside somalia!

If you want you can sign all ports contract with turkey and you will be defended by any external threat!

Ethiopia aritaan waxee u aragtaa arintaa qatar wayn barkee somalia faraheeda ka baxeesa!

Marka waxee villa u sheegeen in si ay arintaan ugu kalsoonaadaan wider cooperation laga dhigo oo amisom
Ku jirto!

Sh sharif couldnt implement this agreement before from his side
http://mobile.todayszaman.com/diplomacy ... 97699.html

Inside somalia
http://www.raxanreeb.com/2014/02/somali ... -ministry/


Dawlada marekanks ayaa markee ka quusatey qolada villa iyo wareerka dawlad goboleedka ayee waxee soo jeedisay in somalia laga qabto dhinaca ciidanka intii ay dawlad dhexe ay ka dhalanayso in xaga ciidanka laga dhiso, macnaha as independent military institution oo qaab sir ah ayaga ku xiran sida masar oo kale oo isku xiran ilaa gobolada dhan saasna failed state kaga baxdo somalia

Waxaa kaloo ku jiray sadex branch oo special forces ah; balidoogle, kismayo iyo galkacyo iyo american base oo hadhoow lagu xoojiyo mustaqbalka fog

John kerry ayaa markii uu addis tagey oo uu xassan kula kulmay u sheegay in intaan ka badan aan la sugi karin oo uu fashilmay hadana ay ayaga amniga la wareegayaan, waxaa soo boodat ethiopia oo tiri war ka jooga sheekadan somalia wali ma gaarin heerkan argagixisaa ka buuxdo oo hubka la wareegi

Kerry wuxuu ku yiri this a bilateral relationship so stay out of this!

Dawlada ingriisa oo nick kay ku qaraabata ayaa soo dhex gashey waa tii yuulka tagey shirkii london security oo SNA loo qabtey

Hada waxey sheegeen inay soo dirayaan boqolaal askar oo tababar siisa ciidanka somalia, waa arintii turkiga laga hor istaagey laakin ingiriis ma diidi karaan!

Dawlada turjiga waxay ku tiri war anagu miis lama fariisano african gaajo ah ee hadaad ka cabsaneysaan maxaad noogu sheegi weyseen anagaa kor iyo reer galbeedka ka soo dhamayn laheen!

Sxb aniga waligeey naqdiga waa samayn jiray laakiin hada waxaa ii cadaatey in nimankaan rajo aan laga filan karin

Waxaa jira map amisom ah oo cusub oo ethiopia min qoryooley ilaa kismayo kula wareegayso!

Qoryooleey way la wareegeen hadana kismaayey generalo u direen waxa kuu haray waa xamar!



Thats whyvi said musiibada ugu wayn waa leadershipka
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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BigBreak wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:12 am after al kebab is defeated im afraid that the new conflict in ex italian somalia will be between those who are for a strong central govt and those for a weak/absent central govt. inevitably this war will be on clan and sub clan lines.

the civil war in the usa could be replicated in koonfuria

pro strong central government
sfg, galmudug, hiirshabelle, anti madobe j-landers

anti strong central government
puntland, pro madobe j-landers, southwest, ahlu sunnah

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I knew I wasn't the only one thinking like this

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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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Another prescient analysis by Sahal.
Hopefully Somalis can look to their local regions for stability while the SFG can begin to develop a national blueprint for Somalia.

As far as aid is concerned only emergency relief and technical aid should be accepted......no bags of cash being flown into Mogadishu.
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Re: Upcoming Federal/Confederal phase of civil war

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original dervish wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:34 am Another prescient analysis by Sahal.
Hopefully Somalis can look to their local regions for stability while the SFG can begin to develop a national blueprint for Somalia.

As far as aid is concerned only emergency relief and technical aid should be accepted......no bags of cash being flown into Mogadishu.
But can Somalia ever fully recover and cease to be a failed state without first having a strong central government that firmly controls every inch of 🇸🇴 given that it was a strong central government that destroyed Somalia in the first place. Talk about a Catch 22 situation
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