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Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:50 pm
by sahal80
[quote="thegoodshepherd"][quote="sahal80"]According to the arabs of oman, these families have arrived during the al boo saciid atate(al barqash) as soldiers and prison keepers, hence they still carry their cajami-non arabic- names[/quote]


That is wrong history. They arrived after the 1845 drought in Bari. They were originally frankincense traders who used to export to Cuman. When the drought became very bad one group from Raas Xaafun went to waamo and helped found Kismayo, while another group from Calula Qandala ila Las Qorey went to Cuman on the frankincense dhows.

They have always been traders and business people. It is part of Reer Bari culture.

For example, this guy is the Oman general manager for HSBC

https://www.linkedin.com/in/abdul-qadir ... i-58580213[/quote]dhulbahante ma ganacsataa? There is al bahante too. sxb these people came to oman longer than these harti in kismayo. They arrived in oman with the socatrians as soldiers. saltanate mahra in socatra was under the iman of oman and zinjibar so they used to provide him an army, as harti were the closest somalis to there they recruited some of them..yes they have now business in oman bc they r the same people and speak the same language

Dhulbahnte in kismayo have fled to there from darawishta according to ali khalif, one of them is the kenyan FM whos granfather was a soldier in the british army...there was another dhulbahnte wave after the defeat of daraawishta. these guys have similar military background

When you want to document some thing outside somalia read for the arabs who r good at this.


I disagree with itrah, these lost harti in oman can play a good role for PL interests

current minister of live stock saciid ciid is arab saalax...this guy is behind the idea of pls chambre of commerce but he became the vice president due to clan sensitivity...he used to make tours in oman and the US, UK bc he was more educated than his boss and speaks english and arabic ...he made relations with dhofar region

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/ ... oman-pics/

The guy who became the president(xayir) was from the pakistan uns , finally this guy has became an mp in xamar and saciid as the vice president has replaced him but soon they called for elections and he lost it!

He joined this govt through abdulqadir osoble as pro-ictisam and cumareey did not mind him since they r related maternally

Some look like arabs
http://mhroman.com/2015/03/18/%D8%A7%D9 ... %B1%D9%8A/

Some still look like somalis

http://www.maqalaty.com/profile/11151.html

Notice: somalis have been accepted by mahra or dhofar tribes unlike of the arabs bc mahra themselves had suffered from arab racism long time(read what the arab historians said about them)

Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:16 pm
by thegoodshepherd
Sahal, I have deep knowledge about these people and have even talked to a few Siwaaqroon guys about what the history is. They clearly said that they left during the 5 year Abaar in Bari. The Dhulbahante that left are mostly Bah Righaye who live with Warsangeli in Sanaag.They were not soldiers and were not recruited by Barqash. The Warsangelis in Oman live in Muscat as far as I know, not in Dhofar.

I have not seen any information on them being recruited by some army. Most of the time it was Harti recruiting people from Hadrmawt, the famous example being the founding of the Hobyo Sultanate. I think you are a liar and a dirty hutu.

Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:21 pm
by RoobleAlWaliid
Doofaar Image

This is what happens when you don't value your own you look to claim others. The midgaan of Arabia weliba. :lol:

Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:04 pm
by sahal80
Kkk your the dirty hutu!

I havent insulted you so what r you made about? I have been respectful to these guys and said they have been accepted by the semitic tribes..what more you want..come to the real arab world if you think they can treat you better than that!

This is a forum and i shared my info just like you have shared yours no one is forcing you to believe it

I'm a lier? Theres a book about them and baloushs stating this....I dont have the book, I read parts of the book in some somali-arabic site posted by warsangali folks...I cant share the link to protect my identity bc i had contribution in there with my facebook account. However, I just googled their words and came across this other link..read the first answer.

http://www.s-oman.net/avb/showthread.php?t=73336


I will let you there. Byee!

Rooblewalid

Its zafar in arabic, a semitic biblical name....they r the sons of joktan known in arabic as qaxtan the people of prophet houd...arabs and jewish belong to the abrahamic semitic branch

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=D7I ... AQ6AEIMjAI

Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:43 pm
by sahal80
I have sent a message to the guy in the arabic site and he said to me the ones who look like typical arabs have been there over 200 years, they arrived there with barqash as soldiers so that why they got names like salim bin fulan bin until their subclans but the ones who look like somalis and have full somali names arrived there as traders a century after and they were going back and forth until they finally settled there

I have got one of them here who says they arrived there both as traders and soldiers

they confused with him bc there r no tribal relations between quraysh and these tribes who r not even arabs but I guess hes just giving them his somali tribal account
http://www.alaqeeliuon.com/vb/archive/i ... 16042.html

Ok I'm out now.

Re: Interview with Siwaaqroon MJ photographer in Oman

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:19 pm
by thegoodshepherd
RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Doofaar Image

This is what happens when you don't value your own you look to claim others. The midgaan of Arabia weliba. :lol:
This has nothing to do with race, Somalis back in those days thought of themselves as muslims and as tribe members.

Dhofaris are not Arab but Southern Semites, like how Assyrians are Northen Semites. They are not midgo by any stretch, but one of the most civilized people on the arabian peninsula. They founded most Swahili cities.