Its difficult to be a unionist

[Rambie]

Barbie

Your one of those recent tahriib kids brought up with canobooro, you have no clue of history,Siyad berre didn't rule anything in the 60's until the very last few months of it, Aden Abdullah Osman Daar an Hawiye was the first ever president ruling in the 60's, before that we had the Hiraab immate then Ajuuran sultanate for the best part of centuries, no one has more history then we do.

If you want to engage in a debate with me come with facts sxb, I'll promise to chase you out of these forums like I have already done to many before you

AGENT447

Sxb these new breeds of Isaaq's most of them reer tahriib khaat addicts, are like that Westernised materialistic girlfriend, she is with you when $$$ keeps paying for her lingeries food & make-up, but the moment crisis strikes just like the whore she always was, she is gone to find herself a new suitors, ask yourself why they mediated the conflict between the cancer of Somalia that is Puntland (that's how they describe them) and utterly refused to do the same to the others when they requested it, even gone as far as threatening to jail those that tried? I tell you why, it will endanger the Ictiraaf, they want the place to burn to the ground, that's why you see all these terrorist attacks funded by dhiigshiil

I am trying to show the light to my wadani reer koonfurian's that are intoxicated with this unionism crap to let go of this whore and slowly kill that love they still have for her.

Obvioulsy I know more about Somali history than you since I already
karbashed you several times before. But it appears that you didn't pick up the lesson.
Somalia from 1960-1991 is my favorite period when looking in archives, especially in 80s

But like the cambulu crackhead you are talking out'f your ass simultaneously.I don't care what
irrelevant Hawiya president first ruled Somalia in 1960 you probably knew about him from one of my
screen shots. Plus, your so called president being the first to rule Somlia doesn't mean you guys were unionist.
If it wasn't for Isaaq, he would have only ruled Somalia Itali not Somaliland included. But since the cambulu you eat after salat
jimca, I am not sure you'll digest what I just said. So I'll keep it simple.


Yes or No

Did the Hawiya were the last clan to revolt against Siad Barre?
Did not the Hawiya enjoy economic prosperity and development under Siad Barre?

Did not the Hawiya level Xamar to the ground after infighting?
Did not the Hawiya massacre Darrod & Rahawanyan civilians in the south?

Did not the Hawiya hold back Somalia for over 25 years duo to lack of compromise?
Are not the Hawiya currently monopolizing power in Somlaia and preventing any progress?

And here you are now asking why did not Isaaq come and mediate between
Hawiya in the south? How pathetic is that? You had the WHOLE WORLD mediating between
you but with no vail. An entire clan (Cissa of Djibouti) did it best to bring you into the table but
I guess once a Moryaan, you're always a Moryaan. You guys welcomed Abdirxman Tuur as representer of Isaaq during
Inter Isaaq wars to ignite the conflict, yet you have the check to call us traitors while playing victim? And FYI during PL civil war
it wasn't whole Isaaq who mediated between Majertin, but an elder of my own HJ/Muse Abokor sub clan, Boqor Buurmadow. We were freash out of war making peace between Somalis when you guys were still drinking the blood of Raxanywan & minorities in the south.

[smooth]

Barbie

You seriously need to go out more to get rid of all that festering stagnation and cognitive dysfunction, much of you what you said doesn't deserve a response, your just trolling, look at your pathetic logic about the last clan to revolt as if that means anything, if anything the first uprisings are to blame that's SSFD and you.

What massacres you talking about? there is a video of my uncle qeybdiid letting go 5000 Jaberti's in Kismaayo, how are Hawiye monopolizing everything if it's 4.5 ? they have 61MP's just like you, what have they held back for 25 years? I already debunked this myth and had no jaberti to challenge me that never mind Hawiye but Habar Gidir alone had more FUNCTIONING maamul then the WHOLE OF DAROOD put together, if you want me to debate that debunked crap come to this thread and I will karbaash you like the canobooro fed thariibi that you are
viewtopic.php?f=250&t=373379&start=15

Xamar despite it's utter destruction for so long has no rival city coming even close to it, it was listed as the fastest growing which you cannot dispute over people still come to it in droves, in 25 years with all your talks of you built Somalia along with Jaberti's crap why haven't you surpassed Mogadishu which didn't see 25 years of peace? why is your place still a shithole? Why you still have water shortages everywhere and people drinking the blood of goats to quench thirst? even oromo are drinking the blood of your children? what progress have you made despite all the aid and your begging bowls that were filled everywhere? Don't come to me with crap your airport was built by turks because yours was done by Kuwait, even the previous airport looked way better then what you have now

Tahriib kid, Abdirahman tuur had alliance with Ceydiid long before that, there was no mediation stop lying to yourself, what Djibouti has done with 4.5 was a tragedy to Hawiye at that time, a people completely chased out of the country have been made relevant in that system and we see the fruits of it today, Somaliland mediated between the warring fractions of Puntland, that was the official version all over TV at that time, don't try to change the narrative, the state has officially come out against mediation in Koonfur, it was a wonderful news for me at that time, because I knew what you guys were like but most of my people didn't but they woke up.

Tell me what you have done for Somalia, what battle with foreigners you ever fought? just tell me anything you done other then mediate conflict between Mohamoud saleeban cancer, if you left these bastards to each other there wouldn't be no Puntland and they wouldn't have had all the $$$ to fund Fitnah in Koonfur which they do until this day, just tell me anything, 100.000 of my men died fighting Xabashi's liberating Mogadishu, White Phosphorous was used against them, many tanks and helicopters were shot down, just tell me what you ever done for Somalia? I really want to hear it.

[Rambie]

Barbie

You seriously need to go out more to get rid of all that festering stagnation and cognitive dysfunction, much of you what you said doesn't deserve a response, your just trolling, look at your pathetic logic about the last clan to revolt as if that means anything, if anything the first uprisings are to blame that's SSFD and you.


What massacres you talking about? there is a video of my uncle qeybdiid letting go 5000 Jaberti's in Kismaayo, how are Hawiye monopolizing everything if it's 4.5 ? they have 61MP's just like you, what have they held back for 25 years? I already debunked this myth and had no jaberti to challenge me that never mind Hawiye but Habar Gidir alone had more FUNCTIONING maamul then the WHOLE OF DAROOD put together, if you want me to debate that debunked crap come to this thread and I will karbaash you like the canobooro fed thariibi that you are
viewtopic.php?f=250&t=373379&start=15

Xamar despite it's utter destruction for so long has no rival city coming even close to it, it was listed as the fastest growing which you cannot dispute over people still come to it in droves, in 25 years with all your talks of you built Somalia along with Jaberti's crap why haven't you surpassed Mogadishu which didn't see 25 years of peace? why is your place still a shithole? Why you still have water shortages everywhere and people drinking the blood of goats to quench thirst? even oromo are drinking the blood of your children? what progress have you made despite all the aid and your begging bowls that were filled everywhere? Don't come to me with crap your airport was built by turks because yours was done by Kuwait, even the previous airport looked way better then what you have now

Tahriib kid, Abdirahman tuur had alliance with Ceydiid long before that, there was no mediation stop lying to yourself, what Djibouti has done with 4.5 was a tragedy to Hawiye at that time, a people completely chased out of the country have been made relevant in that system and we see the fruits of it today, Somaliland mediated between the warring fractions of Puntland, that was the official version all over TV at that time, don't try to change the narrative, the state has officially come out against mediation in Koonfur, it was a wonderful news for me at that time, because I knew what you guys were like but most of my people didn't but they woke up.

Tell me what you have done for Somalia, what battle with foreigners you ever fought? just tell me anything you done other then mediate conflict between Mohamoud saleeban cancer, if you left these bastards to each other there wouldn't be no Puntland and they wouldn't have had all the $$$ to fund Fitnah in Koonfur which they do until this day, just tell me anything, 100.000 of my men died fighting Xabashi's liberating Mogadishu, White Phosphorous was used against them, many tanks and helicopters were shot down, just tell me what you ever done for Somalia? I really want to hear it.

Smooth AKA the brain dead Hutu,


So you cry when we don't make peace between you, but you also cry when we make peace
among ourselfs & neighbors? How does that work you cambulu crack head. It's not m fault you're a brain dead Hutu who doesn't know how to behave unless his Ethiopian/Fufu master is around.

Bragging about how Xamar is re-developing so quickly after it's diminish while he should have kept it intact in the first place shows your tunnel vision & primitive mind. It wasn't you who built it, and certainly you are not building it now. Italians, Siad Barre and today international community under your Bantu overlorads are building the pearl of the Indian ocean again.


So are you claiming you guys didn't cause the famine in Bay & Bakool 92/93?
Are you denying the fact that Hawiya have been massacring minorities, stealing AID, looting properties and even landline cables?
Do you think you can wash all that with a fake claim of you "releasing" so called 5,000 Darood? (I bet it's a lie)

Didn't you guys refused every attempt to compromise for the national interest of the country? And now your ungrateful cambulu ass
is throwing Djbouti under the bus. You should never bite the hand that feed you, they were the ones who refused to recognize Somaliland in your favor. They are the ones who are securing your country under AMISOM and most importantly, they introduced
4.5 system in Carta which your entire clan is holding on it today hand and teeth. Does all that that is suposed to show your so called unionists stand and fake ass Somalinimo?


And why do you always talk about your Ethiopian masters?
Just because you fought them in 2007 due to your low IQ and savagniom
doesn't mean you're a true national to your country. Heck your so called leader
During the war against Ethiopia was turned into a puppet in the hands of your Xabashi masters.




Some one drop that photo of Shiekh Shariif transformation from a radical Imaam to a hip hop rapper!



It's amusing how you always talk about Ethiopia
invasion as something to be proud of, didn't your particular sub clan collaborated
with the Dhabacyo to bring them in and now you wash your hand from them? What side
your cambulu ass is shaking for today? Go make another thread why HSM is the greatest Leader Somalia ever had.

[Rambie]

Yeah, I forget your stupid question on Isaaq.
What have we done for Somalia? Well, for a start we MADE Somalia
with the union in 1960, we contributed heavily to livestock trade the backbone
of the Somali economy from 1960-1991. We brought Somalia to the Arab league through
Omer Arteh Qaliib (Isaaq traitor) and all the military aid & loans that followed from the Arab world.


We have made peace
in our lands and didn't retaliate against our
neighbor clans and the foot soldiers of SNA (you clan the Hawiya included)


What did you brought to Somalia you cambulu crackhead? Let me guess:

Poor Af Somali

Moryanimo

Fasad fii' arth (corruption)

Bantue invasion

Niiko

Failed state

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[mahoka]

Extreme karbash by mujahid Rambie, he showed no mercy

[theyuusuf143]

Well done Hawdian and rambie

[JSL3000]

Yeah, I forget your stupid question on Isaaq.
What have we done for Somalia? Well, for a start we MADE Somalia
with the union in 1960, we contributed heavily to livestock trade the backbone
of the Somali economy from 1960-1991. We brought Somalia to the Arab league through
Omer Arteh Qaliib (Isaaq traitor) and all the military aid & loans that followed from the Arab world.


We have made peace
in our lands and didn't retaliate against our
neighbor clans and the foot soldiers of SNA (you clan the Hawiya included)


What did you brought to Somalia you cambulu crackhead? Let me guess:

Poor Af Somali

Moryanimo

Fasad fii' arth (corruption)

Bantue invasion

Niiko

Failed state

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Dam smoothie dead

[JSL3000]

Extreme karbash by mujahid Rambie, he showed no mercy

Magnificent karbaash

[TheFuturist]

Why are you unionist at the first place.

I fucked up ok

Lol

Have you returned to your senses. The idea of a union sounds really good but unfortunately it is just an idea and it won't be how you imagine it nor will it be as lovely. Two fundamentally different people with different cultures can't share a country

Seriously, I think a union would be great, in theory. But practically speaking I feel like Southern politicians just don't care about the national interest or even sovereignty. They just seem to care about personal power and lining their own pockets.

From now on I will support SL & PL

[TheFuturist]

Don't let hate or tit for tat cloud ur judgement folks, I assure u things are a lot different in real life then it's depicted online.

It neither hate nor tit for tat. It's the sheer incompetence and perpetual failure of the Southern politicians and elite, who love pandering to foreign powers and their interests. It's the occupation of AMISOM rapists who flout Somalia's sovereignty at every opportunity and who are killing innocent civilians. It's the complete failure to engage the North in any meaningful way.

Not good enough.

[TheCadaanGuy]

When will people realise that unity is simply an idea, it is not tied to specific groups.

We should strive towards the final goal whether people around us is unsuitable or not. Insha'allah we will get what we longed for.

[Unionist]

I just be me.

[TheFuturist]

When will people realise that unity is simply an idea, it is not tied to specific groups.

We should strive towards the final goal whether people around us is unsuitable or not. Insha'allah we will get what we longed for.

What is the value of idea, if it is never to be realised?... if those who profess to believe in it, are the ones who most undermine it?

[TheCadaanGuy]

When will people realise that unity is simply an idea, it is not tied to specific groups.

We should strive towards the final goal whether people around us is unsuitable or not. Insha'allah we will get what we longed for.

What is the value of idea, if it is never to be realised?... if those who profess to believe in it, are the ones who most undermine it?

You can never be sure. I can only hope that it happens.

It nearly happened before, why not happen in the future?

According to Islam, those who belongs to bottom level of Hell are those who say I believe but in secret they are but kidding. In the same fashion, those who undermine the unity are the same ones who reject unity. Make no mistake categorising them to pro-unity groups.

It does not matter who is the in current government and what are their views because they are all puppets. Their views are of those puppet masters.