Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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guhad122 wrote:
nerdfresh wrote:5000 Ogadens were killed. All thrown in the river. The gugundhabe civilians who tried to save them were also thrown in the river. River infested with crocodiles even babies were not spared. Gugundhabe militia came in to stop those crazy madmen. This is called jalalaqsi genocide it happened in that town. And then hg came to beledweyne and sent the hawadle to Ethiopia but the Ogaden in Ethiopia did not harm the hawadle. The Ogaden welcomed the hawadle refugees and sheltered them. Ogaden are noble men.

This was the biggest massacre in Somali civil war. The river was red for months. People to this day find bones along their farmlands. Majority women and children victims.

This case needs to go to the hague one of them who orchestrated this genocide lives in UK and another on beledweyne
The numbers were not that high; more like 500 but still that was the single most civilian massacre of the civil war..A fleeing refugees who wanted to leave and cross the border were thrown into the river. Even babies were thrown into the river. Like you said, just a little bit after that, the entire Xawaadle crossed the border and camps were set up near Shilaabo...Ironically, Ogadens were protecting the fleeing Xawaadle civilians from Reer Aw Xassan who always had beef with Xawaadle. Not even one person was skilled. Remember at that time ONLF was very powerful and basically controlled the entire Ogaden and were about to win the elections.
You also forgot what Xawaadle did to the fleeing Habar Gidir civilians from the Muqdisho wars of 2006. When most Habar Gidir civilians fled to Kenya and many IDP relocated to Ceelasha Biyaha, others fled to the Central HG regions. Many of those civilians were raped, robbed, and killed. Rumor has that Xawaadle militias were charging money to civilians in using tree shades at resting places.
Let us wait the naive and the clueless Sahal's irrelevant links and sources.
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500 is wrong. Conservative estimate is 2000 but it has been said 5000 have been killed

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Jalalaqsi was the third largest city in Somalia it had 80,000 in the camps at one point

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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Nerdfresh posting lies or whatever will not add power to your laangaabself

Seek medical receptionist from your hawadle disease!

That's not study it's based on hearsay and from one ogaadeen who scaped the war...

The refugees account say 570 people

Hawadle account 300

I will give you ogaadeen sources confirming they were armed with tanks and launching attacks but let me explain to you first some thing about this tragedy

Just like the loyalist syrian NDF army, barre has used the refugees against the USC.... all their camps have turned into army bases that fight during the day and go back to the camp at night....

So just like the army bases they have been targeted

In october 1990 USC has captured buuloburde and imposed blockade on the highway....gen..Morgan with big army has arrived jowhar and told the BBC has heading buuloburde, situation is fine....but he couldn't bc by this time USC had tanks from the based they captured and all the locals have joined them

Jalalaqsi is close to the regime-held jowhar so the people in that camp have scapped to afgooye and there areas

By jenaury 1990 all refugees were gathered in baledweyne to defend the town....mx commanders have left but the ogaadeen commanders were fighting for the land and expecting SPMs arrival from baay and bakool as you can see in the link

Ina sayidi(gen muxiyadiin) masaakiintii buu ka cararey

Dadkii waxay u kala carareen labo dhinac, dhinaca bakool iyo dhinaca laamiga....this is 13 January but USC hasnt entered the town yet until 17-20...still regime holds mogadishu....all the roads were

So when they come out they have been sent to a message to tell them that they can only go unarmed....they refused....they were armed with tanks

The messenger was going back and forth until they killed him! This is when the war started

How can you let people with arms while the regime is still in mogadishu? What if they attack you from behind and open the road? Their sources r claiming waiting SPM to arrive baledweyne!!

Abaarta wuxuu ka waxaa jidka xiran (3 months)

Magaalada waa looga guurey sadexaad bilood ayeey ka shelling-gareenayeey from xerada lama galaay


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... eHlAhXZJYw

Xoolaha ooy dhici jireen!!
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... CmdS4vg4xg


Nasiib daro somalia civil war ayaa ka dhacay cidii gardarneedna waa la yaqaan oo gurigeeda lagu gubay hadhoow hanaqon qof cabaada

Gudoomiyaha gobolka ogaadeen

Taliyaha ogaadeen

Everywhere ogaadeen

Dagaal toos ah

Anaga dhulkaan u dagaalamaynay waayoo martidii baa la wareegay oo jidadka nagu dharbaaxi jiray.

Anagaa nala gubay waana ka soconay....allah yarham every body.
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Stop lying and take responsibility for umadaad layseen! Xawadle where notorious for killing innocent people. Especially ogaden and habar gidir. You guys are the rednecks of somalia extremely xenophobic.
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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sahal80 wrote:Nerdfresh posting lies or whatever will not add power to your laangaabself

Seek medical receptionist from your hawadle disease!

That's not study it's based on hearsay and from one ogaadeen who scaped the war...

The refugees account say 570 people

Hawadle account 300

I will give you ogaadeen sources confirming they were armed with tanks and launching attacks but let me explain to you first some thing about this tragedy

Just like the loyalist syrian NDF army, barre has used the refugees against the USC.... all their camps have turned into army bases that fight during the day and go back to the camp at night....

So just like the army bases they have been targeted

In october 1990 USC has captured buuloburde and imposed blockade on the highway....gen..Morgan with big army has arrived jowhar and told the BBC has heading buuloburde, situation is fine....but he couldn't bc by this time USC had tanks from the based they captured and all the locals have joined them

Jalalaqsi is close to the regime-held jowhar so the people in that camp have scapped to afgooye and there areas

By jenaury 1990 all refugees were gathered in baledweyne to defend the town....mx commanders have left but the ogaadeen commanders were fighting for the land and expecting SPMs arrival from baay and bakool as you can see in the link

Ina sayidi(gen muxiyadiin) masaakiintii buu ka cararey

Dadkii waxay u kala carareen labo dhinac, dhinaca bakool iyo dhinaca laamiga....this is 13 January but USC hasnt entered the town yet until 17-20...still regime holds mogadishu....all the roads were

So when they come out they have been sent to a message to tell them that they can only go unarmed....they refused....they were armed with tanks

The messenger was going back and forth until they killed him! This is when the war started

How can you let people with arms while the regime is still in mogadishu? What if they attack you from behind and open the road? Their sources r claiming waiting SPM to arrive baledweyne!!

Abaarta wuxuu ka waxaa jidka xiran (3 months)

Magaalada waa looga guurey sadexaad bilood ayeey ka shelling-gareenayeey from xerada lama galaay


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... eHlAhXZJYw

Xoolaha ooy dhici jireen!!
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... CmdS4vg4xg


Nasiib daro somalia civil war ayaa ka dhacay cidii gardarneedna waa la yaqaan oo gurigeeda lagu gubay hadhoow hanaqon qof cabaada

Gudoomiyaha gobolka ogaadeen

Taliyaha ogaadeen

Everywhere ogaadeen

Dagaal toos ah

Anaga dhulkaan u dagaalamaynay waayoo martidii baa la wareegay oo jidadka nagu dharbaaxi jiray.

Anagaa nala gubay waana ka soconay....allah yarham every body.
Sahal actually got a point about ogaden refugees turning into a militia by day and go to the camps by night. They did the same thing in Somaliland
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Thanks Warsheekh, Blood even though you confuse me. Blood adigu ma reer Ethio ba tahay mise Abgaal? I mean I saw you saying "our" Bahir Dar.

Sahal,

Thanks for your input. You may feel you didn't answer my question but you did. Raga kale waxan iswaydarsano waxba ma dheerid. Snet fadhi ku dirir rasas goes every direction.

Lakin waxa cad inay raga kale cadi yahin oo personal uu qadan lakin adigu wadiga isdudubay.

That tells me reer Hawadle hold grudges even though one cyber kid doesn't represent them hadana when I add what's being said and how you behave, I see a picture emerging.
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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AwRastaale wrote:Thanks Warsheekh, Blood even though you confuse me. Blood adigu ma reer Ethio ba tahay mise Abgaal? I mean I saw you saying "our" Bahir Dar.

Sahal,

Thanks for your input. You may feel you didn't answer my question but you did. Raga kale waxan iswaydarsano waxba ma dheerid. Snet fadhi ku dirir rasas goes every direction.

Lakin waxa cad inay raga kale cadi yahin oo personal uu qadan lakin adigu wadiga isdudubay.

That tells me reer Hawadle hold grudges even though one cyber kid doesn't represent them hadana when I add what's being said and how you behave, I see a picture emerging.
if your honest and not trollling jowhar is complete shyt....abdullahi yuusuf said it was worse than living in his prison in Ethiopia! dozens of his militia died of mosquito bites....even donkeys have mosquito nets! A while ago people where laughing when one of reer hiiraan has posted in his page pics from jowhar where a donkey was placed in a cariish and inside mosquito nets written in the page "ala federalism muxuu umad aan isku dhaqan ahayn isku keenay!"

It got 500 likes!


Xciidiiafladihii ciida markii xidigaha geeska xamar aadeen, xidigaha somalia baladweyne..fanaaniin kale has jowhar aadey oo hotel cariish dhoobo ah ku degeen ayagoo sakaraad at bay all noqdeen waxaa dhintay ymu sharif!

Hotelkii has raas ah

Aniga shakhsiyan kama helo xaafadaha abgaal oo caan ku ah kufsiga iyo tuugnimada xataa mobile Laguna qaadan karo


Qaraabadayda xaafadaha HG generally bay ku degeen.

Gurigeena madiino buy ku yaal waan iibin rabnaa....qof casri ah kuma noolaan karo.

Best land is lower shabelle....green and coldest in the south
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sahal80 wrote:Nerdfresh posting lies or whatever will not add power to your laangaabself

Seek medical receptionist from your hawadle disease!

That's not study it's based on hearsay and from one ogaadeen who scaped the war...

The refugees account say 570 people

Hawadle account 300

I will give you ogaadeen sources confirming they were armed with tanks and launching attacks but let me explain to you first some thing about this tragedy

Just like the loyalist syrian NDF army, barre has used the refugees against the USC.... all their camps have turned into army bases that fight during the day and go back to the camp at night....

So just like the army bases they have been targeted

In october 1990 USC has captured buuloburde and imposed blockade on the highway....gen..Morgan with big army has arrived jowhar and told the BBC has heading buuloburde, situation is fine....but he couldn't bc by this time USC had tanks from the based they captured and all the locals have joined them

Jalalaqsi is close to the regime-held jowhar so the people in that camp have scapped to afgooye and there areas

By jenaury 1990 all refugees were gathered in baledweyne to defend the town....mx commanders have left but the ogaadeen commanders were fighting for the land and expecting SPMs arrival from baay and bakool as you can see in the link

Ina sayidi(gen muxiyadiin) masaakiintii buu ka cararey

Dadkii waxay u kala carareen labo dhinac, dhinaca bakool iyo dhinaca laamiga....this is 13 January but USC hasnt entered the town yet until 17-20...still regime holds mogadishu....all the roads were

So when they come out they have been sent to a message to tell them that they can only go unarmed....they refused....they were armed with tanks

The messenger was going back and forth until they killed him! This is when the war started

How can you let people with arms while the regime is still in mogadishu? What if they attack you from behind and open the road? Their sources r claiming waiting SPM to arrive baledweyne!!

Abaarta wuxuu ka waxaa jidka xiran (3 months)

Magaalada waa looga guurey sadexaad bilood ayeey ka shelling-gareenayeey from xerada lama galaay


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... eHlAhXZJYw

Xoolaha ooy dhici jireen!!
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... CmdS4vg4xg


Nasiib daro somalia civil war ayaa ka dhacay cidii gardarneedna waa la yaqaan oo gurigeeda lagu gubay hadhoow hanaqon qof cabaada

Gudoomiyaha gobolka ogaadeen

Taliyaha ogaadeen

Everywhere ogaadeen

Dagaal toos ah

Anaga dhulkaan u dagaalamaynay waayoo martidii baa la wareegay oo jidadka nagu dharbaaxi jiray.

Anagaa nala gubay waana ka soconay....allah yarham every body.
Thia guy is a f-king liar how would people with tanks and weapons as he mention end up being drowned in the river? And majority of women and kids.
What happened was a massacre not a face to face war.
The refugees were looking for an exit route from their camps while Xawadle wanted to be written in the hall of fame of USC as Darood Killers.But even Hawiye were disgusted by this act of savagery
The only face to face war that happened in Baladweyen was when HG chased Xawadle out of Somalia less than 6 hrs.

Xawadle daqan xuumo ba lagu ogyahay. Dadka maatadha bey ugarsadhan.The only way Abgaal will deal with them is by giving them a middle finger in Hiraanshabelle state.
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Sahal all good eebow.
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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Is this guy the patriot?

HG you hawadle hal dagaal baa baladweyne ky dhexmarey meeshoodii baana lagu duugey marka laga reebo xoogaa ku firxadey dhanka ceelbuur oo xataa reer baadiyihii sii dhameeyeen wayoo wadada galbeedka ayaan ka xirnay

HG waxay ka soo galeen magaalada dhinaca liiqliiqato ayadoo habeen tahay....ciidankooda wuxuu ka yimid shabeelada house not matabaan..

Hawadlaha faal bay ku socdaan marka waxay dhaheen lix bilood kadib, maalin hebel, saacad hebel...sifaadka iyo jufada ninja Canada hore ridaya......

Hubaa loo uruursadey iyo ciidan jidkana miinooyin has lol galin jiray as Arab caadi lugtiisa ku waayey

Balantii afaafiil markii la gaarey waxaa lagu kala kacay 4 saac gudahood...ciidan ka yimid halgan, mid ka imaadey abeesaale dhinaca farlibaax, mustaxiil oo hawlwadaag qabtey mid ka imaadey buuraha

Houses is the invaders cemetery! You can invade but make sure to carry with you your coffin!

In this war HG have lost their business in baledweyne, jidka wuxuu ka xirnaa ilaa 98kii shirkii baledweyne kadib waliba ayagoo salaan saaraya bayma jireen

Dagaalkii kale ee na dhexmarey wuxuu ahaa dagaal maamulo...ahlusuna cayr waa karbaashney guriceel baana uga soo harnay

Matabaan waxaan ka dhisnay maamul hoostaga baladweyne oo will labada beel dhaleen baan u dhiibnay iyo sarkaal hawadle ah oo hubka guryahooda ka aruurin jiray

Itoobiyo dhexdhexaad bay aheed markii aan lahayn maamul xor ah laakiin useless culusoow baa nagu cayaarey markuu maamulka badalay asagoo gobolka ka helay taageero maadama uu ka dhasgtey

Itoobiya waxay is safatey ahlusuna magaaladiina gacantay ka baxdey labo sano kadib


Maria hadaad isleedahay HG baa dagaal toos ah hiiraan ku qabsan karta sxb matabaan baan ku jabinay dagaal maalin iyo habeen socdey

Jowhar sadex sano baan ka talinay ayadoo abgaal iyo gaaljecel buuxaan

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... jhFU8y9-FA

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 0hxnWTTTIA


Ciidankeena xamar lagama qaadin...waxaan haysaney waabari iyo madiina...waxaan ka soo baxnay, afisyoone, dekeda iyo airportka oo isku uruursanay madoobe meeshaha hada is dhoho nasteexo up xaafad hawadle at

Wadaan babeeynay saldhiga galbeed madiina, waxaan is wareegay abgaalkii madiina sida muusa suudi oo soo galay

http://www.statensnet.dk/pligtarkiv/fre ... 7&iarkiv=1

Anaga marabin in aan xamar u dhimano..siyaasad baan ku joognaa....abgaal baa laga qabsadey xamar

Cusmaan caatihii baa dabada anaga nala soo galay dagaalkii cakaaro waana meesha hada jufadiisa degantahay ee isku xirta jidka korantada iyo hodan...xulufaan noqonay si aan caydiid ugu jabino!

Maamulka banadir(ex golaha deegaanka)cumar xaashi baa dhisay sidii baana 4 beel uga mid nahay (xoghayaha banaadir)

gudoomiye hal degmo iyo ku xigeeno.
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What happened in Hiiraan was just one of a series of tragedies that befell Somalia.
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Afgoye is the town my dad grew up in as a kid during the early 70s, he learned af-may from the locals.
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SIRMAQABE ALLOW SAHANA: Iidoorna dhagar ma daayo, mar uushido iyo mar uu u dajiyaba, Walawayna dhegwayni kama dhamaato. Alle daa'imna Dushuu ka ka daalacanayaa. Yaa dukum daakum ku dambayn??









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Re: Beledweyne, Jowhar or Afgoye?

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Sahal stop hiding behind AMISOM tanks and fight like a man. Gaaljecel Shabab kept your clan in check walle. You can only control land when AMISOM is infront of you. You are nothing without them

You are langaab Abdi yusuf you don't even live in hiiraan you live in Gedo and lower Shabelle you are scattered like gypsies in Europe you can't name one village you live in you are a guest everywhere . don't talk about hiiraan its foreign land to you. Talk about doolow your guest home talk about the local politics there. Your brothers Cali madaxweyne has banned you from beledweyne and you come here as hiiraan analyst. You are Gedo analyst

The Somali civil war victor will be decided in hiiraan the war ends there it doesn't end in xamar or Gaalkacyo or Kismayo. The final round is in hiiraan. Tell AMISOM to go home so you can get a karbash you will never forget

Hiiraan was the most peaceful place when gugundhabe was in control. Hawadle AMISOM can't rule anything.
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Just like the Iidor massacred 950-1000 people in one week in Borama ,the hawaadle did the same.
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Sahaal80 has a bizar logic he claims that those ogaden refugees was armed and that made it okay to kill them since they were part of the war yet in the same sentence he claims the Hawaadle who was killed were innocent un-armed poor people and the Ogaden killed them just for fun..... I mean come those Hawaadle were not angels they were armed USC rebels who were thugs and armed by the Ethiopian government. The Ogaden just defended them self.
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