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Gembis is the new kid on the block.Machiavelli2 wrote:Thanks Lama, I thought that was the Jilbab and good to know it's new Somali name of Gembis.
I never heard Hagoog but married women used to wear shaash iyo garbasaar.
I saw it now. Do you want me to edit it and remove the NB part?Machiavelli2 wrote:I didn't see your response and l edited my post 6 times to tell the story of my sister in a sensitive manner. Many Somali families share similar experiences and deal with sons and daughters struggling with mental health.
Thanks.
If and when the culture does not agree with the religion, the culture is thrown out of the window! Simple as that.Lamagoodle wrote:AirBitaale wrote:Women dressed more modestly is probably one of the few positives we got from the Civil war!
Do you mean dressing in tents? imitating wahabi cloth codes?
Actually, our women dressed modestly before; the gunitiino, the alindhi, the garbasaar etc.
I have observed a misconception among older Somali women; they seem to believe that unhealthy eating habits (ie. eating food drenched in vegetable oil and generally high fat content) and living rather sedentary lives is the what is healthy. There is also the belief and desire for overweight body sizes among older Somali women and men. This unhealthy beauty standard may be one factor that contributes to the obesity issues in the Somali community.Machiavelli2 wrote:Lama
I noticed another thing. Some decades ago, Somalis, whether males or females were fit, slim and healthy compared to today. I think we will soon beat the Americans in the obesity scale. The global obesity phenomenon has caught with us Somalis. The guntino and alindi requires a body shape that is long gone. Same with the white tight t-shirt men used to wear. Janaazada ha lagu tugto.
Caliyoow, adeer; If you think the guntiino, the alindhi, the garees and the garbisaar were not modest enough, the only plausible explanation I could come up with regarding your ignorance is that you are a very young man. Most Somali women back in the old days, covered their arms and hairs once they were married.AirBitaale wrote:If and when the culture does not agree with the religion, the culture is thrown out of the window! Simple as that.Lamagoodle wrote:AirBitaale wrote:Women dressed more modestly is probably one of the few positives we got from the Civil war!
Do you mean dressing in tents? imitating wahabi cloth codes?
Actually, our women dressed modestly before; the gunitiino, the alindhi, the garbasaar etc.
So, the guntiino, which doesn't cover a woman's arms, does not fit the criteria of a modest dress.
All in all, the guntiino is a great dress and it is insanely beautiful to wear, but it is just not fit to be wore in public.
This is a sentiment I often see echoed on here. I made a thread dedicated to this topic titled "The Rise of Wahabism in Somalia". I would appreciate yours and others' input on the subject.zidane88 wrote:The following of Wahabi doctrine and its dress-code is what killed our Somali tradition and peaceful Islamic way of life.
In Islam, a woman's marriage status doesn't affect how she covers herself!Lamagoodle wrote:Caliyoow, adeer; If you think the guntiino, the alindhi, the garees and the garbisaar were not modest enough, the only plausible explanation I could come up with regarding your ignorance is that you are a very young man. Most Somali women back in the old days, covered their arms and hairs once they were married.AirBitaale wrote:If and when the culture does not agree with the religion, the culture is thrown out of the window! Simple as that.Lamagoodle wrote:
Do you mean dressing in tents? imitating wahabi cloth codes?
Actually, our women dressed modestly before; the gunitiino, the alindhi, the garbasaar etc.
So, the guntiino, which doesn't cover a woman's arms, does not fit the criteria of a modest dress.
All in all, the guntiino is a great dress and it is insanely beautiful to wear, but it is just not fit to be wore in public.
Where do people get this notion that Somalis before the onset of wahabism were naked????? This nonsense has become so pervasive in the gardhuub-wahabi discourse which claims that somalis were cawaan before.
We were muslims for centuries. Our islam was not about simple issues like dress codes (i.e. wearing tents). We have our distinctive dresses.
I like the way you selectively bolded a small part of what I wrote.AirBitaale wrote:
In Islam, a woman's marriage status doesn't affect how she covers herself!
So, we are back to Diin Vs Dhaqan. So which one is to be followed?
Caliyoow, adeer, you are making a lot of mistakes; you are assuming that the guntiino does not cover a woman's body!!! That is nonsense; a big garbasaar does the trick and most Somali women before the cult of wahabism wore guntiino/garees/alindhi with a big garbasaar.AirBitaale wrote:How about if the Suufis agree with me that a woman's arms are cawra and should be covered, thus agreeing with me that guntiino is not permissible in public?
Anyways, I don't agree with muslims been divided into so many factions. I don't agree with the guy who claims he is suufi but worships the dead, and similarly I don't agree with the one who paths with blood of fellow muslims whatever he claims!
