Do you agree with Nimco Dareen?

[AwRastaale]

Smooth,

You're now injecting a lot of none sense into the topic which are primarily your own fears and somewhat glorifying your reer as if HG has any chance against a nation of 100 mln.

I also know that not all roads lead to Mogadishu.

Somalinimo doesn't need Mogadishu. The sooner some of you understand that the better.

Somalinimo always needs a small group with common agenda and it doesn't have to be about Mogadishu or the blue flag.

Today we are seeing one such group in the Puntland mountains.

What Mogadishu does or what happens to her no longer has ripple effect.

Somalinimo is not a political club.

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Hawdian

Show me the Somalinimo that exist in the secessionist enclave, the people deporting other Somali's currently, previously not letting families with kids of scorching boats to the point they had to threaten sucide? really? these are the vanguard of Somalinimo that you are talking about? are you being serious here? if they are then there is truly no hope left.

Those P/land troops fighting their own extremist ISIS boys whom fled from HG by sea for their life is nothing, these battles are happening all over Somalia without Amisom with the worst taking place in Galmudug for over a month, were many man sacrificed their lifes

I wasn't talking about HG, I said the resurgence of Somalinimo as it currently stands can only rise from Koonfur were the belief is strongest and ingrained into the hearts of the people, to the point were Harti men are pillaging, raping and beheading people and secessionist travelling from Germany to blow up hotels, this happens no were else, counter me with facts sxb

[AwRastaale]

Somaliland is the creddle of Somalinimo. No need to question that. Every Somali tribe claims his fake ancestral father is resting in this land. The Somali language, literature, music, script (Boramawi), all have their roots in Somaliland.

But what I am highlighting is not all roads lead to Mogadishu. That's not Somalinimo. Like Jalalaadin said the Sheikh doesn't need to pray your salat for you. You just need to put your sijad next to him or behind him if he is good leader/role model.

Right now Mogadishu is rather happy under Bantus.

No need to put our sijad next to her or behind her.

The Somaliland case against IDP mainly from the south is Somalinimo. It is very very Somalinimo but you don't see that because the Bantu soldier told you otherwise.

When we return Yalaxow to his land, that means he lives on his land and is not vacant land that a Bantu or Habashi can take over.

if all Wanlawein vacate their lands and AMISOM breeds with the last few remaining xalimos in the south, then Somali demographics will change.

So we are actually reinforcing the Somali defence line by sending back Somali genes to the front line.

This is the same reason I chose to be Hawdian than Lander. Wayo hadan Hargeysa iska seexdo like some Idoor, then Habashi kid will put his tent in Hawd.


Don't take it personal it's just strategy policy. And its long term vision is to keep Somalis on Somali soil than awrka ina gees laga raaro.

The Waqooyis are working for the interest of Somalis even when they don't look like it but what the foc you doing? That's right displacing them. If you didn't displace them, I wouldn't have to return them. You started. And now you want to blame me too. Unbelievable Wanlaweins!

No need for Xamar. Somalinimo is not tied to Xamar or whatever happens there. Fact.

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Hawdian

Again I was talking about Koonfur and for some reason you seem to equate that to HG or Xamar, let's no waste time over useless tit for tat because the hotels, restaurants and air-plane bombers are all landers in Xamar and these are facts not circumstantial BS, so are the top echelon of al-shabab leadership

Similarly those ISIS Majerteen boys that fled Xarardheere after vicious battles with HG and have decided to go back home but miraculously sparing their people the pillaging, beheading and rape they inflicted upon reer Koonfur routinely for a decade.

Or shall we discuss how Godane Jihad was only in the South sparing you guys as you openly admitted to several times on here just as that lander dude that flew all the way from Germany to blow up Jazeera hotel in Xamar spared the Hotels in Hargaisa ?

I haven't seen a single wanlaweyne blowing up you beach resorts, restaurants, hotels, air planes yet you are deporting poor reer koonfur, the idea it's a strategy is laughable, Benadir has a higher population count then the whole of Somaliland and there are a lot of Landers living there.

If you want an honest debate about Somalinimo resurgence without these cheapshots which actually hurt you far more if I descend to your level, I am all for it!

Start of by explaining to me exactly how a resurgence of Somalinimo can come from a place were hatred for other somali's is preached, were poor mothers fleeing war in Yemen are left on scorching ships while landers and Non Somali's are unloaded.

Explain to me the Somalinimo we can find in a place were holding Somalia passport is looked upon as utter disdain, while it's fine to carry the Xabashi and Western passports, a place were your musicians can go to Jijiga, Aids-Ababa, Nairobi to make their living but are jailed upon returning from Mogadishu,

Please explain to me how a resurgence can come from such a place, because to me it's more likely to come from P/land then it ever coming from S/land, enlighten me without useless tit for tat because your going to loose heavily in that.

[AwRastaale]

I think your usual voices spoke to you because I never once mentioned HG in the last reply. Find it and quote me.

Thanks.

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glorifying your reer as if HG has any chance against a nation of 100 mln.
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That was your previous post you forgot,I didn't discuss HG, can you please answer my questions above, I am curious to hear you case for resurgence of somalinimo in Somaliland

[smooth]

I have no idea about your recent inherit fascination about mental health issues

were you a low level KGB spy back during afweyne era?because these sort of recurring accusations are text book ?

Or did you meet too many of these khaat induced psychopathic schizophrenic riddled GFs on your Marfish tours ? I am curious

[jalaaludin5]

am curious to hear you case for resurgence of somalinimo in Somaliland

Only those that honour and appreciate Somalinimo have the right to a Honest and truthful answer. You my friend, do not qualify

Weren't you the man who labelled reer sheikh Isaxaq Jews? A very offensive term amongst Somali in general that is equivalent to a jew been called a Nazi.

Is there really a group in Somalia today that can lay claim to Somalinimo?
Who's clean for the stain of the un-Somalinimo (its a word and you can Google it lol) in the horn?
Who's in charge of this phantom term (somalinimo) which evade the sights but very familiar to the eardrums?

Somalinimo is only confined to bishimaha dushooda. It's no different than one who takes comfort in listening Islamic lectures and the Glorious Quran yet never practice it.
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[AwRastaale]

^ This.

[smooth]

Only those that honour and appreciate Somalinimo have the right to a Honest and truthful answer. You my friend, do not qualify
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Sxb with all due respect you are a Djibouti Somali, you were the people that brought us 4.5, the people that announced presidency of the ignoramus Ali Mahdi while Afweyne was still in the country something unprecedented in history, the very same guy that liberated you before, you played a big part in the destruction of the republic and continue to do so.

It's not within your interest for a peaceful resurgent Somali republic, the boats or fleeing refugees never even thought about coming to you, if you were honest you would have recognised S/land, but it's against your interest, you will loose out on the 100 million you receive from Xabashi's for using your port

In fact any resurgence will make you the greatest loser, so I can understand and sympathize with your position, no hard feelings, you were never relevant in the Somalinimo topic, you simply don't have the numbers nor land, you can quote me all the millions you like but GDP after 25 years of destruction and no government you are only just a single place above a divided Somalia

You also trail in the recent happiness index as well. That's your legacy sxb since the beginning of time to the Somali republic, the best thing you have ever done for Koonfur Somalia is that Djibouti Amisom commander that exposed the Xabashi's, that's it nothing else

Leave the Somalinimo resurgence topic for the heavy weights, the guys that occupied and liberated you, you were just lucky the Afar voted against union otherwise you would have been dragged into the quagmire and become part of Isaaq Somaliland hegemony.

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^ This.

Hawdian

Your a man backed in to a corner, your way of conceding defeat is to start ululating for others, it's a shame because I was really interested to read your views on how you believe the secessionist have the best chance to lead the resurgency of Somali's.

[AwRastaale]

What's the defeat and when did the war started in your head?

How many tanks are chasing me?

[smooth]

What's the defeat and when did the war started in your head?

How many tanks are chasing me?

Hawdian

When soft power that succeeded in S/land and P/land fails force will be used to subdue the foe, your smart enough to know this, let's not derail the topic in question and get caught up with who is more of a slave, like the one being forced to bend over (koonfur) or the one that voluntary bended over decades ago (S/land P/land)

This sort of discourse is useless, I still haven't read your justification why you thing the secessionist have the best chance for the resurgence of Somalinimo, I am curious to have you take on this.

[TheblueNwhite]

Hawdian

Again I was talking about Koonfur and for some reason you seem to equate that to HG or Xamar, let's no waste time over useless tit for tat because the hotels, restaurants and air-plane bombers are all landers in Xamar and these are facts not circumstantial BS, so are the top echelon of al-shabab leadership

Similarly those ISIS Majerteen boys that fled Xarardheere after vicious battles with HG and have decided to go back home but miraculously sparing their people the pillaging, beheading and rape they inflicted upon reer Koonfur routinely for a decade.

Or shall we discuss how Godane Jihad was only in the South sparing you guys as you openly admitted to several times on here just as that lander dude that flew all the way from Germany to blow up Jazeera hotel in Xamar spared the Hotels in Hargaisa ?

I haven't seen a single wanlaweyne blowing up you beach resorts, restaurants, hotels, air planes yet you are deporting poor reer koonfur, the idea it's a strategy is laughable, Benadir has a higher population count then the whole of Somaliland and there are a lot of Landers living there.

If you want an honest debate about Somalinimo resurgence without these cheapshots which actually hurt you far more if I descend to your level, I am all for it!

Start of by explaining to me exactly how a resurgence of Somalinimo can come from a place were hatred for other somali's is preached, were poor mothers fleeing war in Yemen are left on scorching ships while landers and Non Somali's are unloaded.

Explain to me the Somalinimo we can find in a place were holding Somalia passport is looked upon as utter disdain, while it's fine to carry the Xabashi and Western passports, a place were your musicians can go to Jijiga, Aids-Ababa, Nairobi to make their living but are jailed upon returning from Mogadishu,

Please explain to me how a resurgence can come from such a place, because to me it's more likely to come from P/land then it ever coming from S/land, enlighten me without useless tit for tat because your going to loose heavily in that.

I would like to make a toast by lighting up my last Nicaraguan cigar.

[AwRastaale]

am curious to hear you case for resurgence of somalinimo in Somaliland

Only those that honour and appreciate Somalinimo have the right to a Honest and truthful answer. You my friend, do not qualify

Weren't you the man who labelled reer sheikh Isaxaq Jews? A very offensive term amongst Somali in general that is equivalent to a jew been called a Nazi.

Is there really a group in Somalia today that can lay claim to Somalinimo?
Who's clean for the stain of the un-Somalinimo (its a word and you can Google it lol) in the horn?
Who's in charge of this phantom term (somalinimo) which evade the sights but very familiar to the eardrums?

Somalinimo is only confined to bishimaha dushooda. It's no different than one who takes comfort in listening Islamic lectures and the Glorious Quran yet never practice it.
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This.