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Goodax waan u baqaa. is wrong with him. Markuu wasiirka ahaa maxuu u hadli waayay. Sahal he is just like you

Vivacious wrote:Goodax waan u baqaa. is wrong with him. Markuu wasiirka ahaa maxuu u hadli waayay. Sahal he is just like you

The old man got so grumpy when he lost his wasiir position. Sahal iyo goodax calaacal uun baa kaso haray. Everybody knows i am anti damjadiid (heck they are lucky the current president aint a ultra exremist hiirabist like me) but they can't blame their lack of isku xirnaan on damjadiid.

Yaa uu diidey iney waa hore maamul uu gaar dhistaan iyo ciidamo iyaga uun ka amarqaata? This is solely's xawaadles fault. And this is why Damjadiid is playing out reer hiiraan against eachother. Lax waliba meeshey is dhigtaa lagu gowraca.

THE_TRUTH1 wrote:[quote="sahal8

THE_TRUTH1 wrote: nothing better then modulood of Abgaal President

Brother truth don't take Mozambique too serious he is not HG wa xoolo,he comes from some minority clan that falsely claim saleeban for survival, during the gaalkacayo war he was booty clapping for dahabacayo because it was just Sacad fighting, ignore that idiot, he doesn't understand the ramifications of his actions.

Abgaal will return if not it will not be another HAG, you see I don't have problems with wadani candidates like Farmaajo but most of these guys are deep in dhabacayo pockets, they will move the capital in an instant.

your HAG leaders r greedy and stupid by not compromising and messing with an ally like hawadle, wallahi caydiid was ahead of them bc our alliance has lasted for 4 years

Out of our shared southren regions and mugadishu, we were controlling from jowhar to baladweyne alone

So let's us go to our separate ways...geedi and badiyoow would be more useful for us if there is no a non hiraab president.


Kkkkk odayaashii baadiyaha oo culusoow fadeexeyay... hada goodah case buu haystaa waa noo baarlamaanka

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five month negotiating with Xabash Ugaas is too long no one needs Xawadle Alliance is either you with HAG or not play your position or be sidelined .

p.s

Godah bare was Hassan sheikh pet for the last 4 years on leash , he got fired for incompetents Today he is calling for jihad Against FG .Godah stooge should be arrested for promoting terrorism[/quote] if hawadle decided per clan and admin, culusoow cannot put feet in hiiraan just like cabdi qasim couldnt

This needs one word from the ugaas.

You guys r begging us 24/7 to fix your house...you ask us to capture for you guriceel....galgaduud troops from xamar to there via pure hawadle land bc they cant land in dhuusamareeb...

Who the fuck r you to say theres no need for hawadle the same folks you can't fix your house without them lol.
.. who did not let you go xamar through hiiraan for 4 years from 1994 to 98 when ugaas khalif lift the embargo on you during the beledweyne clan conference?

The problem is your a thick people who will never learn from history....

Hiraan is a hawadle nickname and they r very United unlike you we can even enter alliance with dhuusamareeb against your guuleed and turn the table on you

Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house!

Culusoow is finish in 4 months let us see how guleed will survive.....I see disaster from within wallahi!

Doc kayeer warshiikh waxaad ogtahay maleh

Ninka reer muqdishodiisa misawiradii restoring hope usaarey trollada baad yahay ! What a leadership!

Why r your mudulood leaders siding with hiiraan?

Bc mudulood is not running the show in jowhar like hawadle do in baledweyne!

Goodax said he had hard time when he was the interior bc of cabdi qaasim who's lataliyaha garguurte dhanka maamulada/qabiilada

Cabdi qaasim wanted hiiraan to join galmudug and when he couldn't he said to him but it under jowhar, don't let this state be based in beledweyne! Hawadle r balaayo!

A while ago he was advising guuleed on how to deal with dhuuso mareeb peacefully but guleed is fed up and wants war now.

Garguurte clan tactics r dictated by cabdi qasim like his first two old, he didn't pick them but he picked their clan!

He wanted jowhar to join lower shabeele to empower cayr and hiiraan galmudug but bc of sharif hassan he couldn't.

Sahal

War ninyahow maxaa kugo dhacey, didn't you read my last post ?, the one you quoted is older one, there is no HAG agenda, culusow cannot even secure his home town of Ceeldheere or Mogadishu, that shows you the agenda is not clan driven or hiraab as you like to believe, it's pure Damul Jadiid filth, your not the only being screwed off, a whole project decade in the making with countless heavyweight investors for Hobyo was put on hold because of Dhagajuun

Honest truth I am happy with Ahlu Sunnah controlling Guriceel, Dhuusamareeb, I am also happy with Al-shabab being in Ceeldheere, because Damul Jadiid plan is to have a port in Mareeg and rob Hobyo like Afweyne did and Dhagajuun is a slave that's on board with it, Dhagajuun doesn't carry the weight you think he does, he is toothless and scared of his people

He hardly leaves cadaado, Saleeban Damul Jadiid have him on lock so does HSM, he shakes his boots when he comes to Gaalkacayo once in a blue moon, the only reason why we won't lynch that Damul Jadiid cunt is not to cause any fitnah, my uncle Qoje Dagaari leads the biggest army, best equipped in Galmudug which is Sacad.

I can guarantee you not a single Sacad is going to Guriceel or Dhuusamareeb, this thought has never crossed anyone's mind, we recently treated our biggest enemy the wounded Liibaan Madaxweyne in our hospital, Saleeban don't have the numbers or vehicles to fight Ahlu Sunnah, they will be crushed very quickly if they tried, all their arms are in the possession of pirates whom have been defeated by Al-shabab, they couldn't even join Gaalkacyo war, as it would leave cadaado exposed from both flanks (shabab Xarardheere and Ahlu Sunnah)

I am delighted with what's going on in Hiiraan, I want the stale mate to continue so garguurte doesn't return 2016, if he manages to appoint his puppet in hiiraan, the chances of him returning are greater, however I disagree with your clan assessment in this situation, garguurte only cares about a "YES" man and greater Damul Jadiid agenda nothing about HAG or Hiraab ideology.

If your telling me about troop movement, then they are SNA troops which HSM is sending to fight Ahlu Sunnah, nothing to do with Galmudug troops, if he actually does that, it would be a suicidal move akin to what he did to Abgaal in Wadajir, I don't think he would provoke a war so close to the election, he is not that stupid.

His time is up, but he has done his best, more positives then negatives in my opinion, the crucifixion he delivered to Butland the orchestrator's and chief architects of Fitnah will go down in history as the greatest hit ever, why? because every other Marexaan prime-minister or Abgaal president and politician before, were competing with each other on who could deepthroat that old haggard whore and appease her the best!

HSM did a beautiful thing by sending that filthy expired whore back to her barren latrines and getting her to scream and wail in lamentation on a daily basis embarrassing herself to the world, for that he will be forever be remembered and honoured, for years Abgaal were criticised for being Puntland lackeys, HSM has wiped those slurs from the face of the earth and hoodwinked that filthy cum riddled whore.

smooth wrote:Sahal

War ninyahow maxaa kugo dhacey, didn't you read my last post ?, the one you quoted is older one, there is no HAG agenda, culusow cannot even secure his home town of Ceeldheere or Mogadishu, that shows you the agenda is not clan driven or hiraab as you like to believe, it's pure Damul Jadiid filth, your not the only being screwed off, a whole project decade in the making with countless heavyweight investors for Hobyo was put on hold because of Dhagajuun

I disagree with your clan assessment in this situation, garguurte only cares about a "YES" man and greater Damul Jadiid agenda nothing about HAG or Hiraab ideology.

my friend smooth I like hou as a clever person and thanks for you patience i know how it hurts to talk shyt about one's clan

My friend you know alot of things but your sources r mostly the warlords and it's good for the civil war era

I'm different since my connections trace their roots back to the civil society and the Islamic movement so I know alot about the guy this thread is talking about, I know guleed, I know farah and how they came to know garguurte so i dont think you know them more than me

now listen to my account of their hiraabism

In the early 90s, some intellectuals have remained in mogadishu where they opened private schools and centres for peace acitivites to attract the westren NGOs....some of these guys were abdulqadir yahye and hassan sheekh....these guys were known as the CRD group

First time hassan appeared as a peace activist was in 1993 as one of the local UN staff who made peace between caydiid and cali mahdi (the oppening of khadka cagaaran)

Hassan sheekh was adopted by a hawadle professor who was the head of UNESCO in south central somalia where he worked in his office...hes called professor Hussein toxow(warqadiisa murashanimada unesco waa ku jirtaa laakin kamahadloayo macalinkiisa!)

This organization has opened to him a new world of western relations as he wasn't like abdulqadir yahye, his predecessor,

http://www.hiiraan.com/2005/aug/Yahye_memorialDC.htm
Professor tohow
http://www.efasom.org/curriculum.html#

In the west, they use for the arab countries some local intellectuals who support the peace process in the middle east as cover organizations, so, like this why they had their men in somalia to promote peace and democracy work with their security intelligences!

These men's mission was to bring somali clans together his reconciliation and there were alot of intellectual conferences held in Nairobi by the CRD on how to reach somali reconciliation....alot of professors have been invited like samtr, gandhi, hasho haji

One of the reasons saacid got the pm post was bc of his wifes westren relations, infact, the FM post was allocated for her and she was the one who brought fozia but they couldn't work together bc she was control Greek and hard to work with

Asho has alot of western awards and honors and has attended meetings with Jimmy carter

Most people think I'm against hassan sheekh bc of hiiraan lol

See this topic why i was supporting: bc of his western relations

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=329041

Aisha
UK meetings that led to the second London conference, the new deal arrangements and the partial lifting of the arms embargo
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=5797EABA

Who fucked all this? As i said to you hassan was from the CRD wing and was known to the west but by late 90s he had relations with dj for funds and farah was head of the kuwait-based African Muslim agency, guleed was his director in xamar (kinda of proberty protector as sacad)
So this group had a different agenda than the western agenda for somalia wich is changing every thing starting from banadir to galkacyo and spending all the funds on their own admins and picked pms not on the national institutions such as the security etc.

So hassan has disappointed the westerners who though he could replace abdulqadir yahye their assassinated man for mogadishu as a future president(btw he was murursade)

The west knew who was behind him, infact the US has endorsed Qatar funding his elections but they were not expecting that he would be totally overrun by dj


Now he lost the west and totally depends on farah who wants atleast to be hiirshabelle president if he wants more of his support!

This is why i became against dj and farah for using ethiopia to control somalia and make it kililka lixaad!

This is called a qabiilist by clan rafts bc farah has no deegaan in somalia....if culusoow goes farah will stay via halane his candidate for the pm post...ethiopia hasplanes of this but becoming a president and ahmed abdisalam as a pm!

Guleed is a hiraabist by clan tactics..empowers HG in banadir and stood strongly against jiilaal in marka where he went swimming!

He even pointed a cayr mayor for lafoole a wacadaan cisman deegaan!

Coastal hiraab highway...this is danger to his northern nighbours but it's good for us reer hiiraan since your shar will take that way lol we will lose money though

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Sahal

Sxb my knowledge is only Galmudug and that's the only thing I am interested in, I have minute to minute updates everything that happens there, good insight by you about the working of Damul Jadiid and how they started and evolved, I enjoyed the reading it and it makes sense to me, I don't doubt much of you what you type, just the below.

I am just challenging you on your belief HSM has Hiraabist ideology, if he really was then me Warsheekh, Abdiwahab wouldn't be opposed to him in fact I supported him for much of the time, the coastal hiraab highway plan was announced 3 years ago, not a single KM has yet been built, the whistle has been blown on that Circus and exposed by a insider in the guleed camp, I flooded the leak to every GMS website whom reported it.

The real reason why HSM wants that road built is for Mareeg port to be built that his group control and make sure Hobyo doesn't, Guled is onboard with this, this Mogadishu to Hobyo talk is just to get HG on board with the plan, with Al-shabab pretty much dominant on that whole coastal route and the sheer amount of money it will take, that plan will simply not WORK and will backfire.

This appointment of HG in Marka or empowering in Mogadishu has been happening since the dawn, HG live in lower shabelle, it's not like they don't, what I want to see from you is concrete evidence of this hiraabist ideology, because all I see so far is Hiraab suffering the most in his regime, Mogadishu security is none existent, Ceyr is threatening him after what he did to them, Guled is rolling back progress in Hobyo and STILL NO BENADIR federal state has been built.

I don't see any evidence of this hiraabist ideology please enlighten me on just that? All I see is Damul Jadiid ideology, he killed his own people in Wadajir, Harti abgaal are against him and so are much of his own people.

smooth wrote:Sahal

Sxb my knowledge is only Galmudug and that's the only thing I am interested in, I have minute to minute updates everything that happens there, good insight by you about the working of Damul Jadiid and how they started and evolved, I enjoyed the reading it and it makes sense to me, I don't doubt much of you what you type, just the below.

I am just challenging you on your belief HSM has Hiraabist ideology, if he really was then me Warsheekh, Abdiwahab wouldn't be opposed to him in fact I supported him for much of the time, the coastal hiraab highway plan was announced 3 years ago, not a single KM has yet been built, the whistle has been blown on that Circus and exposed by a insider in the guleed camp, I flooded the leak to every GMS website whom reported it.

The real reason why HSM wants that road built is for Mareeg port to be built that his group control and make sure Hobyo doesn't, Guled is onboard with this, this Mogadishu to Hobyo talk is just to get HG on board with the plan, with Al-shabab pretty much dominant on that whole coastal route and the sheer amount of money it will take, that plan will simply not WORK and will backfire.

This appointment of HG in Marka or empowering in Mogadishu has been happening since the dawn, HG live in lower shabelle, it's not like they don't, what I want to see from you is concrete evidence of this hiraabist ideology, because all I see so far is Hiraab suffering the most in his regime, Mogadishu security is none existent, Ceyr is threatening him after what he did to them, Guled is rolling back progress in Hobyo and STILL NO BENADIR federal state has been built.

I don't see any evidence of this hiraabist ideology please enlighten me on just that? All I see is Damul Jadiid ideology, he killed his own people in Wadajir, Harti abgaal are against him and so are much of his own people.

I hope you get my garbage cause my mobile autocorrect changes the words all the time and im too lazy to use my mobile tablet

As for the hobyo-mogadishu hiraab highway I know it's mudulood initiative goes back to the and of 2014 but now all the hiraab ganacsato are part of it but the govt hasnt adopted it yet bc to attract foreing companies it needs a security and garguurte keeps his money for the next elections

Abgaal need this more bc you can't drive just in the sandy cadalo-banadir road

As for garguurte, pls get my point. Im not saying hes hiraabist but some of his circles r like guleed by clan tactics

When guleed said "jokingly" hes the president of hiiraan and middle shabelle i got angery until this older politician told me that hes empowering himself with these regions as a react of his northern enemies receiving another regions support so he's sending a message

Guleed also said mudug is the center of the somali conflict and that hes afraid another war in mudug to cause a new civil war!!

So the man has clan tactics! What will garguurte get from this in return? Keeping certain regions in perpetual conflict with eachother rather than with mogadishu!

Another example is his position from a conflict between two southren regions wich was neutral!!.

Their case has gone to the parliament and addis ababa!

It was sorted out by adding 10 members...

So garguurte is just an opportunist who cares only about his seat!

Uses galmudug as a planB as we have seen in its position from 4.5 during the kismayo conference

Southwest as ally, blackmails JL via multipale stakeholders

Now let us talk about hiiraan, jowhar and banadir

Once it was asked garguurte in a non public meeting whether he was able to prevent lower shabelle from joining baydhabo as per cabdi qasim advise and he said yes but he can't trust HAG politicians while sharif hassan controls his clan and can help him at any motion!!

So hes against any native HAG initiative for any region unlike of baydhabo and kismayo as he sees a threat to him specially his subclan who r known for their political alliances

Once comes to hiiraan he would prefer jowhar since he has more control in there and hiiraan is closer to ethiopia, is more organized politically as per abdi qadims advise

This means putting us under the hiraab hegemony and who will lead it will depend on dj

Farah and guuleed/hiraab interests contradict each other....when garguurte became president, they divided the cake between themselves...Farah was allocated for the foreign aid and relations as state minister of presidential affairs where he built relations with qatar, turkey and morsi of egypt and he secured budgetary support to the govt from these countries but in order to break the local political stalemate wich guleed couldn't like the JL file he moved to the interior file as the constitution minister....Guleed was moved to the security...why guleed was anti-recognizing madobe? Per abdi qasim advise unless he was appointed as a governor! JL as three region is negotiable!....alot of hard conditions

What has farah done? As ethiopian stooge he moved the file from Nairobi to addis abba....this has alot of political meanings not just kenya but also nairobe being the seat of the spoilers and anti-govt groups who had influence on madobe while ethiopia denied them from entry during this process except those who got agreed by both sides

For example current pm who was part of that process and was promised for ambassadorial post in exchange of facilitating the process and their relations have started in there

Now we see ethiopia managing kismayo, baydhabo and farah wants the same for baledweyne instead of djibouti where he becomes the president as "reer hiiraan"!!

He would enter alliance with gugundhabe specially the jijeele who r scattered more in bakool and ethiopia and have liyu police where his subclan manage it under ileey...he scares more jowhar bc he thinks he would be an allien in there so he prefers the seat to be close to ethiopia

Here he clashed with guleed/qasim hiraab strategy who told him that jowhar is so passive and we will bring more "hiiraanians" than jowharians to the conference, when you get elected you can stay there just like im in cadaado until hawadle uses to it!

Kkkkk what was the next? Hawadle personality is reserve iyo dad afgaaban until you commit wrongs on them they would go crazy!...they r not like ahlu qaylo like reer mudug or sleepy like reer jowhar just cautious and one there is a danger they would unite as one person

So now garguurte has told his friend it's impossible let us keep the things in jowhar but pick one of them to prevent another admin in beledweyne from occuring just like dhuusamareeb and my elections kkkkk

We r playing the same game with them...we may send double of their "hiiraanian" elders agreed secretly by the ugaas as the only condition and declare a reconciliation conference at the same time where the ugaas is officially mucaarad and if a non hawadle was elected in jowhar we will declare an elected admin!!