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Re: Xamar Hawiye ba iska leh

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smooth wrote:
GAMES wrote:Smart people know Mogadishu belongs to all Somalis. LooL there like 8 people in that meeting saying Mogadishu belongs to us.
The city belongs to all the reer xamar tribes and HAG, they are the true natives not to all Somali's, you falling into the very same trap we fell into many times before and we never learn, if you know the story of Keenadid as told for generations by the elders living in Hobyo, he was welcomed into Hobyo as a foreigner that was fleeing persecution from his own people.

After assimilating well, he went on a voyage and came back with 1000 Arab Muskuteers and heavy Italian's weapons and took over the fort in Hobyo using foreign muscles as per MJ tradition while Italian's kept supplying him, WHY ? because he SAW IT AS HIS CITY even tough he was a guest

it was a Somalinimo gesture that backfired on us spectacular, why you may ask? these people do not know Somalinimo but only Qabyaalad, they are the only people to deport Somali's and shamefully come on the media to broadcast it, were else did you see this happen?

They are migrating to Mogadishu in there masses, seriously you will be amazed to see how many of them are there when you go, I was horrified myself, but your arse will be deported in their cities, they want to keep their own stuff and share what's your's, they all receive their own AID and have been for decades, but they want a piece of yours.

Ask me man I have been to their cities bro, the qabyaalad that goes on there you won't find anywhere else, this forum is a perfect example what you will see there, who the fu** has a plain caricature as symbol?

Recently they have come out saying the NEW BENADIR administration that will be created should be 4.5 among all Somali Clan's, look at the nerve they have, despite the fact you are the overwhelming majority, they are like the Heyna's that want to SHARE with you and keep THEIR's to themselves, until they SHARE what their towns and cities which they are deporting people from, Xamar Belongs to you SXB!
True, Hamar has always been Barawani Hawiye city, but it has also welcomed Somalis from every State. Thats what makes the city unique, because of its diversity.

3 million people call Banadir home...even foreigners from outside of Somalia.
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Xamar is Mudulood city.

It is no longer a Somali city with respect to Reer Xamar, the original none-Samaale owners.

They long migrated to India to get close to Bollywood and the original home of sambuusa.

Xamar is Mudulood.

The rest are there to work, observe or spoil. I don't need to reveal them. They will be on the defensive and this post will soon hit 12 pages.

Way isgarnayan.

Xamar founded by Berbera native saw many phases including Arab conquest, Portuguese invasion, Reer Xamar rise, Italian mega construction, Darood leadership, Mudulood immigration, HG invasion, total collapse, fake Jihad, Ethiopian occupation, Turkish and Bantu occupation and Abgaal showing signs of consolidating power but will they breed with the Bantus even more?

Mogadishu is already 20% Bantu.
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AwRastaale wrote:Xamar is Mudulood city.

It is no longer a Somali city with respect to Reer Xamar, the original none-Samaale owners.

They long migrated to India to get close to Bollywood and the original home of sambuusa.

Xamar is Mudulood.

The rest are there to work, observe or spoil. I don't need to reveal them. They will be on the defensive and this post will soon hit 12 pages.

Way isgarnayan.

Xamar founded by Berbera native saw many phases including Arab conquest, Portuguese invasion, Reer Xamar rise, Italian mega construction, Darood leadership, Mudulood immigration, HG invasion, total collapse, fake Jihad, Ethiopian occupation, Turkish and Bantu occupation and Abgaal showing signs of consolidating power but will they breed with the Bantus even more?

Mogadishu is already 20% Bantu.
Great response AwRasta,
The Muqdisho I remember and grew up had more to offer than Xaad and Axmed Diiriye who are from Ceel Buur and Cadaado respectively. Trust me, the Dir clans from Shabeelada Hoose or Daarood clans from Bakool are closer to Muqdisho ownership than these thugs.
The only thing I have always agreed with my Dhabayaco cousins is to move the capital of Somalia to neutral zone... :up: :up:
These people have the same IQ as the donkey they ride to fetch water...
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smooth wrote: The only places that deported Somali's are recorded in history, these are Bosaaso, Garowe, Qardho, Hargaisa, Burco, Berbera Erigavo and your very own home-town of Laascanood, no one will sink as LOW as these fucktards by doing a tit for tat, that degeneracy doesn't run in our blood, we have to much gobonimo
What would you call what Hawiye did in 1991 Xamar then, friendly encouragement to leave? :lol: :lol:
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AwRastaale wrote:Xamar is Mudulood city.

It is no longer a Somali city with respect to Reer Xamar, the original none-Samaale owners.

They long migrated to India to get close to Bollywood and the original home of sambuusa.

Xamar is Mudulood.

The rest are there to work, observe or spoil. I don't need to reveal them. They will be on the defensive and this post will soon hit 12 pages.

Way isgarnayan.

Xamar founded by Berbera native saw many phases including Arab conquest, Portuguese invasion, Reer Xamar rise, Italian mega construction, Darood leadership, Mudulood immigration, HG invasion, total collapse, fake Jihad, Ethiopian occupation, Turkish and Bantu occupation and Abgaal showing signs of consolidating power but will they breed with the Bantus even more?

Mogadishu is already 20% Bantu.
exactly. :up:
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Guhad

Your from Klika5 sxb stay out of this, if your blaming USC you were second in command and are just insulting yourself with Cumar Jees, but Afweyne moronic miscalculation to free you from slavery is the very same reason why we are in this in the first place.

Why would you rise up against the man that evicted isaaq's wrongfully from their homes so you could live in them illegally? you were part of the elite MOD group pampered with the loot of others, I can understand Isaaq and Hawiye up rising, but what is your story? do you see why your described as Doqonka Ogadeen? You couldn't even design your own Flag but got the dhabacayo to produce their own replica for you.

Not only that but Afweyne is the chief architect for this utter destruction caused to the country, my parents fleed in the early 80's after their businesses and properties were looted by Ilkayare, the fitnah and fasaad you caused to this country is unprecedented in the history of Somalia

Your are so moronic talking about capital change, wasn't Punland and Somaliland the people selling your cheap ass off to the Xabashi's for ammo's while in Dhuusamreeb 12 HG died protecting Ogadeen's when the Ethiopian's came for them ? one of them being a cousin of mine? what an utter waste of life.

What you used to be and what you stand for today beggars disbelief sxb, the fact that you would cheer-lead for those that handed you over to the Xabashi's is a sight I never thought I would see.
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AwRastaale wrote:
Xamar founded by Berbera native saw many phases including Arab conquest, Portuguese invasion, Reer Xamar rise, Italian mega construction, Darood leadership, Mudulood immigration, HG invasion
You have no grasp of history whatsoever, it's actually embarrassing looking at it. Let's put a Karbaash on you once and for all, this is simply for the HAG reading this garbage.

The below is discussing the capital of Benadir which was Merca, dating to 800 years ago, Benadir includes both shabelle

Reference
The Shaping of Somali Society: Reconstructing the History of a Pastoral People, 1600 to 1900

The first clear written reference to any Galla or Somali group is found in
the writings of the thirteenth-century Arab geographer, Ibn Sa’id. Ibn
Sa’id says that Merca, a town on the southern Somali coast near the Shebeli
River, was the ‘capital of the Hawiye country’, which consisted of more
than fifty villages (or districts or tribes)

.3 This area is today the home of the
Hawiye Somali clan-family, so there is good reason to assume that the Merca
region has been occupied continuously by the same Somali group for the
past 700 years. In fact, we can probably extend this to 800 years, for the
geographer al-Idrisi remarks that Merca was the region of the ‘Hadiye’
in the twelfth century. It is quite likely that the extant texts contain an
error, and that it should be ‘Hawiye’, as Guillain, Schleicher, and Cerulli
Merca; the ancient capital of the Hawiyya country.

Let's continue, the Ajuran that ruled 14th Century in the middle ages was also Hawiye, let's look at the hiraab imamate that succeeded from the same source
the Hiraab imamate was a powerful alliance of closely related groups who shared a common lineage under the Gurgarte clan divisions. It successfully revolted against the Ajuran empire in the 15th and 16th centuries before establishling an independent entity.

The Imamate formed a clear division of power. The alliance involved the army leaders and advisors of the Habar Gidir and Duduble, a Fiqhi/Qadi of Sheikhal, and the Imam was reserved for the Mudulood branch who is believed to have been the first born. Once established, the Imamate ruled the territories stretching from Mogadishu in the Banaadir province along the coast to as far as the port town of Hobyo in the northernmost central town.

So where did the Oromo Xabashi cross breed got the idea of Berber inhabitation from? it's simply the medieval Arabic term used to describe the people of the HORN OF AFRICA, don't believe my words for it, here is the reference in the book and I will quote below.

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I.M. Lewis, A modern history of Somalia: nation and state in the Horn of Africa , 2nd edition, revised, illustrated, (Westview Press: 1988), p.20

For many years, Mogadishu stood as the pre-eminent city in the بلد البربر Bilad al Barbar ("Land of the Berbers "), which was the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa .[2] [3] [4] Following his visit to the city, the 12th-century Syrian historian Yaqut al-Hamawi wrote that it was inhabited by dark-skinned Berbers, the ancestors of the modern Somalis.[5] [6]
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Guhad and Gabre very good information and excellent question.
He described Mogadishu as "an exceedingly large city" with many rich merchants, which was famous for the high quality fabric that it exported to destinations including Egypt. Batutta added that the city was ruled by a Somali Sultan, Abu Bakr ibn Sayx 'Umar, who was originally from Berbera in northern Somalia and spoke both Somali (referred to by Battuta as Mogadishan, the Benadir dialect of Somali) and Arabic with equal fluency. The Sultan also had a retinue of wazirs (ministers), legal experts, commanders, royal eunuchs, and other officials at his service.
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Xamar hawiyaa leh iyo waxay cagaha Ku jiitaan, cidii Ku haysataa ka gar daran.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:Xamar hawiyaa leh iyo waxay cagaha Ku jiitaan, cidii Ku haysataa ka gar daran.
If that is the case, then let them allow to transfer the capital city of Somalia to anywhere.. Many deserving cities such as Baraawe, Kismaayo, Garoowe, and Marka would do anything to host that title...
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Again that donkey provided no source, I literally scanned through the entire library for that quote, the only hit's are wikipedia which my sister can edit

But let's take the full Wikipedia quote which he left out
Somali Sultan, Abu Bakr ibn Sayx 'Umar,[12][13] who was originally from Berbera in northern Somalia and spoke both Somali (referred to by Battuta as Mogadishan, the Benadir dialect of Somali) and Arabic with equal fluency

So the dates are 1322-1323, Ibn Battuta visited 1331, The guy spoke a Benadiri dialect, I brought quotes talking about 800 years ago and look what the donkey brings me stuff from the Golden age, many sultanates preceded him like Abu Bakr b. Fakhr ad Din a Hiraab imame, Somali's are pastorialist that travel great distances, HG still live in Sool and Sanaag until this day.

The Jewish Sh Isaaq wasn't even in the Somali Peninsula at that time Ibn Battuta is referring to unless of course they spoke Benadiri Somali as the full quote shows, the peasant was making his way from Baghdad, hasn't even cohabited with those Xabashi concubines yet at those time periods.

You really got to try harder then that, this is so embarrassing you are basically insinuating based on the fact ONE of the Imam's in a long list of hiraab Sultans of Mogadishu is quoted on Wikipedia (no other source) to be from Berbera and speaking Benadiri accent equates to Isaaq, is actually insulting yourself, this is the definition of "gunimo"
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Absolutely disgusting.



:meles: at so called "SFG" allowing such sacandalous meeting to take place in the NATIONAL CAPITAL

What they r trying to say is that some regions want an electoral system that's based on the 18 provinces for the the parliament and the upper house (federal states members) yet they want the same 4.5 for banadir where its seats will be divided between the clans equally!!

They r saying in your dreams!

Mogadishu can seek to have its own special status and the fact that the country is federal yet 3 millions people will stay without rights but you don't need to say it's a clan capital not a national capital

Let them take the capital then!

I'm with mogadishu having local assembly and mayoral elections not an appointed admin...this will automatically represent the locals bc they r the majority without any social exclusion and political elimination of others

This admin shouldn't involve in politics and security

It must be where rule of law prevails and all somali citizens enjoy the same rights

Hatred should be banned

This could be shocking for some but that's the reality in all somalia..does the SFG control any non mogadishu business?

http://www.balcad.com/view.php?id=138

https://youtu.be/XCLIac58fGw
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Sahal

Eebow don't let mucaardnimo for HSM let you reach that state, you and I both know what brought us to the state we are in today, its the fact that we don't practice qabyaalad which is practised everywhere else. Unlike Garowe and Hargaisa, Xamar has no history of deporting Somali's for Qabiil reasons, there are a lot of Xawaadle that live there that agree with my sentiments.

It's the most cosmopolitan city in Somalia despite wide scale utter destruction, people still flock to it regardless, your capital change rhetoric is driven by your hatred and Siyasad xumo of Garguurto which I agree upon, don't let it cloud your vision sxb, Baidoa is controlled by Xabashi's since the 90's, it's inhabitants are more pro Xabashi then dahabacyo and iidoor combined, be careful what you wish for sxb.
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if someone says zoomalia capital it's only for hutus that's the most tribilist shitt I ever heard because there is million bantus there.
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