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Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:05 pm
by Lancer
Nice, they should be welcomed with open arms
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:11 pm
by HooBariiska
zumaale wrote:Lancer wrote:zumaale wrote:This is a Mirifle paper administration and is a response to the Bakool Sare paper administration proclaimed in Konfuur Galbeed State. The President is Macalinweyne and might belong to the Cabdalla Sacad branch within the Macalinweyne confederation.
Cabdalla Sacad Muuse?
Yep bro, there are probably more
Cabdalla Sacads amongst the Macaalinweyne than there are in the North. Macaalinweyne is a huge clan.
If you do not believe me, check with the elder Isaaq statesmen on Snet that are well versed in Qabyalad.
You also have a lot of Arab in the Hadamo Mirifle, Likse subclan.
In both the Macalinweyne and Hadamo, you also large number of OG's. Galjeecel are also found in the Hadamo group.
Trust me bro, the Raxanweyn that people take the piss out of here are a confederation of native clans that lived in the area and people who joined their confederation. What binds them is language but they all know their clan origins.
Abdullah sacad? I thought they where sacad muuse clan called that ?
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:28 pm
by zumaale
HB
Waa Cabdalla Sacad konfuur taage beri hore. Raxanweyn weey ku biiren.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:16 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Good contribution zumaale
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:26 pm
by jalaaludin5
zumaale wrote:HB
Waa Cabdalla Sacad konfuur taage beri hore. Raxanweyn weey ku biiren.
How many other isaq subclans are in koonfur? I only hear of the HA (sacad muuse).
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Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:35 pm
by Siciid85
Macalin wayn are Sacad Muse clan within Raxanwayn. Because technically Raxan wayn is confederates of clans from Isaaq, Darood, Hawiye etc...
I also believe Barsuug Arab can be found in there.
Also Ugaasyada Gaal jecel waa Cali Siciid/HY. Then perhaps you have Damal Muse who live in Mudug, Jubooyinka and Doolow.
Zumaale, bro these Isaaq kids are clueless.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:36 pm
by ramzy2277
zumaale wrote:This is a Mirifle paper administration and is a response to the Bakool Sare paper administration proclaimed in Konfuur Galbeed State. The President is Macalinweyne and might belong to the Cabdalla Sacad branch within the Macalinweyne confederation.
This is strange..!, first time to read there are sizeable SM subclans in konfur..!, i used to heard but never thought its true that during the kacan era ,afweyen and in attempt to break the geeljire life style , mobilized reer miyi from north and settled them in Agricultural areas in konfur, never thought SM are among those mobilized nomads.
by the way Zumaale, is there Adaraxman Sacad Muse branch as well there, as far as i know adaraxman and abdalah sacad alway live together and i think they formed alliance bah sacad or something, i am not expert in qabiil stuff though.
i know there is a sizeable community of adaraxman iyo abdalah sacad in kenya,there is a city they both live in since the colonial days. i forgot the name of that degaan now.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:55 pm
by ramzy2277
Got the name now, its call kajiado county 80 KM south of Nairobi.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:11 am
by Thuganomics
[quote="Siciid85"]Macalin wayn are Sacad Muse clan within Raxanwayn. Because technically Raxan wayn is confederates of clans from Isaaq, Darood, Hawiye etc...
I also believe Barsuug Arab can be found in there.
Also Ugaasyada Gaal jecel waa Cali Siciid/HY. Then perhaps you have Damal Muse who live in Mudug, Jubooyinka and Doolow.
Zumaale, bro these Isaaq kids are clueless.[/quote]
I thought Abdulla Sacad living in Jubooyinka was common knowledge.I knew about Abdullah Sacad in koonfur and I also knew about Damal Muse in Puntland and Barsuq in Ethiopia.Laakiin first time I'm hearing about Barsuq within Rahanwayn and Cali Siciid been the Sultans of gaal Jecel
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:40 am
by JSL3000
ramzy2277 wrote:zumaale wrote:This is a Mirifle paper administration and is a response to the Bakool Sare paper administration proclaimed in Konfuur Galbeed State. The President is Macalinweyne and might belong to the Cabdalla Sacad branch within the Macalinweyne confederation.
This is strange..!, first time to read there are sizeable SM subclans in konfur..!, i used to heard but never thought its true that during the kacan era ,afweyen and in attempt to break the geeljire life style , mobilized reer miyi from north and settled them in Agricultural areas in konfur,
never thought SM are among those mobilized nomads.
by the way Zumaale, is there Adaraxman Sacad Muse branch as well there, as far as i know adaraxman and abdalah sacad alway live together and i think they formed alliance bah sacad or something, i am not expert in qabiil stuff though.
i know there is a sizeable community of adaraxman iyo abdalah sacad in kenya,there is a city they both live in since the colonial days. i forgot the name of that degaan now.
I think it's called baha muuse.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:49 am
by ramzy2277
live and learn indeed. all these isxaaqi subclans in konfur and central of somalia, i never thought isxaaqis live out of their comfort zone.
we need a fact finding mission to find out if those isxaaqis still exist.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:50 am
by ramzy2277
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:ramzy2277 wrote:zumaale wrote:This is a Mirifle paper administration and is a response to the Bakool Sare paper administration proclaimed in Konfuur Galbeed State. The President is Macalinweyne and might belong to the Cabdalla Sacad branch within the Macalinweyne confederation.
This is strange..!, first time to read there are sizeable SM subclans in konfur..!, i used to heard but never thought its true that during the kacan era ,afweyen and in attempt to break the geeljire life style , mobilized reer miyi from north and settled them in Agricultural areas in konfur,
never thought SM are among those mobilized nomads.
by the way Zumaale, is there Adaraxman Sacad Muse branch as well there, as far as i know adaraxman and abdalah sacad alway live together and i think they formed alliance bah sacad or something, i am not expert in qabiil stuff though.
i know there is a sizeable community of adaraxman iyo abdalah sacad in kenya,there is a city they both live in since the colonial days. i forgot the name of that degaan now.
I think it's called baha muuse.
Guban....u r right, its baha muusa..thx for correcting me...
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:20 am
by JSL3000
cadirahman sacad and cabdallah sacad is the coolest.
yes, there is a lot Isaaq mixture in the rahaweyn and dir communities in the koonfureed a connection we never took advantage of.
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:33 am
by Siciid85
Well during the SNM wars, Siyad Barre armed the pro regime Raxanwayn against Macalin Wayne. They were rooted out and driven from their homes. Then they sent plea for help to diaspora Isaaqs specially those in the middle East; they got money and weapons of support and they were able to recapture and get on the offense against darood Raxanwayn.
Traditionally the Macalin wayne aren't violent people but very religious as you might guess from their name. They went to Koonfur to teach religion hence they were given the name "Macalinwayne".
Re: Jubba-ganaane state oo Taakulaynaya abaarta Somaliland
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:39 am
by Siciid85
ramzy2277 wrote:live and learn indeed. all these isxaaqi subclans in konfur and central of somalia, i never thought isxaaqis live out of their comfort zone.
we need a fact finding mission to find out if those isxaaqis still exist.
There are Isaaqs in every country in this planet. There are Isaaqs with business across Africa like Zambia, Mozambique, Congo, Uganda, Tanzania, Isiolo Kenya. There are Isaaqs in every gobol of Somalia today.
Sure our traditional home land is Somaliland but we aren't confined to just it. We are very adventurous group.
Today, there are arguably as many Isaaq business in Mogadishu, Bosaaso Then Somaliland itself.